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Brett Hull Set For Hall Of Fame Induction

Brett Hull and some other guys show off their new rings. (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Frank Gunn)

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Brett Hull and some other guys show off their new rings. (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Frank Gunn)

Brett Hull was not drafted by the St. Louis Blues, it was Calgary. He did not win his first Stanley Cup in St. Louis, it was Dallas. He did not win his second Stanley Cup in St. Louis, it was Detroit. He didn't retire in St. Louis, it was Phoenix.

Regardless, Brett Hull belongs to St. Louis. And after tonight he belongs to the Hockey Hall of Fame. He deserves it. Totally happy for him. But it brings up mixed emotions about his time in St. Louis.

During his heyday, Hull filled the highlight reels with his famous snapshot. Back in the day, he was a floater. He liked to hang out near the neutral zone just waiting for an outlet pass. But he was a Zen master in finding where the calm spot on the ice would be in the slot before it happened. Hull was a loudmouth and by all accounts not the best teammate in the dressing room. But did become a more all-around player and was a key contributor for two Cup-winning teams.

Brett Hull played his own kind of game, never took no for an answer and owned the city of St. Louis for nearly a decade.

Everything about the Golden Brett is melancholy. He was an electric player who brought the Blues to the civic and league forefront. His popularity helped build a modern building for the team. He won a Hart Trophy as league MVP. He joined an elite club of players by scoring 50 goals in 50 games...TWICE.

He also never made it out of the second round of the playoffs. He had his captaincy stripped away. He couldn't click with Wayne Gretzky during his short tenure with the Blues. He alienated management. He liked to have too much of a good time off the ice. When his contract expired, the team let him walk as a free agent instead of trading or attempting to re-sign him.

With Hull, all the good memories are a little tarnished with how it ended. That's kind of the story of this franchise. Make the Stanley Cup Finals for the first few years, get swept each time and then never make it back. The number of players to pass through St. Louis to only play big roles on Cup-winning teams is too depressingly long to recite.

Anyone 20 or younger probably doesn't remember Hull in the Blue Note. They can only watch the clips and read the stories and shake their head at how such a tremendous offensive player could be allowed to leave St. Louis.

In the end, the Cup in Dallas will be associated with Mike Modano. The Cup in Detroit, another in the legacy of Yzerman and Lidstrom. By default, Hull belongs to us. And that's fine by me.

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Im 20

I totally remember, and I still liked big Al more

Look I'm sure youre a nice person and everything but that Redwings jersey you're wearing makes me want to cave your face in with my fist...it's not you it's me and the fact that you're a fucking Redwings fan

by RFJCC on Nov 9, 2009 11:57 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

21 and I totally remember.

He’s the reason that I got into hockey back when I was younger. I even went to one of his golf clinics that he did for some charity back in the mid 90s.

by thesystm on Nov 9, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

funny

i got his autograph when i ran into him in a golf shop in Rock Hill…still have it too

Look I'm sure youre a nice person and everything but that Redwings jersey you're wearing makes me want to cave your face in with my fist...it's not you it's me and the fact that you're a fucking Redwings fan

by RFJCC on Nov 9, 2009 1:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Im 23

and I dont like him one bit, yea hes ours, regretfully, the guy was a full on prick on and off the ice, i remember when i was real young met him out in the city and asked for an autograph and he said no he had more important things to do then sign autographs. seriously an 8 yr old kid asks for an autograph that takes 2 effing minutes to sign and you dont do it? I am glad the management let him walk, it really turned me into loving baseball more then hockey because the players i met seemed more humble then him, I am starting to slowly turn back to hockey as one my favorite sport because i do believe the players are a little bit more humble now then they were

Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat

by DESTROYER on Nov 9, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm 19

The best i can remember was everyone saying, “why did we get rid of Hull” as soon as it happened

Really, the only bad part of bacon is that it makes you thirsty . . . for more bacon

by jacksonian on Nov 9, 2009 5:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That, among other reasons is why I hate Ed Belfour

He gave his stick to some dickhole wearing a flannel shirt in the crowd, next to me when I was wearing my Modano jersey with a sign saying it was my birthday.

Disclaimer: I have always loved Modano and my parents bought me a jersey to go get signed for my 12th birthday. Don’t worry, I cheered for the Blues.

by thesystm on Nov 9, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you

Yeah, it’s possible that he was the the best goal-scorer ever, but he was a dickface- at least in my experience. Maybe I caught him on bad days, but when I was a kid I met him a few times and he was invariably a douchebag.

I think that Dominik’s analysis was pretty spot on, too. Hull did win Cups, but only after Hitchcock forced him to play two ways. And also, he was never the top gun on those winning teams.

That said, he was a great player and I still prefer him to Mike Keenan.

by Manbones on Nov 10, 2009 2:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i am a big al fan my fan

Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat

by DESTROYER on Nov 9, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

20 as well

My first sweater was an old school Hull with his signature on it…given to me by a cousin of mine.

by Busch Ice on Nov 9, 2009 6:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mixed emotions indeed

My family moved to St. Louis from Nashville two months before I was born in 1985. Like most people who lived in the South, they were not hockey fans. My dad loved baseball and football and that’s what I grew up loving. My earliest memories are Cardinals baseball and me wanting to be Ozzie Smith. And then Brett Hull started scoring goals.

The 1989-90 season I was four years old. Hull potted 72 goals. The next season he scored 50 goals in 49 games an appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated. I don’t remember much about this since I was so young but here’s what I remember: That cover hung on my wall. I had a poster on my bed room door celebrating Brett Hull’s 50-in-50.

Hull made the Blues so popular that, without football in town, people like my family get turned on to hockey. I started watching the games, buying hockey cards, playing street hockey. I wouldn’t be a hockey fan today if Hull didn’t play for the Blues.

That said, seeing pictures of him as a Star or Red Wing just piss me off. He shouldn’t have left. Selfishly, I wish he had never won anything in those places. But, it’s part of his legacy. I’m happy he’s going into the Hall of Fame, but it angers me that management let the best player walk away and that he ended up winning anything.

by averagejoe on Nov 9, 2009 12:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Caption the picture

In brightest day in blackest night…

Hatred Walking

by Doc Whiskey on Nov 9, 2009 12:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

"Earth! Fire! Wind Water! Heart!"

“By your powers combined, I am…CAPTAIN PLANET!”

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by TheDuke32 on Nov 10, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Modano?

It was “his” team, to be sure, but their Cup win will ALWAYS be associated with Hull. Not all of him, just his left foot…

.... formerly "Tim" of StLouisGameTime.com

by CrossCheckRaise on Nov 9, 2009 12:20 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

insert rimshot here

And for the record I have a signed photo from the goalie camera of Hull, the back of Hasek and the puck going in the net.

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by Brad Lee on Nov 9, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well said

When Hull’s HOF election was announced, Kelly Chase gave a great interview on the radio. Chase clearly loves the guy, but he conceded about the post-Stevens locker room, something to the effect of: “We didn’t have the right guys to keep [Hull] in line.”

I loved watching Hull, didn’t want to see him run out of town (at least not for free). Lot of great memories. But yeah, it was always bittersweet with him — including some of the sub-par teammates he had to play with. Whenever he says, “I showed those people who said you can’t win a Cup with Brett Hull,” I wanna say back, “No. You confirmed those who said this team wouldn’t win one with Hull as leader.” Too much baggage.

Maybe he had to be humbled by leaving and then going where there were already alpha dogs in the room before he saw the light. Oh well. His 527 goals and however many playoff goals in the Bluenote did not suck. And Blues management — and Adam Oates’ agent, and Keenan, and the P-D media narrative — did their share to screw it up. It was never meant to be. When two basketcases get together, that’s how it ends.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 9, 2009 12:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I remember Hull from the 90s

I have the Media Guide from like ‘89, the first full year after he was traded…I have somewhere the McDonald’s Comic books (all 3 i think) werent they like the Brett Hull Adventures? Im only 26 now…but I remember that era fondly, my hockey “formative years.”

Awesome that he’s finally in the hall of fame…just too bad he couldn’t stay here…and win the cup with US…

NOW I WANT A HULL STATUE NEXT TO FEDERKO and MACINNIS OUTSIDE THE DRINKSCOTCH!

by bss212s on Nov 9, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

A plager needs to be put out there first at the very least

Look I'm sure youre a nice person and everything but that Redwings jersey you're wearing makes me want to cave your face in with my fist...it's not you it's me and the fact that you're a fucking Redwings fan

by RFJCC on Nov 9, 2009 5:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm actually pretty shocked that there isn't one out there yet.

I’m just about 28… Hull is my earliest memory of Blues hockey, and as a little kid, he was just fun to watch. He helped get a whole generation of people interested in Blues hockey, and helped make many many fans for life.

St. Louis is a Cardinals town, and I love the guys I grew up watching… Ozzie, Terry Pendelton, Willie McGee… but really, honestly, my best sports memories will always be attached to Hull, Oates, CuJo, Shanny, and the myriad of other great players that we had the privilege of having play for our team during that era.

BTW, I thought Hull’s speech was very classy and very heartfelt. I appreciated him recognizing Peter Zezel, too, because as of 8:00 no one thought to mention him in any of the “In Rememberance” tributes.

Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?

Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.

by hildymac on Nov 9, 2009 6:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

BTW, I thought Hull’s speech was very classy and very heartfelt. I appreciated him recognizing Peter Zezel, too, because as of 8:00 no one thought to mention him in any of the "In Rememberance" tributes.

That’s a crime if no one else mentioned Zezel.

And Hull’s speech was, simply, awesome. Just fantastic. Don’t know if he’d admit it, but he’s grown up quite a bit since shootin’ and smilin’ days.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 10, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

haha, yes those comic books, i remember harassing my stl relatives until they finally got them for me…hullie was the reason i first got hooked on the blues, before the days of center ice i fondly recall listening to kmox while sitting in the driveway or if i lost reception driving around the neighborhood listening to ken wilson call a hull goal, congrats to brett, o and did i mention Mike Kennan Sucks!!!!

by brado on Nov 9, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Still my favorite player

He’s the reason I’m a Blues fan to this day. Just wish we could have won a cup with him here…

Baltimore Blast - 6-time MISL/NISL Champions
Let's go Blues!

by UIWWildthing on Nov 9, 2009 1:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm 20 (almost 21!)...

and while I can’t recall the Hull & Oates years (or even, admittedly, the Shanny years), I still fondly remember Brett Hull. I didn’t really start following the Blues until just after he left, but as a kid around the age of 6 or 7, there are a few names you know are celebraties, even if you don’t know why they’re famous: in the mid-90s, I mean people like Madona, Steven Spielburg, Ken Griffey Jr., names like that. Growing up in St. Louis at the time, Brett Hull was one of those names. Yes, there’s a lot of mixed emotions, but if you were to take a poll of this community(listening Hildy? Tomorrow is Tuesday!), you’d probably find that at least a good third to half of the fans here are Blues fans due in large – maybe even most part to number 16. Before Brett Hull, no one from St. Louis had ever played in the NHL. Today, a generation later, there are at least two St. Louis-born players in the Blues system alone.

It might be a representative of the hard-luck that the Blues have had as a franchise, but the Brett Hull is THE most prominent person in the history of the St. Louis Blues. No contest. Some closer to the team might argue other less obvious choices would be better suited, but the mere fact that they are less obvious means the answer is clear.

Fans may have loved the Plagers and Brian Suter. Bernie Federko may be the one sacared cow in the Blues family. The management may have chosen Al MacInnis over Hullie. And the loss of Chris Pronger may have led (directly or otherwise) to the collapse of the team on and off the ice. But love him or hate him, Brett Hull IS St. Louis Blues hockey.

Until T.J. Oshie puts the Bermuda Cup inside Lord Stanley’s!

I know it's time for hockey because I've started singing "Don't Stop Believing" with the words "...born and raised in FUCK DETRIOT!!!"

by J-Mill on Nov 9, 2009 2:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

hmmm

im just trying to figure out if they are the new green lantern corps or the wonder twins +3.

wonder twin powers activate

A strong anvil fears no hammer

by Childhood Trauma on Nov 9, 2009 2:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Well said!

I did not become a true hockey fan until I watched Hull play in St. Louis. J-Mill hits it big time with his comments. I have talked with many people, old and young, about the Blues legacy, and Hull is the one player who is brought up most often. While The Twister will always be my favorite Bad Boy in Blue…I can not deny that it was Hull who drew me into the game that has become my only choice of sport.

If I could only watch one sport for the rest of my life? That's easy. Hockey. Saint Louis Blues Hockey.

by bleed-blue on Nov 9, 2009 2:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Being 28 . . .

I can fully remember the glory that was the Hull era in St. Louis. Yeah, the guy could be a dick, but when you’re THAT good, you can pretty much get away with being a dick (See Also: Roenick, Jeremy).

I really wish he would’ve gotten a few more years with Adam Oates. I can’t imagine how Gretzky would still be holding the career goal-scoring title if THOSE two were paired together long-term. Shanahan and Janney were good, but holy fuck-of-the-century were Hull and Oates just a terrific pair together.

He was my hockey hero through the thick and thin, even if he was an asshole. He was the face of a franchise that needed one after the departure of Bernie Federko.

He was awesome. That’s all I gotta say really.

One day, David Backes and Albert Pujols will combine forces to become the most awesome piece of violent force known to man.

by Donut King on Nov 9, 2009 3:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

a dick?

even the twister could only say (on the radio today) that all brett did was tell the truth,with occasional bad timing. eh we should be so lucky as to have brewer and murray and pleau and jd tell us the truth today. everyone would be screaming or crying at this point in the season i suspect, but the truth shall set us freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! :)

funniest thing is when Mcgraw asked tony if brett going in the hall changed anything for tony, tony said “not a single thing”

A strong anvil fears no hammer

by Childhood Trauma on Nov 9, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Is there any place that the cerimonies will be up on-line?

I have rehearsal tonight, but will they be up later in the week? I have a feeling Hullie’s speech might be a memorable one for obvious reasons!

I know it's time for hockey because I've started singing "Don't Stop Believing" with the words "...born and raised in FUCK DETRIOT!!!"

by J-Mill on Nov 9, 2009 5:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You can catch it on the Blues' official site.

Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?

Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.

by hildymac on Nov 9, 2009 7:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am 24

and Brett Hull made me a hockey fan and player. His number graces my jersey everytime I suit up and it is by far my lucky number. If Hull, Oates and Cujo would not have been run out St. Louis would have a Cup. Even tho I despise Dallas and Detroit I was incredibly happy for Brett when he was able to hoist the Cup. For a team with no Championships, St. Louis has almost as rich a player history as a team like Montreal, Detroit and the Oilers.

If it ain't hockey, it ain't shit.

by BackesisreallyChuck on Nov 9, 2009 6:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I grew up watching his old man the Golden Jet

Now that I’ve dated myself, Hullie was my type of player, he spoke his mind and you knew where he stood. No BS. A delight to hear before or after a game. Sure he was an azzhole sometimes, who isn’t when they say things not everyone wants to hear.

He lived the dream that many of us had as kids that weren’t the fastest or best skaters. He made the bigs and adapted to stay there.

Right now the Blues don’t have anyone close to the Alpha male that Brett was. We need one to step up if we’re going to win the cup. We need that swagger and voice.

Hullie’s statue needs to go out front, but as RFJCC said, the Plagers need to be out there first.

Some days its just not worth chewing through the restraints

by spectr17 on Nov 9, 2009 8:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

he spoke his mind and you knew where he stood. No BS. A delight to hear before or after a game.

I actually appreciated that side of him. No player made me laugh as much as he did — but I wish he just stuck to that. Because there actually was BS, a lot of it: He’d say stuff just to stir shit up, then after the media ran with it — like he should’ve known they would — he’d backtrack, “Geez, why do you guys take me so seriously.” A leader doesn’t create sideshows like that and leave his teammates to deal with it.

Not saying that’s totally his fault; we have Wheatley and Luecking and Gordon to thank for following him like a lapdog and perpetuating the circus. But I don’t think Hull realized at the time the responsibility he carried, or the effect some of his BS could have, and that was a handicap he carried with multiple Blues coaches. Hate to bring up Yzerman as a contrast because Yzerman was pretty damned boring, but Yzerman clearly had a better handle on the impact of his actions.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 10, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

im 15

dont remember him to much.i actually remember steve iyzerman more then brett. he’s not the reason i fell in love with hockey but he’s a reason i stuck with it.paul kariya and vancouvers naslund are the reasons i fell in,love with hockey.they may not be my favorite players now (oshie, crosby, eller,berglund) but i still love them.i wish brett the best and i hope he comes back to st louis as a coach or any other job.he is and always will be the face of the Blues

Somliga tänker på framtiden och upprörd. Fheiceáil de börjar raket och skyddsrum. Fheiceáil De TJ Oshie, börja ett nedfallet tak. "

by Oshie#74 on Nov 9, 2009 8:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm 21

and remember him well (even have a signed stick of his at home). It’s my first comment here too. You guys do a great job. As big of a Cardinals and Rams fan as I am, growing up I went to more Blues games than both of those other teams (even have faint memories of the Arena…St. Louis Vipers anyone?). And besides Ozzie Smith, he’s probably my favorite St. Louis athlete ever. I still have the cover of Sporting News with Hull and Gretzky on the cover, thinking we were going to win at least three straight cups. Congrats to Brett. Too bad he couldn’t win the big one in the Lou.

by kevinramsfan on Nov 9, 2009 9:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to GT!

Or as we like to say around these parts: Fuck Detroit!

I know it's time for hockey because I've started singing "Don't Stop Believing" with the words "...born and raised in FUCK DETRIOT!!!"

by J-Mill on Nov 10, 2009 12:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hull & The old Arena

You went to see hull and the high flying offense of the time. He may have built the new place, but i always remember him in that old dome with terrible parking and it always being dark and kinda cozy. I find myself lucky to see him play there and to have watched great games there.
I remember going to the old barn and it being so loud you couldn’t here the person next to you. Went to alot of games when younger down there but the 2 i remember most, the one above i dont’ remember the date but it was a shoot out 5-4 or 5-6 against 99 and the kings, i can’t honestly remember having more fun at a game. The other was a red wing game where, for the life of me i can’t remember the fighter at the time for detriot, after a scrum or something all the refs were huddle by the center line and he came up and punched janakoski (sp?) was one of joeseph’s back ups. Needless to say the refs didn’t see it the old arena damn near exploded. I still say the hull &oats teams could beat any of the president cup teams from earlier this decade

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