In Defense of Stupidity
[This article originally appeared in the Dec. 5 issue of St. Louis Game Time.]
By Sean Gallagher
When I was in the fifth or sixth grade I got in trouble on the playground. During recess, I was walking around with a couple friends when I saw one of my other buddies playing soccer. He made some mistake with the ball and I yelled out, Finnegan, you suck!"
No sooner had I said it than our shorter-than-average principal, Mr. Rood (I swear that name is true), stepped out from behind a group of kids, screaming, "Who said that? Who said that?" Looking around, I had no idea who was in trouble. Until he kept coming right at me.
"Was it you? Did you say that to Tommy Finnegan?"
I had no idea why I was in trouble for good-naturedly ribbing my buddy, but clearly I was. I admitted to saying ‘it' whatever ‘it' was exactly was and was even more shocked to be physically escorted to the principal's office.
As I sat in his office, where, admittedly, I had been before, I honestly thought to myself that this time I had done nothing wrong. Rood must have heard me wrong. At that age, I knew all the red-flag words (my dad was a bit of a connoisseur of the more flavorful words in the language and I'd heard him on the phone plenty of times) and I just assumed that he'd thought I said something different. He couldn't really, honestly be this red-faced mad over me telling my friend that he sucked eggs, could he?
I figured that since my parents were being called anyway, I'd just ride out the storm in the office and then take the time to explain myself to my parents what had happened. You know, with a more reasonable audience I could explain the obvious mix up. They'd laugh and then they'd clear everything up with Rood in the morning. What a great big laugh we'd all have!
Well, the parents weren't any more understanding. I think the exact quote was, "You do know that's a terrible thing to say, don't you?"
It wasn't until the next day, after checking the facts with some of my older friends, that I had actually said something terrible. The imagery that was explained to me by one of the older kids was pretty shocking, I remember. I had a hard time looking at Tommy Finnegan for quite a while after that.
I was reminded of this whole enlightening when I heard the Sean Avery ‘sloppy seconds' story this week. Mainly because I can imagine all of the young Canadian kids out there who are comparing notes on the playground as to what Bob McKenzie meant when he kept saying ‘slawpy seconds' on TV the night before.
But beyond that, I was surprised, much as I was 25 years ago when I was hauled into the principal's office. Had Mr. Rood not reacted so vehemently, would the incident have gotten so blown out of proportion? Would everyone in my grade (within just a few days) been prematurely introduced to the non-egg-related use of the word ‘suck'?
My guess is that if Mr. Rood had instead said, "Hey, Gallagher! No way. That's not how we talk to our friends!" It all would have been over. No scandal in the pre-junior high. No getting a bunch of youngsters to learn exactly what adults thought ‘suck' referred to, exactly. No controversy.
If Sean Avery's "it's been a common thing for guys in the NHL to fall in love with my sloppy seconds" comment, which was clearly aimed at Dion Phaneuf, had been ignored by the league, it would have gone away. Seriously, people are acting like Avery said the worst thing anyone could possibly imagine. The NHL, his own team, the media and hockey fans everywhere are in frothy outrage over the statement.
Really? Is it that offensive? For a hockey player? You know what, I hear worse than that virtually every day. On days when I'm playing hockey, I hear comments that are ten times worse than that. Have any of these people ever sat in the cheap seats at an NHL game?
The whole incident smacks of hypocrisy to me. ‘Sloppy seconds' is hardly the worst thing we've heard as hockey fans. Honestly, if Avery had borrowed a line from me back in my day at St. Patrick's Elementary and instead said, "It's become a common thing for guys in the NHL to fall in love with sucking" I would argue that he'd said worse. What's the worse imagery between the two?
But here's the other hypocrisy of this whole thing: whenever a player gives us the cliché quotes and non-emotional comments before, during or after games, both the fans and the media bitch and moan about it because, "No one ever speaks their mind, we all complain. It's like they've all been programmed to say five canned quotes and that's it."
Well, yeah, exactly. Sean Avery said something to the media in an opponent's city intended to get the fans, media and other team riled up. Mission accomplished. Isn't that what we all ask for from these players? Be interesting. Be funny. Avoid the, "we need to work hard and just go shift-by-shift, period-by-period" nonsense.
And what do we do when someone does what we ask? Suspend him indefinitely, flip our collective lids and talk about what a piece of crap the guy is.
You know what? That just sucks.
-Sean "get ready for 100% more boring interviews" Gallagher
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try saying stuff like that in the cheap seats these days, and some douchebag will whine to security… hockey ain’t what it used to be.
by pdub on Dec 6, 2008 1:16 PM CST reply actions
I hear what you’re saying. The thing is kids are smarter than that. There’s always one kid that knows the details of the words.
It’s not like he said anything near as bad as say John Rocker did when he put down minorities in New York or anything. It’s not like he’s apart of some corporation that’s coming up with ways to steal hard earned tax dollars or the use of a printing press so as to make our money cheaper…sure. Last season in the play offs he came up with one the smartest though more dangerous ways to get at a goaltender, much like sticking your hand in front a shooter’s eyes in basketball and the world came down on him. The only thing maybe he did wrong there was waving the stick high which could cause an injury to someone but other than that it was pretty good, not like he was pretending to not run the goaltender but really running the tender.
Then again it’s not the nice image of the girl in question during a moment of cunnilingus or what not; it’s the implication almost undoubtedly true(her proffesion the parts she gets the quality of her acting), that she is not a proper lady is almost not right for us men to question or put into question. I know he was aiming at the player Dion but he was also taking a shot a woman. Now if he would took at a shot at the way Dion plays or someone, or how the game is terribly officiated and is run by a bunch of rabid morons starting especially with Bettman I’d stick by him completely.
I think this game needs to be questioned. People say you should let the penalties go so the game can find a flow. Well I have a radical idea and it’s called call every single penalty and either the players will learn what not to do and/ or the owners’ will find people out there who can play the game that way. The reason a player will use his stick in a number of ways comes down to laziness. Yes even those in shape players. Yet time and time again. The new thing this year is the cross check in, behind and around the goal area. Players could put themselves in position to make a check but there’s a chance the other player might get around them so they cross check them and the refs never call it in that area.
For the whole season call each and every penalty even the most minor maybe wasn’t even a penalty and keep doing it till it is no longer an issue. The players will adapt or won’t be playing in the NHL.
This is why the NHL can not be taken seriously. Camera shots where it is beyond easy to read the lips of say Cam Janssen saying worst things. The fact that we are talking about this retarded thing instead of someone’s great play or Tkachuk scoring 1000pt.s Is fucking beyond me. The worst part is since Dallas has been miserable this season Avery and Hull are getting all the blame, nevermind Turco has mostly played like shit and their defense has been non-existent most nights or they paid out a glob of money for an unproven talent.
by Chris D. on Dec 6, 2008 1:18 PM CST reply actions
Chris D. said: "This is why the NHL can not be taken seriously. "
It’s not just the NHL. It’s NFL, NBA, MLB and every other sport that gets media coverage, as well as politics, religion, and pretty much anything else you can think of. It’s Society in general. Sorry: “US Society” in general.
As much as I agree with Gallagher’s “ignore it and it would have gone away” sentiment and the other points he made, writing an article about how the incident should have been ignored isn’t really the best way to ignore it, is it?
by Mr. Particle on Dec 6, 2008 3:18 PM CST reply actions
Mr Particle, thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of my article about hypocrisy. It’s so thick with hypocrisy in here I can barely see where I left my sloppy seconds joke.
by gallagher on Dec 6, 2008 3:39 PM CST reply actions
let me put it a different way. avery was accused (and suspended although the suspension did not suggest the exact reason havery was) of berating an nhl player that had received a recent cancer diagnosis.
this paper has gone out of its way to make sure i say absolutely nothing about larry pleau’s wife. (i had 4 top 11’s, a larry pleau’s wife joke of the day, AND had calculated the blues record when she didn’t have cancer, but tearstricen i consigned them all to the flames!! the flames that purify with there burning desire for destruction. flaaaaaammmmmmesss)
so we may not have standards, per se, but those per se’s say less than avery is l’accused to have done.
avery wason the hook BEFORE this of
1) making anti french-canadian slurs
2) making anti black slurs
3) making anti-women slurs
4) making anti-cancer victum slurs
5) yelling directly at fans who yeleed at him, and why the hell not, that chick that s in the seat next to them. its only a chick!!
and that is a fine tradtion which is almost guarenteed to get him a job with us, but at a substancial cut in his current salary.
by Childhood Trauma on Dec 6, 2008 3:56 PM CST reply actions
I really like how Chris D. said that the outrage could be stemming from a shot at Elisha. I think you’re right, if he took a shot at Dion, most fans would know why, but I (as much as I hate Avery) would’ve been ok with that or a shot at the commish (especially would’ve liked that). But she is just an ex, and if it didn’t end well (I don’t know, just saying) then this was childish and whiney. He couldve left her (& possibly Rachel Hunter) out of it and it would have been fine. It is silly and not the worst thing ever, but incredibly petty and immature. I do agree with Gallagher that I don’t always want to hear the same ‘ol same ’ol, but I don’t think this is what any of us who feel that way had in mind. On that topic, this is essentially why I feel the Manny Legace comments were blown way out of proportion. Should Manny have said that? No, but Manny’s (& not Avery’s) comments were completely out of character. He had just suffered a tough loss, just left the ice, and was clearly pissed. I think this is a more accurate example of a player not giving us the same ‘ol sound bite and fans jumped all over him. Was it his best game? No. Was he wrong, though? No. Manny has been nothing but a stand up guy and clearly had a bad moment after a bad game— not the end of the world. Plus, I’d be willing to bet Emmanuel made a real, genuine apology (to his ‘mates), and I can’t say I felt Avery’s was.
Just my $.02.
Go Blues, Fuck ’yotes, see ya downtown tonight!
by Nancy's Boy on Dec 6, 2008 3:57 PM CST reply actions
I have to say that this is the first time I’ve ever heard the term “anti-cancer victim slurs.”
by gallagher on Dec 6, 2008 4:13 PM CST reply actions
words can only hurt you if you actually value the opinion of the speaker. that being said im glad avery was suspended, not specifically for the comments but for his delivery. it had that “oh, I’m so clever, listen to what i spent all night writing and then practicing in the mirror” stilted air to it. for a guy who spent four years in LA and is known for his on ice “embelishments” youd think he’d be a better actor.
by bzgea2 on Dec 6, 2008 4:30 PM CST reply actions
Sean, you raise a bunch of good points. But you’re forgetting something that you (or one of the commenters, I didn’t read ’em) may have mentioned in the article:
Sean Avery is a complete douche.
With that said, he should’ve had an opportunity to get his head stuck in a stick guillotine in Calgary before being banished for “General Douchebaggery”.
by Donut King on Dec 6, 2008 5:47 PM CST reply actions
Avery is like a hanging chad, everybody wants to ignore till you find out th election might be rigged, then everyone wants to speculate what the hanging chad means and even what it may symbolize.
For years and years and years people have crtiticized their societies. I’ve been reading some Dos Passos lately and you know back in the 1900’s it was the same shit. Saw All the King’s Men today, the old version and it’s the same shit. The fucking media was waiting and praying for that fucking retard(who I forgot was like a John ROcker), to say something stupid and behave like a clown. Then after the press gets what they want they start chastisizing him for it. I think that was part of Sean’s point. It’s fucking sick this little game we play that a comment or statement is better the more objective it is and the press reporter pretends that they were just there reporting…but they made it happen, they know it.
Heard jackman on the radio tonight after te game and he called him an idiot. He even suggested Avery takes it above and beyond on the ice and suggested that some players cross the line with their play and sportsmanship. All I could think about is Cam Janssen. So much of the time he feels like a fucking embarassment.
Then I remember how many people I talk to who give shit little for hockey game other than to see the players fight. That a large portion of our population likes to watch staged wrestling, soap operas, and would vote for Sara fucking Palin, or kids would egg a kid on while he’s filming a suicide. And I think to myself one way it could get worst is if Bettman and Avery had a love child. That thought alone will be taking time in therapy this week. ;-)
by Chris D. on Dec 7, 2008 1:07 AM CST reply actions
Maybe Sean Avery needs a special on MTV or VH1 like Brittany Spears to attempt to prove to the world they are just a regular old himan being and not so crazy it was just the relationships ending that caused it all.
by Chris D. on Dec 7, 2008 1:09 AM CST reply actions
or seavy avery and dian phanuen can go into the real world and do “real” jobs together and we can enjoy the comedic results!
by Childhood Trauma on Dec 7, 2008 8:35 AM CST reply actions
Damn fine article Sean. If I agree or disagree is a moot point. Our game is so wonderful and rich in tradition. The differences between the “new” fans and “old” fans make this game (and watching it) so enjoyable. Yes, even those people who want to get rid of fighting and call themselves “hockey fans”. I still love this game, no matter what.
I had said it before in a previous post: If Sean Avery was to be punished, he should have been made to play Calgary that night. There’s a price to play if you want to be a real live Reggie Dunlop.
by JGB on Dec 7, 2008 9:34 AM CST reply actions
I agree with bzgea2 (what the fuck’s with that name?) If what Avery said wasn’t in the context of walking up to the cameras to make sure what he said would be televised, then maybe this wouldn’t be such a big deal. The man is a douche and that portrayal of hockey, not the off-color comment, is why he deserved to be taken down a peg. But I also agree he should he just played against Calgary and gotten his whoopin there.
by Pagan on Dec 7, 2008 10:43 AM CST reply actions
JGB I myself am not a new fan of the sport but I don’t like the way fighting occurs now a days. It’s usually pointless crap now. After every legal hit that’s hard a guy wants to drop the gloves. Or they tap each other on the shoulder because they’re rarely good enough to be capable of actually playing the sport at the NHL level. It used to be the games where brawls broke out were from emotion and battling. One thing that takes the emotion out are all of these three point games and the fact there’s no more more Campbell Conference or crazy names but strip-mall names deviod of meaning and feeling. It’s a sport, and I don’t care for people that only show up to watch people potentially suffer, unless they get hooked to the game which is hard to do with all the inconsistencies in it.
by Chris D. on Dec 7, 2008 3:30 PM CST reply actions
Hey Trauma, next time Larry Pleau makes a bad trade or free agent signing you don’t like, feel free to give his wife a hard time and make fun of her cancer. I’m sure it wouldn’t make you or the site or the paper look bad at all. It wouldn’t call into question everything we’ve ever done or drive some people away. Nope.
And in the future if you don’t like how something gets edited here on the site, feel free to drop me an e-mail We can talk it over. I’m sure Gallagher would feel the same with the paper.
by Brad Lee on Dec 7, 2008 4:09 PM CST reply actions
wow. i just this is the avery rule in action. make a joke and there is always someone who gets their feelings hurt.
thanks for the advice there brad.
in hte future if you want to take a joke personally why dont you at least see if im joking first?
just a suggestion
by Childhood Trauma on Dec 7, 2008 7:25 PM CST reply actions
wow. i GUESS this is the avery rule in action. make a joke and there is always someone who gets their feelings hurt.
thanks for the advice there brad.
in hte future if you want to take a joke personally why dont you at least see if im joking first?
just a suggestion.
see there sean making fun of cancer makes people do mean things :)
by Childhood Trauma on Dec 7, 2008 7:27 PM CST reply actions
chris d said:
“It used to be the games where brawls broke out were from emotion and battling. One thing that takes the emotion out are all of these three point games and the fact there’s no more more Campbell Conference or crazy names but strip-mall names devoid of meaning and feeling.”
That is the NHL that I miss. Prince of Wales Conference and Clarence Campbell Conference. Scott Stevens and Dave Manson throwing down at center ice on St Patrick’s Day 1991. Brett Hull OT game winners. Being able to call the other team’s goalie’s wife a lesbo…(“Hey Hanrahan!!!”)
by JGB on Dec 7, 2008 11:51 PM CST reply actions

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