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Putting Dallas Win In Perspective For Blues

After the Blues pulled of a thrilling, exhilerating and somewhat convincing 3-1 win Thursday night at Dallas, Gallagher and I decided to trade some e-mails and turn it into a post. Below is a screen grab of the telecast on FSN. On the Blues sign on the left, look for a sticker with a certain drooling hockey player logo.

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Yeah, that was pretty cool. Thanks fellas.

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Brad Lee: So I heard somewhere that Oshie is the future. But beyond that, it’s honestly amazing the Blues are in this position, just three points out of the final playoff spot. The last two seasons the Blues have tried to get into the playoff conversation. And each year it’s been a short talk. The Blues have been pretenders, a team just good enough to get noticed but not truly dangerous. Not this year.
 
First difference with this team right now at this point of the season: the forecheck. It’s tenacious. They keep coming in waves. And when you see guys like Brad Boyes following the lead of David Backes and Brad Winchester and TJ Oshie, you know it’s infectious.

Sean Gallagher: Infectious like my rash. At this point, Oshie could rape the mayor under the Arch during the VP Fair and still probably get a key to the city like two weeks later. Slay would still be all bitter, but you know he'd have that patented fake/forced smile on his mug. You know the one, in the business it's called The Gary Bettman.
 
But seriously, how many times did your heart stop during that flurry during the third period when the Stars had like 52 shots in 52 seconds?

Star-divide

BL: Every time the Stars hit the post, I thought it was going in. They had 42 shots, but that doesn't count the crossbars or posts. Goalie Chris Mason was breathless after one of the exchanges. His heart was definitely stopping.
 
In the post-game interview, Jim "The Cat" Hayes asked Oshie about being reunited with linemates David Perron and Patrik Berglund. He said he was happy to be back playing with them.
 
"When we’re playing good, it’s fun. Sometimes we’re not going like we should be. But tonight it was fun going back with them."

SG: Best part of the interview is when Teej was asked, do you like playing with those guys? Most pros will say, "I'll play with whomever coach thinks I should play with" or "I just try to go out and play hard and work with whoever else is out there." (And yeah, that premise assumes that professional athletes know when to use 'whom' instead of 'who' but whatever.)
 
The Osh? That kid isn't taking the easy road. Do you like playing with those guys?
 
"Yes, I do."
 
The kid gives us another reason to love him almost every single game. He never takes a shift off, he can bury the sick goal, he can freight-train a guy. He plays the pee pee, he plays the kill. And yes, he can rape the mayor if he feels like it. But it's strictly a power thing.
 
Whenever Backes wants to stop being this team's Chuck Norris, the Teej will gladly accept the title. Speaking of which, at what point does the team break the rivets off of the C on Brewer's chassis and make Backes the captain of the Blues?

BL: It will be interesting to see if Brewer is ready to come back at the start of next season. There are reports on the Interwebs that Brewer has stopped skating because of lingering pain after his back surgery earlier this season. Who knows when or if he'll be ready to play again. So I would think a captaincy change could come as early as the fall.
 
It is weird that this team is showing a ton of heart and determination on the ice without their captain. Sure he's around off the ice, but I would doubt he's traveling. How important is having a strong captain on the team when they can do this without him? There are emerging leaders like Backes, Oshie but also Jay McClement. And how big a role does Keith Tkachuk have on this team. He easily has the biggest personality on the team. He's accomplished the most and is an acknowledged big mouth. They trade him, they risk fucking up the team chemistry big time.
 
Right here, right now, what do you think the Blues should do at the deadline?

SG: I'm as caught up in the playoff race as anyone. I'm as excited about watching these guys play as anyone.I'd love to see them get into the second season as much as anyone.
 
But it isn't about just this year. This is about the franchise and building it to become a dynasty. Getting slaughtered in five games by the Sharks can teach the youngsters a few lessons. What does it teach Tkacuk?
 
If the best offer the Blues get for No. 7 is a 3rd round pick and a future third-liner kind of prospect, you keep Tkachuk. If someone offers a high pick and/or a promising prospect, you do it.

Again, it's easy to get caught up in the playoff chase; we all want it to happen. But what happens when we get there? I'd rather be better set to demolish opponents in three years and beyond than to be 'hoping for a miracle' this year. You never know, they might get the best of both worlds anyway if you trade away Tkachuk and/or some other expensive vets (Hinote, I see you hiding back there).
 
Color me unsurprised if the Blues make trades and then try to spin the "we can still make the playoffs" story. That's what I'd do.

BL: I love Ron Caron. The man had balls in the front office that have been unmatched in St. Louis sports history. And I think he would be afraid to make a trade right now.
 
Ok, that was bullshit. But I am convincing myself that Tkachuk isn't going anywhere, primarily because of the no trade clause. So he'll be here. They may try to add a guy. You and I have talked about the cash flow over there at 14th and Clark. You know they could use a couple big paydays where the games are sold out, the ticket prices are increased and the beer is flowing. The business side of the game has to enter into the equation at some point.
 
And John Davidson said it in that conference call we wrote about. He wants to give the fans and the players on the team hope that they can make the playoffs now. With the way this team forechecks and plays defense, who knows what would happen.
 
I'm not sure when you adopted the prospect guy mentality, but I think a playoff spot would be huge for this franchise and the fanbase. The Rams suck. The Cardinals could be better, but they're far from a lock for the playoffs. Go after it, man. 
 
Last topic from me. Phoenix lost a huge game at Nashville tonight. They have to be upset at the loss here in St. Louis on Tuesday. What happens in the desert Saturday night? Other than Janet putting money on St. Louis. Allegedly.

SG: Dude, you're pretending like Phoenix cares about anything. The Phoenix/Winnipeg franchise is the Chicago Cubs of hockey. The only difference is that the Cubs actually won a championship. Back before the NHL even existed, but still. The organizational mentality is a crushing wave of negativity. They play in front of an empty arena at home, they get no media coverage and their best defenseman got the shit beat out of him by Matt Walker. The Coyotes are a weak team in a franchise history of flawed teams and even Gretzky himself, captain of multiple teams but never known for his rah-rah speeches and "when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor" motivation can't save this team.

Their terrible road trip is a turning point and they'll be battling the Avs for dead last in the West before this is over. Blues roll saturday. Book it.

BL: Oh my God, I hope there are no players who read this thing. They'll be in a Scottsdale establishment until the sun rises Saturday morning. They get two points, that's all I care about. And yes, I'll be drinking heavily.

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That picture absolutely reeks of awesomeness...

I am unashamedly stealing that picture to go in the banner of my personal “Tomorrow’s Blues” site.

Just so y’all know.

B.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://www.tomorrowsblues.net

by Tomorrows Blues on Feb 27, 2009 8:54 AM CST reply actions  

Great win Blues

TJ Oshie is THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This game reminded me of the first Blues game I ever went to at the Scott Trade center when the Blues beat the Stars in OT. That game was high scoring and I remember one blues fan had a shirt on that day saying “WE MESS WITH TEXAS”.

  

Here in Indiana all us Blues fans got the Blues for the Blues and the NHL.

Detroit suck Chicago swallows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by PatsR18*andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Feb 27, 2009 9:51 AM CST reply actions  

Good Stuff

But I didn’t see the cheap shot coming at the Cubs, that stung me a little.

However, it appears as if TJ just sold his 1/2 million break pads with that goal last night and his effort throughout this season has been tremendous. I hope my kids will see him play for the note in the distant future.

Keep Ketchup (my fiancee’s nickname), we have enough prospects.

Its a funny story actually.

by Wad on Feb 27, 2009 10:09 AM CST reply actions  

nice Tommy Boy reference

by Dooks on Feb 27, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Yah

I said earlier in the season that I thought his nickname should be tommy boy, due to energy, and the fact I thought he was going to turn out really well.

But then I saw someone came up with the Oshie-Wan, which is probably my favorite…

Its a funny story actually.

by Wad on Feb 27, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice to know...

…I’m not the only Cubs fan who also cheers for the Blues…

I missed the sticker when watching the game last night, but glad to see it…need to get FSN to zoom in closer on it…not enough people have been exposed to the Fuck Detroit mindset.

Proudly waving the Cubbie Blue from Northern Missouri! GO CUBS GO!

by Tater01 on Feb 27, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Sticker

I actually saw that before reading the article…excellent.
Now the big question is, where can I get one of them fancy dancy stickers?

by DanGNR on Feb 27, 2009 10:48 AM CST reply actions  

We gave those out a couple years ago.

I actually need to get some more printed up.

SWYD

by gallagher on Feb 27, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Hats...again...

Cause right now…we are men without hats…

Boo…I know…booo…..

by DanGNR on Feb 27, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh Lord no.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

"The world is getting to be such a dangerous place, a man is lucky to get out of it alive." -- W.C. Fields

by Donut King on Feb 27, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions  

You're too funny, Milo.

Just when I was trying to FORGET the 80’s.

/No, seriously. Hilarious!

"The world is getting to be such a dangerous place, a man is lucky to get out of it alive." -- W.C. Fields

by Donut King on Feb 28, 2009 12:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Childhood Trauma made up some foam logo pucks, too

But he must be mad or something because he doesn’t really come around here anymore. I don’t think he was too happy about us transitioning to the network.

SWYD

by gallagher on Feb 27, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

SBN Skynet does that to people.

I like to think of GT readers as the type who need to drop “off the grid” every now and then to avoid the shadow government.

Lighthouse Hockey: SBN's New York Islanders blog with hip issues.

by Dominik on Feb 27, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

or to detox from their internet addiction.

Let's go Blues!!!

by Milo. on Feb 27, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

That's too bad

I enjoyed what CT brought to the site.

How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige

by Dan. on Feb 27, 2009 9:50 PM CST up reply actions  

There was also talk of patches at one point.

I’d like to do those. Like our t-shirts, they’d be sold at our cost just to get them out to people that want them.

SWYD

by gallagher on Feb 27, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Patches, man patches.

Sew-on like a captain’s “C” to show our allegiance to the four letter words.

Let's go Blues!!!

by Milo. on Feb 27, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude...

I’ve been checking Rina-wear for those FOREVER. I’d love to sew one onto my jersey.

How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige

by Dan. on Feb 27, 2009 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I am stalking the team down to Florida next week.... I'm gonna need a good sized SLGT logo too.

"Brad Winchester playing on a line with Perron and Berglund is like the fat kid who you invite to play one day because you didn't have enough skaters, yet you don't have the heart to tell them to leave the next few times you play. Damn you Andy Murray." -Author Unknown

by -DJ- on Feb 27, 2009 11:20 AM CST reply actions  

What they need to do is...

…take a leak on the Alamo before leaving town!

by JGB on Feb 27, 2009 12:11 PM CST reply actions  

I hear Pronger is coming

And I’ve had the feeling turning in my gut for a few weeks.

I’m not sure about it. He’d definitely help. But I’me afraid of the cost. Judging by Anaheim’s last trade they are expecting to make another trade to recoup the lost wingers. Especially the kid they traded who has a lot of potential. So I see this and the hints from JD that there is a trade in the works.

My fear is we trade some of these incredible talents we have coming our way. But if we get rid of say McKee at the same time it gets interesting.

You know how I feel about Walt. But maybe…maybe if he had a shot at a Cup here he’d make me eat my words. I hope to dear god he’d make me eat my words.

But I’mm expecting if the Blues win Saturday and beat Detriot we will be adding at least a player. We will need to bring Legace back up to backup and in case of injury but it’s well known he’ll be grabbed up.

What to do what to do.

by Henry Miller's Used Penis on Feb 27, 2009 12:30 PM CST reply actions  

You know how I feel about Walt.

I don’t think we’re very clear on that point. Oh, and I never really got how you felt about the Dutchie trade either.

Let's go Blues!!!

by Milo. on Feb 27, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah I reacted emotionally to the trade.

But then again while Steen has played a great role for us he is what I said he would be…a heart breaker in a sense. Not so much here but man that kid has some moves and ability and he seems to hold a lot of it back. Yet at the same time he does his job effectively so I do not have any real complaints.

Cola is hurt. That was what scared me about him. I wanted him on our team the moment I heard the Blues were inquiring about him. I think Dutchie was solid here. I think people expected tooo much out of him. We certainly miss the extra offense he added.

But in the end it was agreat trade. Props to JD.

But thanks for the sarcasm. I also rent myself out as scape goat. I’ll be doing it again for you in nine months when I go to Baghdad yet again.

by Henry Miller's Used Penis on Feb 27, 2009 11:16 PM CST up reply actions  

But thanks for the sarcasm.

No problem. It’s about the only thing I do well.

I also rent myself out as scape goat. I’ll be doing it again for you in nine months when I go to Baghdad yet again.

Thanks for going there to protect smart asses like me. Make sure to drop in here when you get the opportunity. Be sure to spread the “Fuck Detroit” wherever you go..

Let's go Blues!!!

by Milo. on Feb 27, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Great post-game, guys

I’ll never look at Slay the same way again.

It’s great to see the rebuild finally coming together. Boyes, TJ, Berg, Perron, Backes — and EJ and Petrangelo next year … how long has it been since this many Blues were that exciting?

But gotta be sober: I think if they’re serious about becoming elite rather than just in the playoffs, they need to accept any solid offers for Walt: A first and/or a sure prospect. If they somehow make the playoffs and Walt has another poor postseason, it will not be pretty. Give him a shot at glory with someone who has a chance.

Lighthouse Hockey: SBN's New York Islanders blog with hip issues.

by Dominik on Feb 27, 2009 12:36 PM CST reply actions  

Walt must stay

Everyone discussing trading Tkachuk as a this year vs. the future is missing the point. If the Note makes the playoffs this year it will be a bonus, and a huge boost to next years outlook. But Walt needs to stay here for NEXT year, when he will have a far bigger impact on this team than any picks or prospects they can get for him. Right now, this year, Walt is playing better for this team that at any point since he arrived. Maybe not in the numbers, but he’s crucial to the PP, his forecheck and backchecking have been great, and his leadership in the room is valuable. Everyone is ready to give Backes the C, and rightfully so, but Walt has been one of his strongest influences. Keep Tkachuk!!!

by ILLRW on Feb 27, 2009 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

Agree

But even if we traded Walt he could come back next year as he is a free agent after this year. I believe anyways.

That said I still want him here for the rest of the year.

Its a funny story actually.

by Wad on Feb 27, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly right.

He can pull the move that should be known as The St. Louis: trade a guy at the deadline, re-sign him in the summer.

SWYD

by gallagher on Feb 27, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

With all of the HoF discussion re: Walt

a sweetheart rental could bolster his HoF chances (“But, he’s never won a cup so he can’t be in the HoF”) and we could have him back fro the 09-10 season. It could benefit him in more ways than one.

Let's go Blues!!!

by Milo. on Feb 27, 2009 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm curious

How many teams haven’t learned that move, and how many more are still willing to pay the price and go with it anyway. I was thinking there was some summer fallout the last time the Blues pulled that manuever with Walt.

How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige

by Dan. on Feb 27, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

The "league" was pissed.

There was some discussion about banning the practice, but nothing has come of it yet. My guess is nothing will come of it in the future because it puts butts in seats.

Let's go Blues!!!

by Milo. on Feb 27, 2009 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

that goal was sick

Is there a link to the Oshie goal on vid yet?

SC

Lod

by Lodnod on Feb 27, 2009 7:37 PM CST reply actions  

Why yes...

Yes there is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6gBu5lN6v8

How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige

by Dan. on Feb 27, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Two words for that goal.

Motherfucking. Beautiful.

TEEEEEEEEEEEEJ!

"The world is getting to be such a dangerous place, a man is lucky to get out of it alive." -- W.C. Fields

by Donut King on Feb 28, 2009 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

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