Wednesday Morning Dump
February is almost over and the Blues are stilling playing meaningful games - and winning them, too. Awesome.
Happy Wednesday to all. Just a friendly reminder so you don't look like a douche: today is Ash Wednesday for all the Catholics out there. This involves them having ash rubbed on their foreheads. Please, don't be like my friend Nate who forgets this and says, "Dude, you got something on your forehead." And with that PSA out of the way. Let's get to the links.
Blues news
- Blues win! Here's the AP write up, the Post-Dispatch.
- Also from the PD, Andy McDonald is the reason David Perron and Patrik Berglund are on the fourth line.
- One shocking thing about last night, the game didn't go into OT. Apparently the calendar is to blame for the abundance of free hockey.
- TSN thinks the Blues have some good prospects. Does the Game Time Prospect Department agree with this list?
- This reporter thinks the Blues should hold onto guys like Keith Tkachuk at the deadline.
- Our new friends at Five for Howling aren't feeling as good as we are right now.
- I'm going to assume all of you read Puck Daddy. If you don't, do it. Also, make fun of this guy.
- Is this site making it big time? (Scroll down to see what I'm talking about.)
Other hockey news
- Here's what happened last night.
- Here's what is going down tonight.
- My game of the night: Sharks vs. Wings. If you're bored tonight, head over to Fear the Fin and pay our friends like ang a visit.
- Sidney Crosby has a sore groin. Feel free to make your jokes about that in the comments.
- New New York Rangers head coach John Tortorella says no more stepping on the locker room logo.
- Our old friend Chris Pronger might be traded soon. No word on where his wife will let him play.
Other news
- Like I said yesterday, old(er) people are crazy.
Daily video
T.J. Oshie is reacing God-like status here. I'm ok with that.
That will be it for me today. Don't forget to send cool/important stuff to gametimelinks (at) gmail.com. Happy hump day.
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Murray's comments from the linked article...
“I think you go through these phases particularly when you’re a young guy,” Murray said. “Both guys (Berglund and Perron) are still top four on our team in scoring, and they just need to play better. They need to be accepting of a role redefinement for a few games and play within that. If they don’t want to do that, as I indicated to Perron today, there’s another guy we can put in that spot.”
Sorry, but I’m not buyin’ it, Goblin.
Why do you have to single out Perron every blasted time in these interviews?
Without fail, it’s Perron who gets singled out for criticism and “correction” from Murray.
Do you tell the press — and by extension, the paying fans of the Blues — that you “indicated” to Berglund that “there’s another guy we can put in (his) spot” if he doesn’t change everything that got him to the NHL in the first place?
Why you insist on taking a potential Guy Lafleur, and trying to turn him into another Guy Carbonneau, is completely beyond me. Some guys are simply meant to be scorers. Period. Not every player is going to grind and backcheck well enough or often enough to suit you; you have to look past that sometimes and see the player for what he is, instead of what you want him to be in order to fit into your “system.”
Coaches and “systems” come and go, but a player is going to be the kind of player he is, regardless of who his coach is today, or tomorrow.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://www.tomorrowsblues.net
by Tomorrows Blues on Feb 25, 2009 9:17 AM CST reply actions
A thought....
If the Blues aren’t gonna be sellers, might they be buyers? Given the prospects we got in the system I wouldn’t mind seeing a 1st or 2nd round pick going out to bring in some scoring help now.
A harder question would be is there any of the young kids you would move for a rent-a-player if that gave us a better playoff shot?
JD always says “we can’t keep all the prospects.” As I said… a thought.
As your Game Time Prospect Department...
…I wouldn;t have any objections to seeing a top pick, or a top prospect, be traded for the right player.
“The right player,” in my mind, would be a young(ish), established NHL scoring forward, or a “can’t-miss” guy right on the hairy edge of hitting it big.
The Blues’ first-rounder this year for Jordan Staal? Maybe, but I’d prefer a scoring winger as opposed to a center.
Lars Eller for Jiri Tlusty? As much as I like Tlusty, no.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://www.tomorrowsblues.net
by Tomorrows Blues on Feb 25, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Damn
We can’t get anything past you guys.
Yesterday SB Nation launched a new partnership with Yahoo! Sports to get our sports blogs featured on team pages and stuff on their site. So our links will be on some of the Y! SPorts pages. We’ve seen a few hits from their sites, but not a lot yet. Basically it’s more exposure for the site and we don’t have to do much more.
We weren’t going to make a big deal about it. But thanks for noticing.
www.stlouisgametime.com
Just looked at the Blues team page on Yahoo Sports . . .
And you’ve got a tile just below the SLPD/AP stories. With the “left eye” of the header logo and the SBNation stuff and all that. As well as the last four stories posted.
WE’S ON THE INNANETS, MAMA!
"The world is getting to be such a dangerous place, a man is lucky to get out of it alive." -- W.C. Fields
Brian,
I respect your opinion, and your knowledge of hockey is tremendous. But I’d be willing to wager a good deal of money that the Blues know how to handle Perron a little bit better than anybody on this website does.
However, David Perron played a terrible first period last night.
Murray is trying to get the best out of Perron, and he’s choosing to motivate him via the media. We don’t see what goes on behind the scenes. How many 1 on 1 meetings has Murray had with Perron? How many times has Murray told Perron the same things about what he needs to do to become a more complete player before lashing out in the press at him?
Had he not scored the goal, and had he not shown his normal spunk that he brings on most nights during the third period, Perron’s performance would have been greatly below average last night.
How many people, regardless of profession, at age 20 are perfect in what they do? How many hockey players, regardless of age, are never criticized by their coaches?
Would you feel the same way about Perron if he’d been returned to the QMJHL last season, or hadn’t made the team at all last season and this was his rookie season?
Kind of off the subject, but, when I see Berglund and Perron playing with Jannsen, I see it more as Cam playing with the kid line instead of Berglund and Perron being demoted to the fourth line.
Not to get into this whole Perron thing again ...
But I think Brain raises an interesting point. Andy Murray constantly calls out Perron. Anytime Murray questions ANYTHING bad, he throws Perron’s name in. I’m tired of hearing it, I can only imagine how David feels. It seems to work, Murray calls him out and Perron plays a good game. But, how much longer can AM get away with this?
Perron’s biggest problem seems to be lack of effort — even his biggest supporters admit he takes shifts off. How does the team get him to play hard every shift for 82+ games? Calling him out works for now, but I don’t see it working much longer.
It seemingly works calling him out doesn’t it? I would think they are trying to instill consistency and hard work into the little bugger. There is also training him to be a professional. This is a 24/7/365 gig and he can’t sit back at any time. If he wants to, he can trade in his $850k salary and be a working stiff.
To put it bluntly to all of us internet nerds, WE WILL NEVER KNOW what REALLY happens in that room. All we see are interview segments and games. That is only a VERY small portion of this season long ride.
Brian you have a real knack for the prospect thing and seemingly a good eye on gauging talent. With all due respect, this kid couldn’t fill Lafluer’s jock strap with a bucket of water. I really hope I’m wrong about that though.
Thrillin' Booties and Punchin' Faces.
I guess my point was this
If I’m at work and my boss calls me out EVERY SINGLE meeting there is going to come a point where either A) I start looking for new work B) I just tune out my boss or C) I work hard to fix what I’m doing wrong. Of those options, only one is good.
I’m all for trying to motivate Perron, but I’m afraid of what happens once this yell at him to the paper’s runs its course.
Couldn't have said it better myself, Joe...
I guess my point was this… If I’m at work and my boss calls me out EVERY SINGLE meeting there is going to come a point where either A) I start looking for new work B) I just tune out my boss or C) I work hard to fix what I’m doing wrong. Of those options, only one is good.
I’m all for trying to motivate Perron, but I’m afraid of what happens once this "yell at him to the paper" (stuff) runs its course.
As a former president once said, "let me make this perfectly clear." I have no objection whatsoever to Perron’s being demoted to the fourth line on occasion as a teaching tool and/or a motivating factor.
I completely agree that doing this is the best way to get, and keep, a young guy on the straight and narrow. I have no desire to just hand Perron, or any other player, top-line minutes. He needs to work for them, and earn them, just like anyone else.
What pisses me off is the fact that it’s ONLY Perron that the Goblin’s evil eye ever lands upon.
The rest of the team could eat a rancid platypus, play like a bad bantam team on three hours’ sleep, and as sure as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, the Goblin will make sure that the press knows that, as far as he (Murray) is concerned, Perron’s lack of effort was the single most decisve factor in why the team did not win that night.
Enough of the Murray Media Mindf***, already. This guy is supposed to be such a great "teaching coach;" if he can’t find any way to push Perron’s buttons other than to run him down in the press, and make him the scapegoat for any negatives the Blues may have as a team, then there is a problem.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://www.tomorrowsblues.net
by Tomorrows Blues on Feb 25, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
"Sidney Crosby has a sore groin. Feel free to make your jokes about that in the comments."
What? Does he have a yeast infection?
I think a yeast infection yields an itchy groin. Perhaps his boyfriend got frisky and bruised his pubic bone?
How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige
Methinks it's karma...
…for his treating Valabik’s undercarriage like a speedbag.
Shockingly enough, I was unawares that Crosby had groin muscles. Wouldn’t you need those for some thing’s he’s incapable of? Like, um, peeing standing up?
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. --Homer Simpson
Re: The TSN Top Prospects list
TSN thinks the Blues have some good prospects. Does the Game Time Prospect Department agree with this list?
For the most part, yes, your GTPD does indeed agree with that list.
1. Alex Pietrangelo – Defence, 19 (1st round 4th overall 2008), currently with Niagara (OHL).
2. Patrik Berglund – Centre, 20 (1st round, 25th overall 2006), currently with St. Louis (NHL).
3. T.J. Oshie – Centre, 22 (1st round, 24th overall 2005), currently with St. Louis (NHL).
4. Ian Cole – Defence, 20 (1st round 18th overall 2007), currently with Notre Dame (NCAA).
5. Lars Eller – Centre, 19 (1st round 13th overall 2007), currently with Frolunda (SWE).
6. Jake Allen – Goalie, 18 (2nd round 34th overall 2008), currently with Montreal (QMJHL).
7. Ben Bishop – Goalie, 22 (3rd round, 85th overall 2005), currently with Peoria (AHL).
8. Aaron Palushaj – Right Wing, 19 (2nd round 44th overall 2007), currently with Michigan (NCAA).
9. Simon Hjalmarsson – Right Wing, 20 (2nd round 39th overall 2007), currently with Frolunda (SWE).
10. Brett Sonne – Centre, 19 (3rd round 85th overall 2007), currently with Calgary (WHL).
11. Jonas Junland – Defence, 21 (3rd round 64th overall 2006), currently with Peoria (AHL).
12. Cade Fairchild – Defence, 20 (4th round 96th overall 2007), currently with Minnesota (NCAA).
I’d flip-flop Eller and Cole, push Bishop down to # 11, pull Palushaj, Hjalmarsson, Sonne and Junland up one space each, drop Fairchild (an excellent offensive prospect, but his defense still needs some refinement), and add Philip McRae in his place.
Bishop still has all the potential in the world, and I have every confidence that he’ll work out just fine, but head-to-head this year against Chris Holt, Holt has been the better goalie.
Not only are Holt’s numbers far better, but I’ve personally seen both play, and Holt’s mechanics are better. Holt, like Bishop, is a big goalie, and Bishop is more athletic, but Holt is far more economical in his movements, plays the angles a little better, and has better rebound control. Holt is about a year older than Bishop, which may explain some of this, but Holt is still only 23, which means he’s still at least 3-5 years away from his prime as a goaltender.
The 2007 draft will go down as the single most significant draft in Blues’ history; fully half of this list of top prospects (six or 12) were added to the Blues’ organization in the 2007 draft.
Really, it’s the second part of that article — the Draft Analysis from 1997-2003 — that interests me most.
You’ll note, first of all, that those are the years immediately preceding the arrival of one Jarmo Kekalainen in the Blues’ organ-I-zation. Kekalainen did conduct the 2003 Draft, his first with the Blues, and (arguably) the best NHL player from the 1997-2003 listing — David "Chuck Norris" Backes — came from that draft.
Jackman and McClement are the only pre-Kekalainen picks from that listing who are still making an impact with the Blues, and another of Kekalainen’s first picks with the Blues in 2003 (Stempniak) was turned into two impact NHL players (Steen and Colaiacovo) in a trade that looks more and more every day like an absolute steal for Larry Pleau.
Finally, how deep is this organization now that a guy with 44 goals, and on pace for a 100-point season in what may well be the best junior league in the world, can just barely crack the top ten in a prospects list? The future is very bright here in the Mound City.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://www.tomorrowsblues.net
by Tomorrows Blues on Feb 25, 2009 2:18 PM CST reply actions

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