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As, unfortunately, has become tradition around the holidays in St. Louis, fans of the Blues are faced with a hard reality: every time your team wins it takes them farther away from a top draft choice and another great young player to build your team around.

It could be worse, you could be these guys. 

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Beginning back in 2005 as they came out of the lockout year, the Blues' previous owners, Bill & Money Laurie, decided to put the team and the building on 14th & Brett Hull Way up for sale. Spurned in their attempt to bring in an NBA team for freeloader Bill to have as his special new toy, the Lauries cut their losses, burned every bridge with the fans possible and got rid of the hockey team.

In so doing, they traded away franchise defenseman Chris Pronger for dimes on the dollar, didn't attempt to re-sign Pavol Demitra and gave veterans Doug Weight and Keith Tkachuk a cast of waiver-wire pickups and AHLers as their supporting cast.

That was one bleak season.

And the few fans who did stick around to follow that team started tracking the top players available in that summer's entry draft. We became familiar with players like Phil Kessel, Jordan Staal and, of course, Erik Johnson.

And quite a few of those fans started fan-tanking. For those of you who are unfamiliar with the term, Brad Lee covered it pretty well in our print edition for the Sharks game last Saturday. In his article, Brad said,

Bill Simmons over at ESPN the website a few years ago talked about how teams out of contention have been known down the stretch to often quit trying in the hopes of improving their draft status. If they can do it, then why can't fans root for their team to tank? So that's what he did with his Celtics. He rooted for them to lose every game down the stretch in 2007 so that they could be in a position to draft Kevin Durant or Greg Oden. They didn't luck out and got the fifth pick in the draft. So instead of drafting one of those two players, they made some trades and acquired Kevin Garnett and won the NBA title. So his tactic of fan tanking didn't even work and it took an imaginative and daring front office to pull things together for the team to win.

"Less rational fans can't stomach the thought of fan tanking, even when it's with the most noble intentions, because it makes them feel like traitors," Simmons wrote.

I don't think I'm less rational than most fans even though I write for an underground, fan-run paper about a below average hockey team and devote several hours to writing for the paper's website. It's not like I've got a playoff ticket jar on top of my refrigerator where I put spare change in with the hope of putting the money towards hockey tickets in April and May. If I did that, I would probably have enough money to buy a car since the Blues' last trip to the playoffs.

And yes, rooting against the Blues not only in one game but in dozens of games is being traitorous. While you root for them to lose now until April, are you doing that while wearing your Tkachuk jersey? You still going to games and doing that? How do those $10 beers taste while you root for the Red Wings? Are you even bothering to watch on TV?

I think it's noble to be a dedicated fan. Anyone who went to multiple games in 2005-06 (and judging by the attendance, there weren't many) deserves the equivalent of the Purple Heart for diehard hockey fandom. Putting up with this rebuild is going to take patience. Understanding. Gallons of hard alcohol. Something tells me that the Blues are going to have good draft picks this coming summer regardless of who I'm rooting for. And it doesn't mean I'm expecting the Blues to win every night, but there's something called hope. And hope is a good thing. Besides, I'd much rather enjoy a Blues win than reveling in a Blues loss.

Here's the point. If you don't want the Blues to win every game, why bother? There are no guarantees with prospects developing. Very few players even at the top of the draft at age 18 can be guaranteed to become superstars. Sure, either center John Tavares or defenseman Victor Hedman would be great additions to the Blues organization. At this point they seem to be the consensus top two players available in next summer's draft. You pick third and you've got the best of the rest. Still, there are no guarantees.

Granted, it's just a game. So winning and losing shouldn't matter that much. Knowing that by losing the Blues might draft a franchise cornerstone that could provide years of joy watching him play wearing the Note, it should be easier. But I just can't do it. I invest too much of myself into watching and following this hockey team. And if you've read all this so far, you might feel the same way I do.

The next night, in our Ducks issue, Duke (author of The Fantasy Files) continued on the topic:

"Fan-tanking" has been a hot topic lately, with the next Gretzky and Pronger apparently at the top two spots in the 2009 entry draft, but I'm with Brad Lee on this one: I can't do it.

If the team loses, the team loses, but I'm not going to cheer for it to happen. That's not going to stop me from rooting for the Islanders, Thrashers, and Lightnings, all behind the Blues in the standings, and therefore currently ahead of the Blues in the draft order, to pick up two points in the standings each time they take the ice.

Rooting against the Blues means rooting against David Perron, and there's not a chance in hell that I could do it. Have you ever looked into his eyes? Watching him handle the puck is like hearing the Beatles for the first time all over again.

Back in that 2005 season, when you really couldn't blame fans for rooting against the mess of a team that was being put on the ice night after night, not even I could do it. Even with visions of Johnson, Kessel or Staal suiting up for the team the next year. I actually wrote an article that year entitled, "Screw it, let's go for 26th place."

And I have to go with Brad and Duke on this year, too. Having John Tavares and his offensive skills in the lineup would be a nice consolation prize for a really shitacular season, but nothing beats a win.

This team is well on the road to a nice re-build. If not for the freakish amount of freakish accidents and injuries they've sustained this year, they'd be in the fight for a playoff spot.

That isn't going to happen this season, but you still won't catch us rooting for losses. It just doesn't work that way.

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Sorry, but I can’t root for them to lose either. Watching them lose pisses me off, no way I want them to ‘tank’ on purpose. Yeah, it’s nice to have good players on your team, and I am a huge EJ fan, having him and Berglund on our team some what eases that shit season I can’t forget about. But I don’t want to go through it again any time soon. Wasn’t much fun. Like The Cardinals, I hated The Dodgers more than The D’backs. But for The D’backs to make it to the playoffs, they had to beat The Cards. I said screw that, rooted for The Cards, and laughed when The Dodgers beat The Cubs…you get the point. And I hate The Cubs as much as I do The Red Wings. I just want them to go out there, and win. Dammit.

by tlg80 on Dec 29, 2008 2:12 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed

A prospect is just a prospect, but my enjoyment during a win and up until the next game starts is to much to root against.

Go Blues

Its a funny story actually.

by Wad on Dec 29, 2008 2:51 PM CST reply actions  

Knowing finishing near last..

means a shot at a good prospect is an ok consolation rpize for a rebuilding team.

But as a fan, I’m living in the here and now of every game. Only one team wins the Cup every year. If the one you support doesn’t have a shot at the Cup then what you want is for your team to at least be entertaining. Watching Perron, Berglund, Boyes and even BJ Crombeen play is entertaining. Watching them pull out a win is very entertaining – unexpected, but entetraining. Constant losses suck.

by Pagan on Dec 29, 2008 2:55 PM CST reply actions  

Bill Simmons is one of my favorite sportswriters in the history of ever . . .

 . . . but like most of you all, I’m not in agreement with his Fan-Tanking idea. Not to say it’s a BAD idea – I’ll give him credit where credit is due. And it is, in thought, a good idea. Then again, Communism looked good on paper. But I digress, and I’m getting off-track . . .

To root against your team for any kind of consolation prize of any sort . . . just can’t do it. Never did it with the Cardinals. Never, EVER (not even last night) did it with the Broncos. And I don’t wish the Fighting Illini or my McKendree Bearcats any ill will if they start a slide of any type. It’s not prudent and it’s not part of my DNA.

"I went to a fight the other night, and a hockey game broke out." - Rodney Dangerfield

by Donut King on Dec 29, 2008 3:23 PM CST reply actions  

The closest I can bring

Myself to “fan-tanking” is “fan ta,” as in Fan ta Detroit. Oh, and LOLOLOL about it being too fucking warm for the Winter Classic.

by Dan. on Dec 29, 2008 5:13 PM CST reply actions  

I can’t tank. losing as much as we are is depressing enough.
I love this team, I want them to win.

besides, fuck tanking. one could always trade up and still get the #1 slot by giving up something(s) in return, regardless of where they finished in the order

by Dooks on Dec 29, 2008 8:38 PM CST reply actions  

Imagine this

The Blues one loss away from having the worst record at the end of the season and the best player who ever lived is in the draft. BUT the Blues are playing Detroit in that final game.

There’s no way in hell I root for the Red Wings to beat the Blues. EVER.

by Pagan on Dec 29, 2008 9:13 PM CST reply actions  

Tanking is pretty spineless,and I am against it, however its hard to not to say theres some logic to thinking that if the blues arent going to make the playoffs they may as well REALLY not make the playoffs.

I will say this though, if it gets down to the last few games of the season and we’re at the bottom anyway and suddenly go on a winning streak, say we win our last four games to take us from drafting 4th (lottery pick) to 7th (non lottery) that would be frustrating to say the least and an absolutely classic blues move.

by bzgea2 on Dec 29, 2008 9:41 PM CST reply actions  

Fuck tanking …. that’s a bullshit bandwagon-ish move. Draft well, develop the talent, and the wins will come. Hell, Stamkos isn’t exactly lighting up the league, is he?

.... formerly "Tim" of StLouisGameTime.com

by CrossCheckRaise on Dec 29, 2008 11:08 PM CST reply actions  

In the end, it doesn’t really matter whether we root for the Blues to lose…so long as we keep buying tickets and supporting the franchise, I think we’re doing more than enough as fans.

Anyone think the ownership made the blues tank the last few weeks of a prior season to get a better pick in the past?

by Awfrick on Dec 30, 2008 12:08 AM CST reply actions  

As your Game Time Prospect Department...

…nothing gets me going quite like the idea of adding even more premium prospects to this organization.

However, and this may surprise some of you, I am 100% against the idea of tanking the season in order to get the best shot at the #1 pick overall.

The Blues have had the #1 pick overall recently, and getting into that position was possibly the worst experience of my four-decade-long history of being a Blues fan.

Besides, as CCR pointed out above, last year’s #1 overall pick isn’t exactly setting the world on fire.

There are plenty of quality talents in this draft from Tavares and Hedman on down. I’d be just as happy with a Magnus Svensson-Pääjärvi or a Brayden Schenn; happier, in fact, because if that’s who the Blues got, it would mean they didn’t necessarily finish dead friggin’ last.

B.

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-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

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by Tomorrows Blues on Dec 30, 2008 8:56 AM CST reply actions  

The thing is...

with the lottery, you’re not guaranteed the first pick, even if you do finish with the worst record…to me, the worst thing that could happen would be to tank, finish dead last, and then have Tampa or Atlanta or the Islanders end up with the first pick.

I think you always want your team to win…winning is habit forming…when an organ-i-zation gets used to success, you want to build on it…one day, I dearly hope soon, when this team gets good, I want them to have some killer instinct in them, and you start by developing that NOW, not when you are in the middle of your first playoff run.

by tbell61 on Dec 30, 2008 10:12 AM CST reply actions  

I didn't get a harumph outta that guy!

NEVER!

I admit that when the final horn sounds on another Blues loss, the thought occurs to me that they’re a little closer to another bottom-three finish. It’s a very small consolation and I remain PO’d nevertheless.

I simply cannot bring myself to cheer for their opponents [even the ones that I do not hate with all my guts]. I always suprise myself at the hate I can get on for a team we seldom play.

I’d rather vomit that say “hooray” after anyone [especially the Wings/Stars/Hawks] beats the Blues.

by briandunne on Dec 30, 2008 2:42 PM CST reply actions  


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