Pietrangelo? Strachan? Brewer?

by DasBlues74 on Oct 21, 2009 10:01 PM CDT Comment 13 comments

Im not thinking of debating which one should be playing. The coaching staff obviously feels that Strachan provides a more sound game or chance of winning. He came up from Peoria and bypassed Pietrangelo, who again for the second season is not enjoying many opportunities to stake a claim on the roster.

More so the long term decisions that are inevitable

The questions surrounding Pietrangelo were supposed to be answered in these first few games, before a discussion would have to be made on his future team, be it in the NHL, AHL, or most likely the OHL. He has not really been given a chance this year to show a measure of consistency beyond a single game. There are mistakes made and adjustments throughout a game that are obvious, but playing seldom games means seldom opportunity to show a sound game.

Albeit this could easily be due to the play of Strachan, who has been relatively solid most of the time with a few mistakes but a few terrific plays, he always seems to be in the mix. But if this is the case why would the team just have Pietrangelo around to *a.)* not play hockey, *b.)* "gain experience". Why would he not be down in Peoria with Junland who is tearing it up, to see how he would work with a defensive partner he could create and maintain a hint of chemistry with.

Wouldn't it be more beneficial for him to spend this time playing 18-20 minutes a game and running the play? The AHL is still above the OHL.

I am not sure if he is on a 2-Way contract or not which would explain that but there are decisions to be made soon outlined below.

As stated by Andy Strickland

With the return of Jackman and Brewer where does that obviously leave Pietrangelo? How much confidence is Pietrangelo gaining by never playing and bag skating nearly everyday. Not exactly the best recipe to feel part of the team

There has even been talk about the Blues shopping DJ King around, and if Pietrangelo doesn't live up to expected potential it would be wise to trade him now while his stock is still high. I don't know how i feel about this but It could make sense, I'm excited there is talk of move because something needs to happen to send a message to this team.

What do you think about it?

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What to do with Pietrangelo What will our defense look after the Deadline Basically should he stay or go - Blues/Juniors or even another team for potential talent or picks for Jarmo?

Pietrangelo should stay, he has a high ceiling and just needs more ice time to prove it

29 votes

Strachan is more solid and Petro would benefit from playing on a minor team, and develop with increased ice time

16 votes

The Blues should shop Petro around to see what options would be available

3 votes

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I remembered he is too young for Peoria so the AHL talk is nonsense

But it is still valid as to him going to Juniors, With Cam, DJ King, Strachan, Brewer, and Jackman due to come back he is going to have to go somewhere

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by DasBlues74 on Oct 21, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

the kid is 19

let him go back to juniors and let him develop.. he cant play in the nhl and why in the hell would you try trading him.. and why rush him to try to play when we dont need him to yet

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by bleedblue2009 on Oct 21, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I agree completely - I think its all nonsense

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by DasBlues74 on Oct 21, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The kid dominates in Juniors...

Sending him back to the OHL does no real good. Being around an NHL team, working with NHL-level coaches (and that MacInnis guy) in NHL training rooms and nutritionists and physical therapists may be the best thing for him. Playing against inferior players can breed bad habits. If he wasn’t so young, then the AHL would be whre he belongs, but since that’s not an option, I don’t know what else they can do with him.

by The Goalie Guy on Oct 21, 2009 10:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

so...

you wanna keep him here and have him a healthy scratch for the whole season?

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by bleedblue2009 on Oct 22, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think that to a certain degree

It depends on what kind of learner he is. Some people learn best by listening, some by seeing, and some by doing.

If he falls into the listening or seeing category (with the addition of having better physical and strategic training) staying up with the big team might be a better idea for him. There’s also plenty of veteran wisdom that he can learn from. Additionally, sometimes the view from the booth makes it easier to see what mistakes not to make because you have a wide-angle view slows down the game and allows you to see the big picture instead of the narrow view that you sometimes get from ice-level.

But I agree, I’m sure all of that would only go so far. Heh, there’s just so much to developing a hockey player :S

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by Dan. on Oct 22, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would

Shop him see what options there are, he does have a high ceiling which means his stock is high, if theres nothing there keep him

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by DESTROYER on Oct 22, 2009 8:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't think he can go to Peoria

I think he’ll be loaned to Canada for the world juniors and then either come back or go back to Niagara.

Sitting in the press box though does him no good. I think if they’re going to play him his maximum number of games (9?) they should do it on one or two stretches to get an idea of how he adjusts.

by luvhockey on Oct 22, 2009 9:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Just play him.

Pair him with Sydor for the time being . . . if he can’t adjust with a proven veteran next to him, then I dunno.

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by Donut King on Oct 22, 2009 9:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

don't shop him

panicing on youngsters that havent delevopled is the dumbest thing. now if someone with a 27 year old stud available likes a deal with rob petri in it, jump. but this is the entire crap about “bap” drafting.

oh we will just trade em for the pieces we need, now we got a log jam of crappy d-man and young d-man not developed enough we wanna start dumping an asset?

and if we do dump petri dish for a forward, in two years when more youngsters hit the elite level, what makes you think we need the guy we traded for?

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by Childhood Trauma on Oct 22, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Honestly, there is no right way to answer this question.

Playing him would work, but personally, I think Big Ty has earned a spot in our lineup right now with his stready play, esspecially with Jackman, one of our prototypical “Defensive defensemen” out. Basically, Stratchan was to be our injury reserve if Jackman, Weaver, Sydor or Polak went down, and Alex P was the reserve if EJ or Cola went down.

It basically comes downt ot this: Don’t trade him unless someone offers a young NHL proven stud. Sending him to juniors accomplishes nothing because he has nothing left to learn there. You can’t send him to the AHL because of his age. He’s the odd man out on the current Blues roster. I say weather the storm, keep him on the roster giving him playing time once in a while, and see what happens, If it does get to the point of sending him back to Juniors, you have an offensive defensemen in Junland who’se destroying the AHL ready to go whenever you need him.

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by Novacain on Oct 22, 2009 2:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If you look where the game of hockey is going...

you need a d-man who can move the puck and get involved in the play. Other than Johnson and Brewer, who does this for the Blues? I’d like to see Petro and Junland up to shake things up a bit and give us more offensive options. Sit out Weaver and Sydor. We might lose a game but it would ignite out back line. Murray might get so pissed he explodes but at one point you have to risk something to take us to the next level.

by TeddyDaniels on Oct 22, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

give him a couple games in the NHL and see how he does.we cant say he’ll do bad if weve only seen him play like two games. if he does bad, send him to the juniors.

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by Oshie#74 on Oct 23, 2009 6:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs