Tuesdays With Hildy: Letters to the Homefront
Special thanks to DanGNR for tweeting this idea to me in a moment of severe writers' block... it's fairly appropriate, I think, for this week.
It's hard. You're about 900 miles away from home. This new place you're at isn't a vacation destination. Actually, it's become more of a temporary permanent residence. You've been there for a little while, and it's a strange place. No one knows what the hell a real toasted ravioli is (you know, the kind with meat). People are fair weather fans who only show up to baseball games when the team wins... maybe. The oldest place to eat is the new Applebee's down on the corner, and stabs at tradition usually involve fire and a pissed off Northern guy.
But one thing about your new temporary permanent but still temporary place of residence actually caught your attention. There's something there that you like. It reminds you of something that you miss... something that you never dreamed that you would see for a very, very long time. You've, against your best judgement, fallen for another hockey team. They will never replace your hometown team. Ever.
But you still go to their games. You still cheer them on - know their players, know their stats, and know their quirks. You've been following them since the team's beginning (or maybe not, depending on the town you're now in), and you consider yourself a fan and emotionally invested in them.
And then the team that you've loved since childhood comes down to play.
Yes, this might only happen once a year, or every other year - if your new team is in the Eastern Conference and your old one is in the West. But mixed with the excitement of seeing your team, there's a small sense of dread. Are you being disloyal to your new team? By even HAVING a new team, are you disloyal to your old one? Can you, in fact, legitimately have two favorite teams?As everyone, their mothers and their third cousins 5 times removed, and their cats know, I live in Atlanta. I am not a huge ginormous fan of the city (nothing bad about it, but it's not home and it really never will be), but I love the Atlanta Thrashers. Yes, they've sucked for a while, but they have some really good qualities that make them an easy team to like.
However, obviously, I write a weekly column here - I'm from St. Louis. I have been watching the Blues since I was 7 - that's over 20 years of Blues hockey. I might love the Thrashers, but I adore the Blues. I have no qualms about putting on one of my Blues jerseys once a year (or twice if preseason schedules align) and making the drive I make 41 times a year to Philips Arena, but as the dreaded "away team fan." I'm cool about standing down on that side of the arena during warm ups, and loudly applauding every single one of our guys.
And while I respect my fellow Thrashers fans, when the Blues are in town by God do I cheer for them. If we score, I stand up. I yell. If there are any other Blues fans around me (usually a few, though this year my company will include the Illustrious DanGNR, making his "Annoying the Blues WORLDWIDE!" tour and Will in STL) I'll probably high five them. I am also not above banging on the glass like a retarded epileptic when one of our Blues reaches a career milestone 5 feet away from me.
But as that fan of the opposition, I have to be aware that I'm in someone else's barn. Away team fans piss everyone off by the mere fact that they exist. Heck, there's even some GT Heckling of people in the concourse in the other sweater, even if it's a team as random as the Isles or Preds. How annoyed do you get when some Red Wing scores and there's that guy standing up and drunkenly yelling at the Blues fans around them?
God knows other teams' fans (most specifically, Sabres, Rangers, and Habs fans) piss me off by being anywhere near Philips. It puts me in a weird position of self-evaluation. Do I have to be polite and considerate of Thrashers fans around me, since I'm in their barn? Am I morally obligated as a Blues fan to be as loud and supportive as possible since there are about 30 of us there total? What do I do if friendly smack-talk takes an unfriendly turn?
If any of you are in that weird position of being *that guy* in another city, what do you do? Does consideration of other fans and respect for the other team you follow win, or for that one night do you close your eyes (or drink a lot - our beers are $3 cheaper here - HA!) and pretend you're in DrinkScotch?
And, if you're pretending you're in St. Louis, does anyone know of some place to get some imaginary toasted ravioli and Imo's Pizza? I need some place to imaginarily eat after the game.
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I know exactly how you feel. I spent 10 years in Chicago (1995 – 2005), and I kind of adopted them. Before anyone gets on my case about liking the blackhawks, understand that this was a period of time where the hawks were about as benign to the Blues as the expansion blue jackets. Many of my new friends were hawks fans, and while I didn’t get season tickets, when I did go to games (which was about 7-8 a season), I’d cheer for the hawks. When the Blues came to town though, I was always on their side. I’d say be respectful when cheering for the Blues. That is unless there are any obnoxious thrasher fans that act first. I’ve never been to Philips to see a game, so I don’t know the environment very well, but I’m sure that you’re well versed in their hockey culture. I remember going to a game in nahsville in the early 2000s, and we pretty much dominated them. It didn’t serve my group of 4-5 friends well to rampage through the gaylord entertainment center (as it was known then) beating the Blue Notes on our chests simply because the opposition was respectful of us. That being said, there were some times that friends of mine and I were at the united center in chicago walking in taking a verbal barrage, and walking out with 2 points. Needless to say, we heckled back. In my opinion, only be obnoxious yourself if you’re provoked….
Be gentle. I'm - um new....
Thrashers fans are usually pretty nice.
When you take out the yuppies who got tickets from their bosses/for their clients and you take out the drunk college kids who are bored for the night… and if you ignore the dumbasses who walk in while the puck’s in play during the last 4 minutes of the 1st period, they’re a good group of people – pretty knowledgeable, too, and fairly hardcore.
I’ve never known any of my friends to heckle anyone from another team unless that person said/did something to them or their kids first. I’ve been fairly good about being really polite to opposition fans since I have something in common with them… heck, I’ve even defended the actions of a few Wings fans here – people were getting on their case for turning Philips into Joe Lewis South and for supporting their team. My thing is, if I were in Detroit and saw the Thrashers play up there, would I be standing up and cheering if we scored? Yepper, if I have my gun on me.
Now the drunk asshat who yelled “Blues suck!” at me while I was in line for a beer last year? Yeah, I saw him on the way out of the game… he wasn’t quite so prone to even so much as look at me. Leaving with 2 points after being heckled is an awesome feeling.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
When you take out the yuppies who got tickets from their bosses/for their clients and you take out the drunk college kids who are bored for the night… and if you ignore the dumbasses who walk in while the puck’s in play during the last 4 minutes of the 1st period…
So that leaves you and…Kovie’s mother? ;-)
I kid, of course – I actually have a friend who claims to be a Thrasher’s fan, although, I’ve yet to assertain her true level of fandom. She’s usually too busy going on about Ugg or how much she hates Tim Tebow.
I know it's time for hockey because I've started singing "Don't Stop Believing" with the words "...born and raised in FUCK DETRIOT!!!"
Basically, yes.
If Kozlov’s wife’s there then maybe there’s three of us who can comprehend the DON’T GET UP/COME DOWN WHEN THE PUCK IS IN PLAY rule. I would also appreciate it if the ushers’d enforce it too for folks who have never been to a game. I know some people don’t know, but it’s just common sense. I mean, I don’t get up and walk in front of people if someone’s at bat when I’m at a ball game.
Hm. Ask her who is leading the team in points right now. That could work. Hint: It’s not Kovy.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
One of my fondous (is that really a word) memory is:
back when I was a fairly new Blues fan. Ya see I lived in the Washington DC metro area for 3 years and discovered hockey there, then moved to St. Louis and immediately became a Blues fan.
I went back to DC to see my original team (the CAPs) take on MY new team (the Blues) IN DC.
I proudly wore my new Blues sweater (or is it now officially a jersey?)….
Anyway, it wasn’t “packed” that night and we were sitting in the lower bowl area. Well, the Blues scored (of course) and I of course forgot where I was. I jumped up and cheered JUST LIKE I was at the drinkscotch center. It was really quite and I looked down a few rows in front of me. Looking back at me .. er.. scowling back at me was this 10 or 11 year old boy giving me his most mean look he could muster. I was actually surprised and almost laughed.
I can still picture his little face trying to be as hateful looking as it could be. Ahh.. ..
and on a slightly more fun experience, I LOVED being “that guy” along with all “those guys” while cheering on our beloved Blues in Sweden. We were quite the posse (am I allowed to say “posse” as a forty year old?) there in Sweden.
Mary had a chicken, Tommy had a duck, lets put them on a table to see if they would ... fall off.
You guys looked/sounded great!
St. Louis Game Time
by Marcus E Pettersson on Nov 3, 2009 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, that reminds me
I have a picture of you from where we sat. I will email it shortly.
Mary had a chicken, Tommy had a duck, lets put them on a table to see if they would ... fall off.
On top of that, the flashing of the Game Time gear was sweet. (I just watched the “Behind the Scenes in Sweden” special on FSMW, where they zoomed in on the Game Time-altered pass.)
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all i rememeber hearing during the game was LETS GO BLUES...that had to be awesome
thanks to all the 2pm beers I don’t rememeber how many e’s are in rememeber
I went to the pittsburgh game last year.....
and after the lose i was eyeing up these 4 guys in their pigion jerseys. Our section let out a little bit b4 theres and as i was walking by, I put up my hand for a high five. When he was just about to follow through i did the old hand to back of head jesture. It was funny, guess you just had to be there.
i have been to most of the blues games in dallas since they moved from minnesota, i have to say other than having nacho cheese wiped on my cujo jersey and having ice cubes thrown at us, which missed and hit a cop, it’s always (for the most part) been fun trash talking between the fans, we used to be pretty bad tho, back in the day shoe polishing my car “honk if u hate the stars” and arriving early just so 4 of us could chant Belfooouur at eddie as he pulled into the parking lot…..good times..
i go all out always
the poll doesnt even apply for me though because opening day i had to go to my cousins wedding (dont worry i taped the game and watched it right when i got home) and i wore this tie that was a black tie with blue and yellow stripes all over it and a big blue note in the middle lol it was awesome
If you have a donkey and i have a chicken and youre donkey ate my chickens feet what would you have.... 2 feet of my cock in youre ass!! haha
It's one reason I go to the games
to heckle guest fan. I’ve amended my hotdog with extra mustard throwing ways of my youth, it’s all verbal now. Well most of the time, them Blackhawk jerseys set me off like fire did to the monster in Young Frankenstein.
Some days its just not worth chewing through the restraints
No responsibility needed whatsoever.
Your team is your team. If your fellow STH’s don’t get it . . . well, they don’t get it. Fuck ’em.
One day, David Backes and Albert Pujols will combine forces to become the most awesome piece of violent force known to man.
I think that they begrudgingly have accepted it.
Though I think a few people have referred to me as that “damn northerner” a few times.
Georgia: Fightin’ a losing war since 1861!
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
Though I think a few people have referred to me as that "damn northerner Yankee" a few times.
/fixed.
Talk loudly about how General Sherman should have done more.
Let's go Blues!!!
The weird thing is...
… when people hear me talk, they know I’m not a Yankee, but they know I’m from the north so I don’t get called a Yank much. I think it’s the fact that I talk really quickly, yet say things like “warsh.” It throws them off.
I actually have said “Sherman had the right idea” a few times and gotten some really nasty looks. Honestly, though, he did – he left all of the bars and brothels intact when he torched the city. Would these people rather have had him burn them down too?
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
Funny thing is.....
Mizzurah was pert near a slave state save for STL and them redlegs doing cross border raids into MO from KS. KS Gov Lane injected their no slaves agenda into MO by burning down all the towns he could find. More KIA in MO than in any other state during the Civil War. The Civil War also started in MO in the 1850s, they just called it a border war even thought there was armed conflicts between organized units as the slave owners sorted out the the redlegs from KS.
So when a southerner calls someone from MO a Yankee I have to laugh, they don’t know their history.
Some days its just not worth chewing through the restraints
My kids are living proof of people not knowing their history.
Busted some today for cheating… said that the Armenians were on the side of the Ancient Romans and that explains the Armenian Genocide. God, if you’re going to copy off of each other, try to get it right… and try to get in the same fucking century. I didn’t know my ancestors were time travelers. Mr. Peabodian! Perfect.
Luckily for them, though, I’m from Illinois, so it’s a win on accident.
Except if I was born at St. Luke’s… so technically… nah. I’ll just keep it simple and say I’m from Granite City. Or, as I have to explain to people down here “I’m from right across the river from St. Louis.” It kind of prevents questions.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
Which is insulting to everyone in the Metro East.
Let's go Blues!!!
by Milo. on Nov 5, 2009 6:08 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yo yo yo!
That kind of talk can get you shot in Atlanta, homeslice.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
That's "God's Country" to you & me.
How did you manage to escape the gravitational pull of Planet Granite?
Most are born there, live there, and die within 20 miles of there.
Let's go Blues!!!
by Milo. on Nov 5, 2009 6:14 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Pop got a job transfer...
… down to here in ’92 – holy crap. Have I been trapped here that long? Ugggghhhh.
Return is imminent, but not to GC – folks are torn between moving to Iowa where my stepdad’s 2 kids and their kids are, or moving to St. Louis. I prefer living close to a real city, so I’m doing the StL thing once the chance presents itself… but it won’t be back to Granite City. Loved my childhood, have a bunch of good memories, but stuff’s changed way too damn much. And I do NOT miss that smell from Hartford. gag
I’d be ok w/Edwardsville, but honestly I’ll probably live on the MO side – IL taxes are getting retarded.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
I was in California and watched on TV when the Geoff Courtnall elbowed the Kings' goalie into oblivion in Game 3 of the playoffs.
After Sean O’Donnell bashed Courts and gave the Blues a 5 minute major PP and the Note pulled off the most unreal playoff comeback I’ve ever seen, I went to work the next day and spent all morning trying to get tickets for Game 4: the sweeper.
I made my 47-month pregnant wife ride down to LA and go to the game in their old arena with me. I had my Blues jersey in the car, but given the fact that I didn’t want my 47-month pregnant wife to be accosted, I left it in the car. We sat next to a couple of hardcore season ticket holders and after the Blues scored the first goal and we gave each other a covert “low-five,” they turned to us and said, “Oh, great.”
He then proceeded to tell us about the Blues fan who had been at Game Three down on the glass and had been so excited and celebratory that he had to be escorted to his car by the cops.
That guy was awesome in my book, but I wasn’t ready for that level of confrontation. We kept it to low-fives and not celebrating too much as we walked back to our car. But we were still psyched and it’s a memory we still talk about.
It was almost like I wrote the first half of this
I mean, if I could rite gud and stufff.
My adoption of the Blues as my “second” team came about living in Missouri and being surrounded by Blues fans for so long. It’s just unfortunate that the second team is a divisional rival- something that earns me shit from fans on both sides. Either way, 76 games a year I want a Blues victory. Those other 6… Not so much.
As far as conduct when a visiting fan, I tread a line. I yell and cheer and such, but tend to avoid turning around yelling “FUCK (insert home team here)” flipping the bird times two. I think being of vocal supporter of your team is okay on the road, but trashing your hosts is pretty classless.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
I'm about to move to Chicago
and plan on going to as many ‘Hawks games as possible just because it’s hockey. I will [obviously] never wear their sweater much less even cheer on their team. Also, having lived away from St. Louis for almost 2 years now, I’ve taken to making my own T-Ravs. Basically all you need is ravioli, eggs, breadcrumbs, and an oven.
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who does this.
It was a pain until I noticed that Bertoli makes a sausage and hamburger ravioli that is perfect for it.
You do the egg thing? I usually try doing it with buttermilk and a biiiiig Dutch oven full of oil. And an apron. I made a shit ton for tailgating before a Braves/Cards game down here, and now my friends harass me for them.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
Hildy...
Any special requests for me to bring down from the Lou?
At least stuff I can bring in a car fairly easily?
You can't call me a fair weather Blues fan.
Bring a suitcase to smuggle me back in.
Wow, seriously… um… my mother’d shit herself if she got a hold of an Imo’s pizza, but there’s no way that you’d want to have THAT thing in a car with you for a drive down here. Yeeesh. Good luck getting the smell out of the car.
I’d take a concrete, but that’d probably melt… or about a dozen Jack in the Box tacos for my family, but again, see Pizza, Imo’s for the result of that one.
Why in the world do my best memories of everything always go back to food?
You’re very sweet to offer. I’ll ask Mom and see if there’s anything in particular that she wants, but I think her first answer’d probably be like mine. She likes her suitcases padded, BTW.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
Oh, DUH!
How about a 6 pack of Schlafly, your choice.
BTW, I talked to my rep and your brother’s ticket should be in my account tomorrow, so you’re good to go! He’s going to try to get it in section 108 where yours is.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
I usually bring a case...
… of Schlafly’s down to my brother (or fat tire, or any dozen other brews he can’t get in “the South.”
You can't call me a fair weather Blues fan.
Oh, wait, you mean beer that doesn't suck? (Abita is not included in that generalization)
BTW, though, they have Fat Tire here now – let him know it’s near the single servings in the beer aisle at Kroger – they had three different kinds of it last time I was there.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
My take
Having only ever seen the Blues on away ice (I know I know. My attempt for this year already seems to have fallen through and it kills me) I have seen them several times at the closest arena to me in Buffalo. I route and cheer and stand when they score. I wear my jersey and have never run into any problems. However I also never bad mouth the opposing team and if they do something good I will usually turn to whomever is sitting next to me and give them a little “damn that was a great move he just made” or something.
I also kind of have a number 2 team since my wife is a fan of another team and I end up watch almost as many Ranger games as I do Blues and you can’t help but start to like a team after watching them so much. If the heavens align and they face each other for the cup I don’t know if my marriage will survive.
I kinda have a semi-opposite issue
have multiple minor league and defunct jersey i wear to the games i usually have to check myself from wearing the other teams affiliation or city. never wear the chicago wolves jersey to a hawks game, or thrashers, but really since my cockatoo ate one of the wolf’s eyes i don’t wear it much period.
but overall i think you gotta know your opponent too, you don’t wear yankees uniform in philadelphia this week and expect not to have to engage in fisticuffs.
A strong anvil fears no hammer
by Childhood Trauma on Nov 4, 2009 10:38 AM CST reply actions
Well here in Wyoming
I’m still a few hours away from Denver, but the guy down the hall is a hawks fan so we’re trying to get tickets for Fridays Avs v Hawks game so I can go boo the Hawks. I do know that my hockey buddies from St. Louis are flying into Denver in March for the Blues/Avs matchup. Much beer will be had by all as we represent the Blues, probably from the nosebleeds but still we’ll be there.
As far as being dickholes about it in the Pepsi center? I don’t forsee it happening, we’ll be loud, but not obnoxious.

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