David Perron

If Perron doesn’t get that demotion and that wakeup call, I don’t know if he has that jump and that determination to make that goal. The celebration, I thought, was more of a “I told you I could do that!” instead of a “I make goal! Am so very, very happy!”

Perron playing the point on the power play is a sign that he still has a decent role on the team. But it has to be frustrating to be moved down and play less ice time. And when he’s on the ice, it’s with Cam Janssen.

I think Perron will be here for the long haul. Murray, I don’t know.

When I was watching the online feed it said that Murray said he wants Perron to “have more urgency” or something fucktarded like that. I seriously don’t know what the hell it was all about though, it kinda made me want to punch murray in the face.

They better not move him unless they get a GREAT return.
Number fifty-seven is worth the price of admission.

There are a few different discussions about Perron going on over at blues.nhl.com. You’ll find a lot of opinions..I thought they were a good read:
Perron with 8:43 of ice time last night.., Another Murray hate thread..:
Your Perron answer..from Murray, Insert Rolling Eyes anywhere.. :
David Perron:

After that sweet goal I remember distinctly in the third period when he was put out with Berglund and Oshie. The appears to be nothing more than threatening to send him to Peoria like earlier in the season to light a fire under him. Murray’s criticism about urgency probably stems more from the freakish upside he sees and his desire to see Perron finally come into his own. I just think this is a bit of a fan over reaction on 20 year old.

Perron is a gifted sniper, there is no doubt. The jock removal he performed last night on Webb and goal was a obvious FU to Murray.

Why no love between the two? Perron just doesn’t perform up to the level he could and it drives AM and me mad. Murray is a control freak, it’s what ran him out of town here in LA.
I’ve posted many times this year I’m not a DP hater but his public skating seasons with the puck and admiring his own stickhandling in the glass is killing us. Other teams have picked up on this and pressure him on the PP because of it. Call it urgency with the puck or whatever, it’s a problem that DP needs to fix.

If not, Perron will eventually tire of the button pushing and move on to another team where he’ll haunt the Blues for many years.

the reason Perron saw no ice time in OT, was Murray was pissed about the exceptionally bad slashing penalty Perron took away from the play while he was getting ice time in the waning moments of the third period.

I think (hope?) J.D. won’t dump an asset like Perron. The kid is still just so young — and even “young” in hockey years considering his unconventional path to the NHL. I bet J.D. and Perron will be here longer than Murray — so J.D. maybe doesn’t mind having Murray deliver the tough love.

Oh, on the Blues history (gotta love a Shock10 user name!) and the awful Mullen trade: Wasn’t he just “too pricey for cheap Ornest”? My memory is that Calgary knew — as with Gilmour — that the Blues needed to get rid of him because Harry wouldn’t pay him. So Calgary fleeced us.

I think that Perron needs a wake up call every once in a while. Spectr17 put it very well up there a little bit. Perron is a gifted puckhandler who thinks he’s GOD with a puck…or so it seems to me. He needs to learn to play in a system and let his creativity evolve within the system. It will happen. Until it does, he’ll get banished to 4th line play every couple of months.

As far as other players go…as a coach you have to treat players as individuals. Some players play better when you pull them aside, some when you call them out in the media, some when you visibly put them in their place (the 4th line for a game or a shift or a week)…it all depends.

the most likely reason that Perron gets heat from Murray is because he doesn’t listen to what he tells him to do. on the other hand, if he goes out there and hotdogs it then he’s gonna get put where he’ll be more effective: when you have too much skill, why not be put on a line with guys with almost no skill (Janssen). it balances out in the end

seems like murray is trying to light a spark under the kid, which is fine, but if he keeps getting under ten minutes of ice time down the stretch thats unacceptable. we’re not making the playoffs, the last two games have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt, so these games now are invaluable in terms of getting the kids minutes in every possible situation to help them down the road.

if it comes to next season and we’re still in this “oh, i just dont know what to do with him” mode regarding perron then we’ll probably have to trade him otherwise the habs are likely to come in with an offer sheet for him, they tend to froth at the mouth at any french canadian forward with talent.

plus, it’s well known that he’s a pest. it’s a GOOD thing thing to have him out there in the final minutes of the game to keep the other team’s mind off their “miracle comeback attack plan”

i’m done with this fucking team. We finally start getting some of this talent we have patiently waited for for years and we demote them to the fourth line for brad fucking winchester. This guy isn’t kovalev out there even if he is his favorite player, you can see perron has a passion and a determination to win that I don’t see in a lot of other blues, yet he is punished.

Honestly, I love the kid’s potential, and that goal in Nashville-wow. But if you’ve watched him game in and game out, he still tends to float around, especially without the puck. He carries the puck too much and relies on stick-handling a lot more than he should – sometimes he just needs to fire it when he’s got a shot instead of trying to make that last little move.

This is just his first full year in the NHL. He should have played in juniors last year, and with most teams, I bet he would have. What you are seeing is growing pains. Fourth line? It’s not like Janssen skates the whole game, usually somebody like Boyes or Oshie gets double-shifted with McClement and Perron. Last night, Berglund wound up on that group and Perron skated with McDonald and Oshie in the third period. He was on the point again on the power play.

You can bitch about which defensemen need a kick in the ass, but we’ve only got 7 left right now. It’s a lot easier to find a forward who will fill their lane, go to the front of the net, and backcheck with some intensity, which is servicable. But if you don’t keep on David Perron at this point in his career, when he does seem to be coachable, then you wind up with Nikolay Zherdev.

It saves some of his strength for the power play – or OT if needed.

Without good talented shooters to attempt to pass the puck to, he will be forced to shoot it more often – resulting in more goals.

Having Cam Jansen on the ice with him can easily create the right situations for DP to score. Cam is busy checking the other team while anybody else feeds DP the puck for fast break, a 2 on 1, a or 3 on 2. That combination can only result in more goals.

Plus, if the other team is distracted by the possibility of hits from Jansen and the other fourth liners AND the puck skills of DP, it creates more potential for getting under the other team’s skin – resulting in more power plays.

It’s not “personal” – It’s not “magical” – It’s coaching plain and simple. On any given day every player has to be coached differently and Murray has figured out how to coach DP. Don’t be so quick to judge either one of them just yet – or send either one of them packing for the door. You want team unity? Not only does that mean keeping the core players together, but it might just mean keeping the coach who has learned how they tick with them, too.

I’m far from anything but an arm chair GM, but the only thing I haven’t liked so far is a coach using the media to “call out” any player. One of the basics of leadership is to be man enough to go directly to a person and tell them what they are doing right AND what they are doing wrong. Using a “middle man” like the media is weak. It works the same way from the players, too. I even lost the enchantment of Bret Hull when he started mouthing to the media instead of saying it in the locker room. Being an NHL player, coach, or teammate means being a player, coach, and teammate 24/7, on or off the ice, in the locker room, or in front of the media.