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You hear me, Steve Ott? You're dead.

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Here's the footage of the Mike Richards hit on David Booth. Decide for yourself: Clean or dirty?

As for Ott's "knee on knee" on Crombeen, here you go. Wait for the replay.


 

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If anybody gets a chance...

Listen to Rick Wamsley drop the F bomb multiple times right after where that YouTube clip cuts off. Thanks to Bernie being down on the bench, we get to hear loud and clear some of the reactions of players and coaches.

I think it’s great to hear that stuff on tv… And glad to see an assistant coach get emotional like that. Now I can start using the line, “don’t make me go all rick wamsley on you”

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by -DJ- on Oct 25, 2009 6:39 AM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Haha

I was watching the game with my friend last night, and we both thought the guy we heard in the background was a fan going off on the refs, and then it cut to the view of Wamsley, tearing into the guy. We both had a good laugh!

by SouthernBlue on Oct 25, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ott is a fucking pussy....

…and a fucking scum bag to boot. HE’s out there attempting to injure players.

Just thought I’d share…. I’m sure there was plenty of that here last night.

by Rich of GASL on Oct 25, 2009 7:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

steve ott is absolute garbage.only the scum of the nhl cheapshot.i hate cheapshotters.but the thing that made me most mad is when he attacked Alex.what kind of asshole attacks a 19 year old player.my brothers 19 and if someone otts age attacked him, i would fucking kill him

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by Oshie#74 on Oct 25, 2009 8:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Brashear went after Bogosian...

… in Bogo’s first game ever last year. Some guys have no class, or think that being a cheap-shot artist is somehow useful. It’s not.

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by hildymac on Oct 25, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, and yes.

Ott is definitely a piece of crap.

As for the Richards hit on Booth, that looked like an honest mistake. It looks to me like Richards was going for shoulder-on-shoulder, and Booth dropped his right shoulder at the last second, and caught a hot one on the chin instead.

by SouthernBlue on Oct 25, 2009 8:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

owww

Poor carlo. And Oshie. Man…

THIS IS A JOKE

by loser domi on Oct 25, 2009 9:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ott is a dead mean

if someone doesnt kill that piece of shit in novemeber when we play again ill fly down to dallas and do it myself.. i cant believe there was no call on the hit on carlo and the kneeing was obviously intentional.. he knows what hes doin and he will pay the price.. our guys arent gonna forget that and theyll make him pay next game..

props to petro for goin after ott when he hit colaiacovo to.. that takes some serious balls.. and from a 19 year old kid that has played like 10 nhl games.. that was big.. hes gonna get alot of respect for that

as for the richards hit that looked pretty clean.. booth has his head down and mike came in and hit him.. it sucks that he got hurt but that one was clean

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by bleedblue2009 on Oct 25, 2009 10:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Steve Ott...

Let me take of this guys.

(cracks knuckles and simultaneously cracks neck)

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And the sun is high
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That you’re gonna die" ~ Dr. Horrible

by Carnie on Oct 25, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually

I’d rather that in November the Blues took runs at some of the other guys on the Dallas roster. I want to see Crombeen, Winchester, Janssen et al lay heavy hits on Modano, Richards, Eriksson etc. Hammer THEIR good players, let them lose their focus and watch Ott running around like a headless chicken. Then when Dallas are well and truly beaten…that’s the time to let Janssen rip that bastards head off.

I want the WHOLE Dallas team to suffer for this.

And did something happen before the game between Janssen and Woywitka?

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by drfrankentweed on Oct 25, 2009 10:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

didnt see anything

but that whole thing in the 3rd period when Janssen pushed him down.. i didnt know that was a double minor penalty.. he pushed him over that shouldnt really be a penalty to begin with.. the whole game was just bullshit.. i couldnt even wrap my head around some of the calls (petro’s 4 min roughing?, bj’s instigator?)

i love sydors comment after the game on ott: he has to play like that to be effective lol.. basically what hes sayin is he sucks if he actually tries to play hockey and not make douchebag plays

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by bleedblue2009 on Oct 25, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I wonder how DBD would think about it if it was Janssen that they were talking about with “but more importantly he was hitting almost everything in sight including a beautiful [low bridge] on [Brad Richards] that caused a huge scrum at center ice.”

Let their star players fight him for us.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 25, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uhm...

Can we possibly leave B-Rad out of this? That man went through enough last year, and he’s not a bad guy at all.

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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Oct 26, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

go back to your own message board

and then you wont have to worry about it =)

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by bleedblue2009 on Oct 26, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody have a replay of the hit on Colaiacovo?

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by Will in STL on Oct 25, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cola got low bridged that's for sure

but when you play a team with a Steve Ott type you have to know when that cheap shot is on the ice and protect yourself when he comes at you. On the other hand you’re pretty defenseless when you’re skating and you just passed the puck. Ott knew that and took advantage of the moment. therefore he needs his teeth knocked out.

Some days its just not worth chewing through the restraints

by spectr17 on Oct 25, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suspension worthy lowbridge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyogQEWMNL8

He bends down a solid three strides before contact to make sure he flipped him up. Fuck that guy.

AND a suspension worthy knee-to-knee.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Oct 25, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good clean hipcheck as the goofs over on Big D claim?

Perhaps they need to see a good clean hipcheck to know what one is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zks7jVWEFAQ

Notice that the guys getting hipchecked in that video have the puck. Anyone can low bridge a guy without the puck who’s not even in the play. That’s called a cheap shot.

/hipcheck class

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by spectr17 on Oct 25, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strickland tweeted that the injury is not considered serious and he should be fine. Has anyone seen any newspaper source to confirm this?

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by Doc Whiskey on Oct 25, 2009 12:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I haven't seen anything in print

But why would you need print confirmation. Strickland is always right on the money…right? ;)

by SouthernBlue on Oct 25, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ill take his word for it

I’m pretty sure hes actually at the rink to know these kind of things. Its not like a trade rumor he probably saw cola or someone at practice and they said he was doing alright. He speculated King had a broken hand though which I sort of want further confirmation on.

by Icion on Oct 25, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

they told strick cola before brewer. so sometime before feb coal will be bck

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by Childhood Trauma on Oct 25, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought the check on Cola was pretty legal. On the first replay you see him pick his front leg up to try to get over him or at least not take it on the leg. Neither player took any strides after the puck left Cola’s stick. Did he get a little low, maybe it was hip on thigh. But if one of our guys made this check would you consider it a good hip check? I would.

Now the one on Crombeen is a totally different story. That to me was sticking the leg out intent. I don’t think we’ll see anything come down from the league.

Do the refs get critiqued every game by the nhl ref officials? Are they required to watch clips of the games they just worked? Why is it a secret about official finings but not players/coaches? Maybe it isn’t a secret maybe there is no accountability

by luvhockey on Oct 25, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

now that ive had a chance to see replays

i think the crombeen hit will give him a suspension and the colaiacovo hit was not as bad as i thought it was initially.. but if you watch you see ott try to grab carlo’s leg as he follows through and kinda flip him off of his back which is crap.. and someone tell me when the fuck we had 6 guys on the ice during that play.. watch the play and you clearly see we have 5 guys on the ice.. idk where a 6th guy would have come from

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by bleedblue2009 on Oct 25, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you count the goalie?

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by Poor College Student on Oct 25, 2009 6:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

no

we had 5 skaters plus conklin.. and it was 5 on 5.. so i have no clue where that came from

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by bleedblue2009 on Oct 25, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok

then someone came off the bench after the play and should be suspended then.. simple as that but there was not 6 guys on the ice during the play

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by bleedblue2009 on Oct 26, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they had mentioned that

i think boyes was looking around like he wasnt sure he should get off the ice or not. tv seemed to indicate he was the guilty changer as well.

so it is an interesting position. the blues screwed up a line change during a fight. the extra player didnt get off nor did he take anyone (boyes is “2” above)

as pessimistic as i get i never understand or liked the “refs blew it” mentality. again the blues didn’t deserve a better fate, and if they don’t get their act together the blues should EXPECT to be on the wrong side of most calls.

perhaps it isnt fair, perhaps it indicates the nhl has some crappy refs, but it is what it is. the way to limit the refs negative impact on your team is to outwork the other team for 60 minutes every game.

if you don’t you give the other team a chance they haven’t earned, you give the refs a chance you know they will fumble, and you don’t give the fans a chance that they paid for.

just start showing up for every fucking shift already!!!

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by Childhood Trauma on Oct 26, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Out worked?

maybe in the second, but not in the third. we had 33Pim’s and outshot them 13-10. ( not to mention we were down 4 player by the end of the game) Imagine what that the third would have looked like if we had 5 players on the ice.

by breibird on Oct 26, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so after the blues were in a massive hole

the showed up? i was at friday games, the win, and the blues didn’t show uup for 60 in THAT either. better first than normal, sluggish second and outworked in it then a stalemate of snooze for the third

60 minutes is 60 minutes. doesnt matter to me which 20 they are taking off.. taking off the first period 5 times in a row was concerning, to be sure, but fixing it by now taking off the second is NOT a solution.

not to mention the special teams have been a vast fail in pretty much the blues 4 losses and a success in the 4 wins. pretty easy to figure out one of the things the blues need to survive.

not to mention there are so many players we can lay the blues slow start on, and half of them are the blues supposed stars, wth is boyes at? other than on the ice when he shouldnt be? backes? bergland? oshie? perron? 6 goals combined by that crew (not counting the gift empty netter) in 9 games? not acceptable.

I may not have believed the current advertising stuff about the cup is coming tomorrow, but i know damn well the team is better than what they have shown.

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by Childhood Trauma on Oct 26, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah they were . . .

. . .out worked in the 2nd, it sucks, it needs to be addressed (going into a game with your emotions unchecked is stupid and leads to a lot of crap happening on the ice, like stupid 6 man penalties when your rookie is about to get it handed to him). But they were down 2 goals and can and should have easily come back in the third. The crowd still expected to come back after being down 0-3 in the third (we have seen this team click and we are waiting for it to happen, cause we will be there when it does)
But the reality is they played well in the 3rd being on the PK for an unprecedented amount of time and having very limited resources to work with off of the bench. They did not give up on effort (until the final min mark passed then they slacked) It has been a priority with the crappy starts to get “back to the basics”, and they did that. Yeah, they still have PLENTY of room for improvement, but this was not the same team who embarrassed themselves in Pittsburgh. They had last minute change of the game plan they they had been working on. Their lines were screwed from the get go, with Osh’s surgery, and just got worse with King leaving, and then Cola leaving. I was not at practice, but Osh is typically a part of the PK and the PP, and the last min scratch couldn’t have helped.

That being said I suspect very soon, some goalies will be brought in for a “punish the goalie” practice, to build confidence because a lot of the issues I see are our scores not having confidence in their own abilities to get it in, so they try to be fancy with it, instead of putting it on net and sweeping in the rebound. Perron had this issue late last season (as did Bergs) and it was around the time of his center ice flip in (goalie error) that he started to break out of it.

by breibird on Oct 26, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

valid 6 man penalty

I was there and Boyes who was not on the ice at the start of the play (Walt, Backes, McDonald, Petro, and Colaiacovo were the original 5) was on the ice pulling someone off of Peitrangelo (but it might have been after the whistle blew, but i have photos to confirm)

it pissed me off when I saw it. . . but there were 6 guys.

by breibird on Oct 26, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could definitely see Ott getting suspended for that knee-on-knee. But that’s nothing new. Remember when he and Avery were both on Dallas? They were like the Hanson brothers, except for the likability thing.

In regard to AP getting four minutes in the scrum after the Cola hit, does anyone know where I can find video of it? I could only find the super-low hipcheck, not the aftermath.

by Manbones on Oct 25, 2009 7:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah

I don’t think the Richards-Booth hit was necessarily illegal, but it was a dickbag move where he was trying to injure a guy. It reminds me of those old Scott Stevens hits- borderline dirty, but with the intent to knock a motherfucker out.

I understand hockey’s a rough game, the intimidation factor, etc., and I love a good hard bodycheck, but just because you can legally give a guy a concussion doesn’t mean that you should try to.

My two cents.

by Manbones on Oct 25, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I pissed off enough people over at DBD about that guy whose name rhymes with "Sleeve Jot".

I’m done with it. Fuck him.

One day, David Backes and Albert Pujols will combine forces to become the most awesome piece of violent force known to man.

by Donut King on Oct 25, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m biased, but I didn’t think either Ott hit was all that horrible. The Mike Richards one was worse.

But never fear, Blues fans, you’ll probably get what you want. The Stars don’t play until Wednesday, and there’s a good chance Otter will get suspended before then.

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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Oct 26, 2009 10:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As a Stars fan,

I am going to be biased when it comes to Steve Ott. That being said…
I don’t think the first hit will get him suspended. I’m not going to say it wasn’t dirty, but from what I’ve read it’s not against the rules. It’s just looked down upon I guess. The second hit is where they should take look at it, and he will probably get suspended for that and I can’t say that I disagree.
Now there are two things I don’t understand/like that i’ve read so far about this. The first is the complaint that Colaiacovo is only 19. The guy is in the NHL. He’s going to get hit like everyone else. No matter what stupid thing Steve Ott was thinking, I doubt it was “oh look, that guy is only 19, I’m gonna take him out.” I don’t even see why that’s brought up.
The second thing is I don’t get how yall can’t understand how we could defend Ott, and say we don’t have class, but you have a guy on here that wants your guys to take runs at our other guys? I can totally understand wanting to have someone take Ott out, but wanting our other players to get hurt? Really?

/revenge class

And finally
Red Wings Suck. Now we can all be friends.

by Kent K on Oct 26, 2009 12:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Umm..

Fuck Detroit.
Blackhawks Suck.

Mary had a chicken, Tommy had a duck, lets put them on a table to see if they would ... fall off.

by DanGNR on Oct 26, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

First, if it had been Colaoacovo who rushed Ott, then awesome. . . it wasn’t it was Pietrangelo (who is the 19yr old.) Ott should have walk away, but he jumped into it like he was trying to provoke Pietrangelo. You don’t have any young Rookies (playing their 2nd game in the NHL, who are not even eligible to play AHL, but must go back to juniors if not full time NHL) so you probably do not understand. But Ott should have known better . . . Cam Janssen got a Misconduct for going after Woywitka and not really hitting him. . . Ott tried to flip Colaiacovo on his head, then stripped Pietrangelo of his helmet looking to injure him. . . yet no real punishment

by breibird on Oct 26, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My bad

Didn’t look at the roster before I posted, and I thought yall were upset because ott hit the 19 year old. So ignore my first complaint then, I cam see why yall are upset about that then. Sorry

by Kent K on Oct 26, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

im fuckin tired

of all these Stars fans on our message board…. Ott is a fuckin faggot.. when i finally saw the replay of the hit on colaiaicovo i didnt think it was as bad as seeing it in real time.. however he did go low and go for his knees and you can see his arm try to flip carlo off him but im not sure that would have gotten him suspended…… UNTIL i looked over the rulebook today because of another hit in the NHL.. Scuderi’s hit on a Columbus player (forget who it was) was exactly like this one.. and there was no penalty on either hit.. so i went to the rule book and found this:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26334

so not only should that have been a penalty, but it should have also been a game misconduct because colaiacovo was injured on the play.. and since this was a late hit and due to his history, that should warrant a suspension… the hit on crombeen should give him another game or 2.. he should probably get a good 2 or 3 games but the nhl is a pussy league and he wont get shit.. heres another video that gives my argument on the late hit on carlo even more weight

http://www.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?catid=618&id=49703

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by bleedblue2009 on Oct 26, 2009 4:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Really?

The rule says across or below the knees. And look at the replay, ott is above the knees. Doesn’t matter how little above the knees he was, he was above them. So as nice of an attempt as this was to proove your point, you failed. He’ll get suspended for the hit on Crombeen, and he deserves that. But drop this hit, he shouldn’t get one for this.
I understand why yall would complain though, I’d be upset too if my team had never won a Stanley cup in their 42 year existence.

by Kent K on Oct 26, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and i'd be full of pride

if my city could only get hockey by stealing another city’s team.

they still have that minnestosa smell to them don’t they?

don’t worry, one day they will smell like pig shit adn truly be a dallas team

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by Childhood Trauma on Oct 26, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Texas Stars?

I heard a rumor Sat. morning that Dallas is losing their team. . .
they are supposed to be moving to Austin and are going to be re-dubed the Texas Stars.

I have never met a single Texan outside of Dallas, who actually likes that city. I am hoping with the new city comes new fans, who demand integrity out of their players.

by breibird on Oct 26, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not even close

That’s the Stars new AHL affiliate. Dallas is no where close to losing their team. Look at the revenue numbers. The Stars make money every year.

by Kent K on Oct 27, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok

fine.. it wasnt a clip… it was still a late hit.. and like the video showed those other late hits all could be suspendable… and since he is a repeat offender and there was an injury on the play it wouldnt surprise me if he got some for that to

fine.. it wasnt a clip… it was still a late hit.. and like the video showed those other late hits all could be suspendable… and since he is a repeat offender and there was an injury on the play it wouldnt surprise me if he got some for that toand what in the hell does any of this have to do with the stanley cup? you confused me with that

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by bleedblue2009 on Oct 26, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We might of "stolen" their team

But it sure is nice when I go to a Stars game and see that big Stanley Cup Champions banner. But you know that feeling I’m talking about, right? Oh, thats right, you don’t.

by Kent K on Oct 26, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol you

wanna run this as hockey city v hockey city or championship city v championship city.

this city had and has more championship than your crappy little town ever will, hell we got more championships in our history than mastabatory attempts you have in an hour.

its close though

jack off more.

show us where we rank

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by Childhood Trauma on Oct 26, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lol

Let’s go championship vs championship so we can all laugh at the rangers, mavericks and cowboys.

by Kent K on Oct 26, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok

that would be dallas or rather dallas/arlington/forth worth 6 1 hockey, 5 baseball

st. louis, 13. 11 baseball, 1 football, 1 basketball

just the majors of corse, want to do appearances and add olympics or no?

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by Childhood Trauma on Oct 26, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean

5 football for Dallas, not baseball
the day the Rangers are good enough to win a playoff series, let alone a World Series the world will probably end

by Kent K on Oct 26, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we even got you

outbasketball and havent had a team for decades. maybe you should just steal a good one

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by Childhood Trauma on Oct 26, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

i rather the mavericks just leave, and Dallas not have a basketball team

by Kent K on Oct 26, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's funny...

… I’d like basketball in general to leave. Everywhere.

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