Crazy Time For Blues Fans
Any fan who saw this team competing for the final playoff spot this close to the trade deadline is either lying or should go buy a powerball ticket. In the paper, on this site, on messageboards on other sites, the guys who run this place all said the season was over in late December and early January.
Gallager wrote on Dec. 29 about the issue of Blues fans hoping for the worst and doing some fan tanking. And then last night the Blues finished the evening three points out of the final spot. Amazing.
Let's get a few things out of the way and then we'll do some polling.
First, I think we should all be prepared to see Keith Tkachuk finish the season in St. Louis. No matter what you think of his career or his character or his physique, this Blues squad needs him. They need his big body and finishing skills on the power play. They need his voice in the dressing room. With his no trade clause, I don't see how they could move him.
We've gone on the record a couple times saying that we're not fans of the hockey rumor sites, especially any place that has to make shit up because people are paying for the information. But this little nugget is more interesting based on the context.
Over at ESPN The Web Site, Pierre LeBrun is blogging about the trade rumors. He leads off with Chris Pronger to St. Louis and says that the Bruins are no longer interested in the big elbow. Believe it or not, I don't care. But check out LeBrun's observation about the rumor:
That's pretty exciting stuff if you're a Blues fan. It tells you the front office believes the club is turning the corner and it's the right time to make this kind of deal. Obviously, Pronger, a former Blue, may end up elsewhere, or the Ducks may wait until the offseason to move him; but tell me you're not stunned to hear St. Louis is pursuing Pronger. Great stuff.
He's saying it's interesting that the Blues are coming back onto the league radar. And that is a very good thing, regardless of your thoughts on the prospect of Pronger returning to St. Louis.
Detroit comes to town on Tuesday. We're getting prepared for the madness. We expect and hope that this place could become a madhouse between now and Tuesday night. And we'll do our best to help make that happen.
We'll have more new stuff up later today.
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Davidson said that the three games before the deadline would determine Walt’s future here… we’ve won 2 of them, and he’s been a huge part of why.
He’s staying put, and I wouldn’t be surprised if we re-signed him or allowed him to retire a Blue.
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im pretty convinced tkachuk will be staying with us. im not as convinced david perron will, however.
I’d be pretty pissed if they gave up on a twenty year old who’s still figuring out how to be a consistent professional. Especially one who when playing with fire, and poise, can make an entire defense look like a bunch of mite players.
How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige
Perron isn't being moved.
All this supposed Murray/Perron drama is entirely rumor and heresay perpetuated by forum users (see: every third thread on Blues Talk. Murray knows the talent Perron possesses and he’s doing a stellar (though unpopular) job of making him realize it while building his character — which is definitely something a coach needs to do. And Perron isn’t dumb…he recognizes the ‘whys’ of Murray’s plan, and while I’m sure instinctively he wants to be out there on the ice more, he knows it’s his second year and he’s got a whole career to get his ice time.
If a trade is right, I suppose he could be traded, but not this year. And even if this Murray/Perron derision is true, I don’t think JD would let him go just to appease the coach (a la Moz with La Russa).
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
I would also be pissed if they traded Perron. Its his second season, and he’s got a lot of potential. It doesn’t make any sense to me. I don’t know what I would think about the Blues trading for Pronger. It would be exciting to have him, but what would we have to give up from him? We already have enough good D men coming up the next couple years anyway. I don’t think its time to start giving up prospects just yet. I’m all for KT staying here.
I don't think Pronger coming here is realistic anyway
Why would the Ducks upgrade a team that is chasing them? Even getting worked in 2 games in the playoffs brings in a significant amount of revenue…
Not afraid to nitpick
Pronger for Perron is a no vote here
Pronger always takes the worst penalty at the worst possible moment in critical games. He seems to have tamed down that shit in the past year or too but I still see him think of himself over team many times. No matter how good a D he is Pronger is not what you want in a close playoff game with all the marbles at stake.
Also Perron is going to be huge. He’s young now but I’ve seen him make passes already that NO ONE on the ice even expected. This fucks up D and goalies. The “Oh Shit” play/pass is what scores a lot of goals. Trust me on this one, Perron will be a sniper like Bossy when he gets a little stronger and gets Murray off his back.
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The Answer never gave up and ALWAYS believed even in creatine filled rages.
Famous words, “If you believe, then stand and fight”
I would not be pissed if Perron got traded. Look at him and Berglund (sp), they have stumbled when the going got hard and long (pun intended). Oshie, while hurt for a decent amount of time is playing like he is supercharged.
To me, this is an absolute result of character. Oshie will not light up the score sheets like a Perron in the future but he will be a shut down guy who’ll run over his mother to score a goal and BE CONSISTENT.
Character folks. I’ll take character until I’m blue in the dick.
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I'm afraid to take a stand in life, but...
I voted, “yes.” I can’t believe it, but I voted, “yes.” This team is unbelievable! I don’t know if I really feel that they’ll make it, but it’ll be close & I want the good juju out there from my & everyone else’s “yes” votes. Coach AM, just want to extend a thanks for (atleast from where we stand now) having me prepared to eat shit. The “BOP” or “Kid Line” seems to be getting coach’s message lately, which means if they tail off again, maybe they’ll understand what & why he’s doing what he’s doing & we are really getting some where then. I liked the Murray signing at first, then was starting to wonder, well this year has been so much fun. All those injuries, even before the season, and here we are. How can we be expected to go to work & school this week (with the deadline on Wed) or the following weeks with us so close, damn, if potential playoff tickets (or even just next years renewals) didn’t cost money, I’d say fuck it and stay on-line & watch the network all day for the rest of the season. LET’S GO BLUES!
there should be a law prohibiting schools from having midterms week on trade deadline week..
by nks on Mar 1, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
i voted no
but with reason. i was one of those that buried this team back in dec. so for me, this run has been somehow more awesome because they are defying my expectations. im afraid that if i start expecting to this team to win, it will be harder if they dont. so right now, i’m saying no but hoping they prove me wrong. go blues!
Guerin to Devils is my hunch
no other team has so much secrecy. I have a call into Lou but Satan said he was napping. If I get confirmation I’ll post up like a mofo.
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Satan has been napping all season long
How can you not score goals with Crosby?
Not afraid to nitpick
I voted they would fall short because I’m a huge pessimist
But the upside of that is that I wont be too disappointed if they don’t make it (I was expecting it) or I will be so elated that they made it in (a nice, unexpected surprise)
FUCK DETROIT IN EYEBALLS
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Yeah we have to keep the fat wonder unless....
We get an overwhelming offer. Because I don’t think he’s that big of a clog. There’s definitely some good chemistry in the locker room and I’m a firm believer in such things. This team has caught their momentum at the right time. It’s teams like the Blues that if they hook onto a spot scare the shit out of the top teams so that an upset is almost predetermined.
This is exciting. I thought they’d make it at the beginning of the season. Then after the fifth injury I thought no way besides we didn’t have naybody stopping pucks at the time.
Think of it, if any of the goaltenders played well early on when we scoring four and five goals a game we’d be in right now. Or if we didn’t choke in those two blown lead games we’d have 67pts right now. Jesus we have to pick those games up by going on a crazy great run.
by Henry Miller's Used Penis on Mar 2, 2009 12:58 AM CST reply actions
I refuse to take a stand because....
I’m still snakebit from last year when we starting selling those ticket packages back in January or whatever it was and the collapse followed shortly afterwards. We tempted fate last year and it bit us in the ass. Call me paranoid or whatever you want but I won’t mention that words in regards to our team.
'I would not be bothered if we lost every game as long as we won the league.'
MARK VIDUKA
This team reminds me of the 69 Mets a bit
Laughing stock of the league in the beginning. Then slowly they sorted their shit out and made the playoffs. The rest is history. The left the whole world shaking their heads and saying “No fucking way”.
Life is relevant. You can put your hands on a hot stove and a fraction of a second seems like hours. Yet you can put your hands on a hot woman and hours seem to turn into seconds.
Pronger coming back?
There isn’t a deal that could be put together that would make me (and hopefully JD and Dave C.) happy.
Pros:
Pronger is a legitimate #1 defenseman. He still passes the puck well, is a physical presence in the defensive zone, and can handle the point on the power play better than any of our current defensemen.
Cons:
He would cost too much. Adding 6.25M to the team’s budget, especially in a year where the salary cap is expected to go down isn’t the smartest thing in the world. Tying up over $12M in two players on a mid-market team isn’t good economics. Expensive long-term (relatively) rental.
What Anaheim would want. Who the heck do you think Anaheim would take not named Perron and/or Pietrangelo? Just how badly to you want to drain the supply of young, inexpensive talent the team has accumulated just for a one- or two-round appearance in the playoffs?
There’s no Al MacInnis to hold him to account. When Pronger was here, they gave him the “C” to make him mature, to keep him from taking dumb penalties, and force him to be a large presence on the ice. Off the ice, the locker room “C” was clearly MacInnis. Without such an established hall-of-fame defenseman on his ass all the time to make him be better, we probably won’t get an older version of the guy who won the Hart and MVP one year. (Yes, he was THAT good that year, primarily because of the chances he broke up BEFORE they developed-it was awesome to watch.)
No, I think that for better or worse, you have to keep this bunch intact. That includes the guy that Chris D. hates, because from everything I’ve heard, he’s a big presence in the locker room because he’s an old warrior in a room full of kids and they do look up to him. So he’s not the guy who scored 50 early in his career. He’s still productive on the ice, but he’s not going to be your #1 scorer, and he’s relatively cheap.
The only change I can see this team making is if the biggest difference-maker on the team gets injured. (Name withheld due to superstition).
hell, if we're going to do a Blues reunion tour
… bring back Billy G or Lappy …. supposedly, they’re both being shopped around right now. Pronger is too little (albeit he has another year under contractt) for too much. Let’s stick with what we’ve got.
.... formerly "Tim" of StLouisGameTime.com
by CrossCheckRaise on Mar 2, 2009 10:06 PM CST up reply actions

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