Oilers At Blues Open Thread

I hate early games

supposedly something like justintv da_blues is one site.

tommorrow we could have an old style radio thread. sometimes i watch the game and listen to kerber and i don’t get what he’s making up. think of the jokes and possibilities.

justin.tv/da_blues or atdhe.net according to some guy on stltoday.com

http://www.myp2p.eu/

The atdhe.net stream is working nicely for me…

I don’t know what’s going on for you guys, but I’m watching the Oilers feed on Center Ice.

IceBerg’s playing!

How stupid can you be. That’s a penalty every time BJ.

Hehe… Backes really wanted to fight there…

Boyes is awesome.

Easy goal for Boyes. Perron with the magic hands.

Wow. Iam shopping. Score and time updates would be helpful.

And I love Boyes.

berrrrrrrrrrrrrg

IceBerg!!!

I’m trying to watch the atdhe.net feed and type at the same time… just saw Roloson rob Boyes. Nice pass by Big Wallet…

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OK, it’s working. Good shot, Maynard…

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Make that, “good shit, Maynard.”

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ATDHE is working like a charm for me. I’m constantly amazed at the reach of the interwebs/

this stream is the greatest thing ever.

Yeah … Rolo’s save was pretty good. where’d he learn that? Isn’t he supposed to suck?

Two assists for Ketchup… good deal. Nice to see IceBerg TechnoViking back on the ice, too…

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studio chick is cute …

Perron = Ketchup? Explanation?

Perron’s number is 57.

Heinz 57 is “ketchup with a kick.”

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Ah… get it.

that nickname doesnt have much of a kick

evanka osmak has some kick

Yeah, I’d play poker with Mats Sundin… not.

He looks like he could bluff your ass off.

Evanka Osmak, eh? Ah, she’s ok, but I’ll take Carrie Milbank…

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One more point for Big Wallet to crack the 1000 mark.

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As for a nickname for Perron, I prefer “Frenchy,” but that’s kind of a slur… Ketchup works. Or maybe we could call him The Nature Boy, since he’s been doing the “Whooooooo!!!” cheer from the bench in prqactice, according to Good Ol’ JR…

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How about “Flair”?

its needs to incorporate that weird eyebrow thing he did in the young stars game last year. that was weird.

…maybe not…

Who is Staios calling “gutless” for “pushing” Horcoff into a fight? Who threw down with Horcoff?

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backes. id say he was half right in that assessment

…it’s not like Horcoff is a small guy… I say good on Backes to get one of their skilled guys out for five minutes.

id agree with you there. its like whenever jannsen fights one of the other teams defensemen, always a good deal in terms of player for player.

Good on Woywitka for throwing down with the ex-Blue Staios.

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Damn… they’re trying to get that 1000th point for Big Wallet. I like Steen in between Tkachuk and Boiyes.

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there was some good chem with steen and walt …

iceBerg took a little abuse there in the crease

In system news…

Two goals for Philip McRae last night in London’s 6-3 loss to Owen Sound. McRae has moved into London’s scoring lead despite missing the first six games of the season with mono.

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ooo McD’s is doing Hockey trading ca …. OH … Dammit!

PP for STL !!!!

Steen is on the first PP unit …

Elsewhere in the OHL…

2008 draft pick Anthony Nigro was traded to Ottaw from Guelph in the past week; Nigro picked up a goal and an assist last night as the 67’s lost to Oshawa by a 5-4 score.

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damn,… 0/2 on the PP

BOOOOO Edm TV is showing the Manny Legace slip on the Palin carpet.

I’d put money on our “kid line” is younger than their “kid line”

Wooo… what a hit… haha….

major hit by Backes on Visnovsky … clean hit,me thinks

Head first into the boards. That looked like it hurt.

Yep, clean hit, but Visnovsky went head-first into the boards. game stopped. He’s sitting up.

Jesus, listen to these homers whine and bitch about Backes…

Go ahead and send your goon after Backes, McTavish… I’m thinking he can handle it.

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Edm announcers really has it in for Backes…

Now what’s Shelly pissing and moaning to the zebras about?

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an EDM player wanted to scrap after that hit, Cam wanted to oblige, but the zebras wanted to attend to Lubomir … so, each off with 2 min unsportsmanlike minors, and the EDM gets an additional 10 min misconduct.

Sup, guys? I fuckin fell asleep on the couch, did u guys say Ice got the second one? I do like flair, Marcus.

Fan ta edmonton, 2day, damn & cogs!

Scheiss…

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Ah, damn… that was a pretty nice goal… too bad it was for the wrong team.

damn, EDM scores on the 4 on 4 … Cogliano?

Gotta go, guys. I might be back later.

that was Brewer’s fault the fucking putz

Blues are going on the PK …. big kill here.

Man, the way these guys were kissing Nilsson’s ass for that pass, you’d think he was the second coming of Bobby fuckin’ Orr.

He made a backhand pass. Wow. They teach you that in Squirts…

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If #57 has two helpers already, does that mean he’s, “Stylin’ and profilin’,” today?

i dunno aboot you guys, but if my beer glowed in the dark, i wouldn’t drink it.

I had the Squirts once…. didn’t learn anything about passing pucks though …

EDM slashes, PK done.

Ronda Mongue of Placenta, Saskatchewan??? :-D

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Blues on the shortened PP

Woywitka shouda shot that!

Man, the holding calls in this league any more are weak… fuck.

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damn, yet another penalty. all of these overlapping penalties. And Souray scores to tie it up

How does Edmonton still have the PP?

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How is a 1 goal lead a nail in our coffin?

Were the teams not at 5-on-5 when Boyes went into the box to feel shame?

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who was the EDM player that made an ass of himself by overplaying and missing on the empty net a couple of years ago? Was that Horcoff?

Eat shit and bark at the moon, Souray, ya ass pirate…

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no, we were on a series of overlapping penalties. we went about 6 minutes of not-5-on-5 hockey.

This guys a D-B, earlier it showed Boyes go into the box, then he says, “Well, I think we’ll see Boyes head into the box, here.” – No shit, I think we’ll see the boys head to the locker rooms between periods!

is that similar to eating bark and shitting at the moon?

NB—- this must be Canada’s answer to John Madden – stating the obvious

EDM tv is doing a feature on Brad Boyes… neat

Good call, Tim. Please dont give ’em a pen!

Household Handyman tips with BB …. LOL

Didn’t FSN run that same feature on Boyes?

…. and we’re back

Son of a bitch…

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… and we’re down!

….. and EDM scores in the first few seconds of the 3rd

::sigh:: what happened to our boys?

Wow a lot of notes, not clearing the crease there, eh?

whoa … Walt worked hard for that scoring opportunity …

fuckbeans … another EDM goal … Whore-Coff

OK, what the hell…

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Where’s the D?

how can i register for these prizes?

What kind of rinky-dink hoosier bullshit is this giving prizes away every time Edmonton scores a goal?

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Why don’t we get prizes for watchin?

Memo to Karl: let’s not play Blur’s Song 2 when the OTHER team has taken a 2-goal lead…

It’s all housewives isn’t it?

Where’s “Ice” Berg in the 3rd?

Jansen looking to light a fire with a fight?

Rolo save’s EDM’s bacon on a 4 on 2

i just had about 3 consecutive heart attacks ..

McKee was just Flyin’!

is there no feed like this for the ATL game tomorrow?

Well… fastest i’ve ever seen him move, anyway.

Wait, what is the score and time left? The mall sucks.

I don’t think so, I saw somewhere it’s not on in atl, either.

4-2 edm … 12:30 LEFT IN THE 3RD

Gosh i miss having 3 scoring lines.

davy is still playing hard.

Yup, kid’s awesome.

Fuckin’ robot!

… I don’t see the hook.

his stick was up, but the backside of the blade just trickled down the back of the EDM player’s legs …

Peachy… another penalty kill. Thanks, Brewer.

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a shorty would be awfully handy right about now ….

nice play by Jax … good O pressure

I know, right? Where’d that come from?

Jax & Polak have each thrown a good hip around our blue line that I’ve seen.

good E from Iceberg

Good work by IceBerg and Backes on that shift.

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He was shooken up…

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manny to the bench at the 2 minute mark

Damn… that was close.

I’ve always liked Cole, but I’m glad he didn’t get that one.

Come on, boys…

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manny might have wanted to go to the bench sometime in the second period before he started sucking it up. another game spoiled by shit goaltending.

Come on, Big Wallet…

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Fan ta Roloson…

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That’s all, folks…

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fucking horrible. 2 goal lead at home after one period and you find yourself down 4-2 in the third. i know injuries but since most of these fucks can’t score maybe they could stop the other team. sorry i’m just pissed an tried of losing. especially when we are the better team if with this team.

dammit …. why did I watch this again?

Well, at least I don’t have to listen to Louis DeBrusk kiss Oiler ass any more this afternoon…

Screw it, I’m goin’ to Fast Eddie’s in Alton as soon as Mrs. GTPD come home from work at 5:00… anyone up for some cheap shrimp and burgers?

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You’re right, Weeds. He saw everything. That third goal, I’d blame on the lame ass d.

Me & my Old Lady are doin’ left overs. You guys be here tomorrow for the radio broadcast?

NB, I’m Weeds… he’s Chris D.

I agree, though… Manny hasn’t been sharp. Mason and Chris Holt are the only goalies in the organ-I-zation playing worth a drizzlin’ shit right now.

Well, and Jake Allen too, of course, but he’s out of the picture.

Shoot, even Paul Karpowich has come back down to earth somewhat since his hot start for Clarkson. His personal numbers are still OK for a freshman, but he’s lost like four or five starts in a row…

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Oh, I’ll be here… I’m a radio guy anyway, and the Blues are about due for a decent game. Maybe if we can’t see it, it’ll happen.

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Can’t stay too long at Fast Eddies, thiugh… gotta be home to hear at least some of the webcast of the Peoria-Rockford rematch tonight, live from the Big Orange Box in beautiful (?) downtown Rockford, Illinois..

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I was talking about you b-dub, the rolosen comment, he saw everything through the last 2 periods, I’m a slow @ typing & been bouncing around the webs.

notes from section 102 part 4.
yuck.

a) brewer can kiss the devil’s procreational wand for all i care. he is brutal. for every good defensive play he makes (which is lesss than mckee makes) he makes zero good offensive plays and 3 bad plays in all zones. fuck him and his 4 plus million dolar contract. im done with him. sadly the blues are not.

b) for the razzing i gave peron last section 102 update, he was easily. EASILY the blues best player. he used his mates, palyed the occasionally defense, and made the occasionaly good solo move.

c) drA-cola i’m liking. not that he was great or won us the game, but he IS what we need. cola was behind the oilers net at least 3 times, something a blues defenseman probaly hasnt done since his number-mate duchense.

d) steen. he got mnutes. he got improtant minutes. i have nothing to say about him either way. perhaps a bad thing.

c) legacy. this is his walk year and he does THAT? yow. yea the blues sucked since the half way mark of the first period, but 20 shots equals 107 goals? not enough goalie. mckee, jackman, polish, and draCOLA play about as good as they can. royswitka was so-so, and brewer was the monkey ejaculation we have all come to know and love, if you can’t save over 85% of the shots your as done as the bird on thanksgiving.

d) peron was still as good as it gets.

e) isnt this the ref who lives next to sean?

So . . . yeah. Had to run errands this afternoon. Missed the game. Looks like it was a good thing that I did.

Somehow, Detroit is to blame for all of the above.

Can we keep the new stat, Perron Caused Offside. I understand he’s got some skill with the stick. But the dude fakes everyone out, including his teamates, and then either draws them offside by his last second slicing and dicing or throws a no look pass that no one expects.

I understand he’s young, and i understand that he’s gotta learn but fuck. He played pretty good today, he was a little lazy on the back-check but a guy with that skill can turn into something special. I hope that in 2 or 3 years this guy is the 2nd coming of jesus… and that (as he is still the 2nd coming of jesus) he resigns with the Blues.

Woywitka and Polak even seeing PP time = fail

Boyes can shoot and he can score, one thing he can’t do is pass worth a shit. He also takes lazy ass holding penalites. It seems that in close games he decides to stop moving his feet and start holding on to slow down the guy he’s chasing after.

Nope… no feed from Atlanta on Center Ice because SportSouth is cheap and/or sucks. Take your pick. The Thrashers have about 12 non-televised games in the Atlanta area for people w/o CI or tickets. It sucks – this is one of the most apathetic markets to live in EVER. Outside of Philips no one knows what’s going on. The Thrashers could win the Cup and it wouldn’t crack the front page.

Since I live in this hockey black hole, I’ll be able to see the Blues and Walt’s 1000th point in person. Here’s what you’ll be missing: a goal from the Thrash 2nd line which is better than our first, a complete and total Thrashers defensive fuck-up (probably from Schneider, who needs to RETIRE) and about 5 Blues goals on the Thrash’s AHL goalie.

We just have to storm the net and shoot high stick side, and we’re fine. Pavs is awful at blocking anything above his shoulders. He’s a good goalie and I like him way better than our overrated #1, but he shouldn’t be a problem for the Blues.

ps game time hit the screen during the “ultimate fan experience segment” (the one where some kid always picks to hang out with cam) what the kid was doing with a copy og gt i dont know but cam signed it. really really large type.

I’m not ready to freak out just yet, fellas. We just got the new guys & no doubt they’ll need some time to adjust and fit in here. They don’t look out of place on this team to me, though. I actually thought some of the guys that’ve been here were looking to have some chemistry problems out there today. “But we’ve just dropped 2 since the new guys were picked up!” Not that big of deal to me, for reasons already stated, and I think we got a little spoiled because the team of checking lines or “Riverman,” if you will, overachieved for us for a lil’ bit there. All these boys came up and were hungry, not to mention teams probably underestimated us… Not anymore, they’re ready for us. But when we get the injuries back, it’s a whole scoring line, back to three scoring & one checking line, and this time we’ll have Cola to run a PowerPlay (he’ll get there, but I feel AM doesn’t want him to get a big head by making him the man right away). Even the biggest haters on Steen in Tor said he was one the best defensive forwards in the league, and he has a hockey sense that you can always see out there, just doesn’t always have the finish. Well, even if he never develops into the stud everyone thought he’d be when he was drafted, even if he ends up being our 3rd liner, having one of the best pk/defensive o-men in the league with great sense and set-up ability, racking up 45+ points a year is part of maybe the best third line in my Blues memory. When we get healthy, if we could stay that way, I like our chances at a push. With two good goaltenders (I feel that Manny will again be Manny), with Polak helping Brew & Cola helping Fragile-Jay, and with 3 (that’s right I said 3!) scoring lines, I like this team more than another Note squad I can think of. But what’s more exciting to me is next year. If we’re out of the race in Feb, we could possibly deal said Jay at the deadline to a team that’s in it with injuries on D, and then we’ve got that money this summer on top of possibly Tkachuk’s (although I’d take him @ 1.5 on our 3rd) plus Dave said this would be a good summer to hit the market. I’m not expecting Hossa, but McD back & some well spent $ and next year could be a real, real fun time to be a puckhead in St. Louis. Although, I do think I’d like Manny back b/c I don’t want Bishop to be rushed and the fans love Legacy- he’s a great St. Louis kind of guy, he called us remember and he’s relatively cheap. I just still love what’s happening with this organ-i-zation, so I’ll just watch and cheer, for now. So WWWOOOOOO, and Let’s Go Blues!
Oh and FUCK DETROIT!

@ Gift: Nice thoughts on Kariya in today’s Game Time. Well reasoned and 100% true. Unfortunately his “stop and set up the pretty goal” has infected the entire team. (See Boyes choking away two open nets today because he did not one-time the puck). Big fish in a small pond, so everyone kisses Kariya’s overpaid ass. Nice to see you burst the blue curtain and write the truth.

@ all:

Other observations from the top of the Kiel Center (That’s right, screw the revolving corporate sponsor):

Steen has a wicked backhand. I’m sure someone on the team will tell him to stop moving around so much and to stop throwing the puck on goal hoping for a favorable rebound or grinder goal. After all, Kariya (and now an infected Boyes) do not play it that way and prefer to settle the puck near the blue line or at the edge of the blue ice and look for the picture-perfect goal. That all-out exciting style of play is not the way it is done here, so Steen’s going to have to conform to mediocrity. After all, today should have tought him that dump and chase is the way to go.

After the last few performances (especially after today’s effort) it is IMPOSSIBLE to defend Brewer any longer. His stupidity was instrumental in most if not all of the Oiler goals. I know the #1 defensive pairing is faced against the best lines, but today was asinine. Prior to the last few games I was willing to see Brewer as a stay-at-home type of defenseman, but when he actively costs goals by stupid choices and a lack of effort, I can no longer defend him against the onslaught of negativity from the group of guys one section over. I am throwing in the towel. It is tell-tale that the in-game trivia dealie today asked which current Blues defenseman was traded to the Blues on whatever date, 2005 and the choices were Brewer and three other dudes NOT named Woywitka. About 70% of the place erupted into booing. I hope JD heard it in the team box and got on the phone to somewhere looking for another stock split. Screw this guy. I’m done with him.

Another possible name for E. Coli = Caligula.

Manny is amazing. Dude plays his heart out.

Jackman is not afraid to do the things he did years ago. While the fighting may be gone or lessened, he still hits and face-washes with the best. It is good to see him doing so after he avoided contact all last season. He is a menace to opposing players and defends his keeper from a-holes looking to do damage.

Although it turned into a square dance, props to Woywitka stepping up to challenge a cheap shot on Perron. It’s good to see that someone is willing to tell some d-cheese that that crap will not be tolerated. I understand that there is fear of misconducts, but it is good to see someone risking it anyway.

Games at 1:00pm are unnatural and just plain wrong. I should not leave a game while the sun is still shining. Thank God is was very overcast at 4:00pm. It didn’t screw with my internal clock too bad.

Later all.

Oh, hey. One more… Perron has great sense on the ice. He follows his own short and gets his own rebounds. his stick blade seemingly contains a puck magnet around the opposing goal. Sure, he will fake his line-mates out of their jocks every once in a while, but you can’t deny his stick handling ability and overall ability to read the ice pretty well.

Good stuff, Milo, thanks. Weren’t we playing a more control game at the begining of the season? I know we’ve got injuries, but is it too complicated of a system for the checking guys to play one way and the skill lines to play another? The Perron line looked like they were trying to get some stuff going, but maybe need to get to know Backes better? I thought Steen looked okay today, but his partners didn’t impress me all that much (boyes goal was all Ketchup). Maybe Wallet had some good plays too, idk, the D just disappeared, though.

word Milo. Family came over during the second. Which about the time that Edmonton scored I wasn’t paying attention to the game much anymore.

So as for the first period I didn’t see anything special about Steen. I’m still really liking Cola but I’m afraid to fallin love with him as fragile Jay’s brief stints on the IR are nothing compared to the trunk o’games Cola drags around with him. BUt he’s got to get onto a power play, there is absolutely no reason for Brewer to be on the power play. You could chose fromWyowitka, Cola or Polak to fit that role.

I’m tired of hearing this McKee needs to be traded crap. At first he looked overpaid, was hurt and didn’t look as solid last season. Completely healthy Jay is a defensive stud. He has made some great plays.

We all know the one that desperately needs to go. He’s the highest paid defensemen and every season holds the dubious title of the team’s worst defender.

I have to agree about Manny looking terrible. I’ve only seen him play two Manny like games this season. Something is either not right with him or he’s just not seeing the puck in some way. That is not an excuse for poor play though.

Mason must cross the line and become the goaltender he promised to be coming into last season before he looked like a one-hit wonder. We’ve seen it a handful of times here and now he is begining to be a stud consistently. If he plays great in Atalanta he takes the starting job imo.

Brian the reason for young Blues goaltenders sucking is because Wamsley is a horrible goaltending coach. Look at his record with young goaltenders. He ruins them. If I’m the Blues it’s time to cut him off and find a good goaltending coach from the province of Quebec.

Chris D: I agree on McKee’s play, I really like his game, the problem I have is the price tag, $4 mil to block shots is just too much. I also agree on the nameless d-man you referred to, the only reason I don’t even talk about him anymore is because they gave him the “C” and by all indications there’s a club wide love affair with this guy. I was going to try and lay off him because of they made him captain, but it’s sort of rediculous at this point. If he is really just a 3 or 4 on a good club, then why’d we give him OVER $4 mil. a year? I also agree with your d-men on the powerplay statement, I think Woywitka looks very servicable & I’m huge Polak fan. These two guys show a poise with the puck on their stick that McKee, Brewer, & Jackman(until maybe yesterday) just don’t have. Mckee & Brewer look like they’re about to have panic attacks if someone passes the puck their way. Mason still makes me nervous b/c he’s been real inconsistant throughout his career so far, I think he does better with the competition of another solid goalie. I’ve wondered about “Wammer” too, but didn’t LeClaire in cbj credit him with his good play? & I know Manny’s turnaround on fitness and positioning (which hasn’t looked great as of late) he credited to him, so you maybe right there, Ijdk.