Keith Tkachuk Remains A Blue-UPDATED
Well the clock has struck and there are no reports that Keith Tkachuk is a former Blues player...again. But as we learned the year Dennis Wideman was sent to Boston for Brad Boyes, trades can get announced for several minutes after the deadline. The last trade to come across was at 2:08 p.m. CST, eight minutes after the deadline.
UPDATE: Jeremy Rutherford says the Blues were not overwhelmed by any offers for Tkachuk and elected to keep the veteran.
I'm still here? Wicked awesome.
According to Jeremy Rutherford, it kind of looks like Tkachuk wasn't getting moved around noon.
12:14 pm: Blues forward Keith Tkachuk left Scottrade Center a few minutes ago. I asked him if he’s been asked to waive his no-trade clause, Tkachuk said flatly: "No."
So let's just assume (and we'll update this if news changes) that Tkachuk is still a member of the Blues organization. I think it was about the only thing the franchise could do and still maintain credibility with the players in the dressing room and the fans in the stands. Even though they got trounced last night, the season isn't over. Trade Tkachuk, you wave the white flag.
Of course there will always be a segment of fans who say build for the longterm, get some prospects or picks for him. I don't think that opinion is wrong, but I think it ignores the reality of the situation for the Blues were they can't exactly tap out like a bloodied MMA fighter. They have games to play, games they will try to win draft status be damned. Winning the last week tied their hands.
So what say you commenters? Happy he's still here? Disappointed there isn't another second or third round pick in their back pocket come draft time? Tell us in the comments.
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Ask me again in a couple hours....
….I’m still trying to get over that Andy Wozniewski is gone…..
"Brad Winchester playing on a line with Perron and Berglund is like the fat kid who you invite to play one day because you didn't have enough skaters, yet you don't have the heart to tell them to leave the next few times you play. Damn you Andy Murray." -Author Unknown
Trade Tkachuk, you wave the white flag.
Exactly. To see this played out in real-life terms …. see PHX
.... formerly "Tim" of StLouisGameTime.com
hell .... if Walt celebrates
Tim Horton’s might expand into the St Louis market …
.... formerly "Tim" of StLouisGameTime.com
by CrossCheckRaise on Mar 4, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
I approve of this.
People wonder why . . .
/looks at own avatar
Oh.
"The world is getting to be such a dangerous place, a man is lucky to get out of it alive." -- W.C. Fields
its good to see..
a player allowed to stay here who wants to stay here.
He said he wanted to win the cup and he wanted to do it here. I know hes getting up there in age, but hes had a great career and the least we can do is give him a chance to win it here (assuming we resign him)
Story is updated
Rutherford says Blues not overwhelmed by any offers for Big Walt. So they kept him. Link is now in the story.
www.stlouisgametime.com
They did the right thing, IMO...
I’d rather no deal than a stupid one (and that’s not just in terms of players lost, but the damage it does in the locker room)…one game should not cause a change in your philosophy…as you said, Brad, there are games to be won, so lets play the schedule and see where this takes us.
So how soon...
…until Walt’s season-ending injury?
I used to live for deadline day
The excitement of meat on the burner. The thought of ditching someone whose time as a blue needed to end – (I’m lookin’ at you, Sister Christian). The idea that maybe we’d get a good return for the future.
But I honestly was hoping they’d stand pat this year. I’m glad they did. This team is moving in the right direction. The management realized that and is giving the chemistry a chance to titrate.
"Meat on the burner" . . . .
Am I to presume this was spoken in your mind in a strong French-Canadian accent like one certain GM of our fine hockey club?
"The world is getting to be such a dangerous place, a man is lucky to get out of it alive." -- W.C. Fields
Zee meat is awn zee beyrner
I don’t know. Is the guy you’re thinking of bald with a tendency of trading key players from the heart of the lineup for a bunch of enigmatic crazies and scrubs?
Why, of course!
I’m still wondering why I liked that guy so much. Probably because he didn’t give a flying rat’s ass about what anyone thought of him.
"The world is getting to be such a dangerous place, a man is lucky to get out of it alive." -- W.C. Fields
I think the Blues are a classic tweener...
…they are not really in a position to be a buyer or a seller… so they might have been either, but only if they were able to fleece somebody. But very few teams looked willing to add contracts.
I get the feeling it is gonna get ugly for UFA this summer.
But Strickland reported that he was traded, so it will happen, right?
In other news, Strickland also reported that this weekend isn’t daylight savings time.
Give the PD a tad of credit, for once. It was reported in their forums, where they have no control of the content, that Strick. said that Walt was leaving.
I wonder what it is like to be part of a website where the people running it have no control over what is said in the message boards. Any ideas, Brad or Sean?
i wasnt referencing anything in particular ...
gordo mentions hockeybuzz regularly in his online column, bernie sites strickland rumors and the round two feature usually has strickland when the topic involves the blues.
Joe, your first mistake...
…is mentoning "Gordo," "Bernie" and "hockey" in the same sentence.
Jeff Gordon and Bernie Miklasz are just about as clueless as Strickland, who at least has the excuse of being nothing but a wannabe who gets played like a Stradivarius any time the Blues want to float a rumor and see how it’ll fly with the public.
The Post-Disgrace has one guy — Jeremy Rutherford — who knows diddly-squat about hockey. My wife has learned more about hockey from living with me for 17 years than Gordon, Miklasz and that idiot Bryan Burwell all know… together.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://www.tomorrowsblues.net
by Tomorrows Blues on Mar 4, 2009 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
Right non-move
The price for rentals has gone down. Given the bubble situation the Blues are in and the picks they’ve already collected, this move should carry more weight with fans and players than whatever junk the Bruins were tossing out. Blues fans have suffered enough. It’s time for at least a semblance of a playoff-push party.
That said, for the right price, I would have moved him anyway. But it sounds like Boston was “pushing hard” for Tkachuk while not really offering much at all. If the Bruins’ backup plan for a winger was somewhere between the two depth forward prospects they sent for Recchi (plus a 2nd) and a crapola platter for Guerin, then I doubt they were trying that hard to land Walt. If that hallucination is even half-way correct, good on JD and the gang for not biting.
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Lashoff is a defense prospect. Dom...
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://www.tomorrowsblues.net
by Tomorrows Blues on Mar 4, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
Whoops – thanks! The appropriate staff will be taken out and shot.
Lighthouse Hockey: SBN's New York Islanders blog with hip issues.
Happy
Everything depended on what was offered.
Let’s take our chances with what’s in our own cupboard.
I'm happy with this...
Now, if you’re going to be Walt-focused and not Blues focused, the question is this: does he re-sign with us for another year or two after this (by all accounts) expectation blowing upping season, or does he retire after the year is over.
I like what we did at the deadline – minimal. My boyfriend mentioned he heard (and I don’t know how true this is – I’m not calling him a liar, but I don’t know where he heard it from) that we were in the running for Pronger (or we WERE the running for Pronger) but they had asked for Oshie, a few prospects, and some picks, and we said hell no. If this is true, good call by Davidson – thank you for not giving away our future and rendering yet another Game Time wallpaper null and void.
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. --Homer Simpson
Concerning that last part of your message.
YES INDEED. Thank you John Davidson for not giving away Oshie for an aging defenseman known for taking stupid penalties! That guy at the Dallas game the other night had the shit right, “OSHIE IS THE FUTURE.”
How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige
While I'm glad the team stood pat...
obviously, I want the Blues to be smart about this…it’s nice to have all these prospects, but they ALL ain’t gonna play in St. Louis…I think I saw JD state just that in some interview over the last day or so…you are never going to have a completely home grown team, and at some point, some of these prospects are going to have to be moved to get the team over the hump, hopefully in a year or two.
I don’t want the Blues to end up where I think the Cardinals are heading…you get so in love with the players you have drafted and developed, you don’t want to think about trading them away…having a shit-load of prospects is no good if some of them are not used to help the parent club get what it needs to win.
Agreed
But timing is everything. This year is not the time to pull the trigger on a deal like that. Soon, though, in the next 2-3 years, we’ll have to make some tough decisions like that.
.... formerly "Tim" of StLouisGameTime.com
by CrossCheckRaise on Mar 4, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed (twice?)
I don’t think JD will be shy about dealing when it’s time. He hasn’t been sentimental thus far with cutting people away. The fact that he even discussed trading youngsters today shocked me — ‘cause it’s not time yet — but also indicates that no one is untouchable. Except Oshie.
Lighthouse Hockey: SBN's New York Islanders blog with hip issues.
Oshie can go piss in an elevator
I like him as much as any REASONABLE Blues fan, but this man-love for him is getting unbearable. It’s funny how this town falls in love with gritty players, so a gritty player with talent has got to be the second-coming. Let’s see if he holds up with this intense play for a few seasons before we canonize him. Hard-nosed players are usually the first ones to rack up strings of injuries. Roenick never did (for some reason I can’t comprehend). If Oshie proves to have Roenick’s durability, it will be great. But he’s only in his first season and he missed part of it due to a what? That’s right. An injury. Again. I’m not looking for a reason to hate on him. Just cautioning people from getting too gooey for Teej until he earns it.
Also, learn to like pure skill guys. Please. Berglund is easily as “untouchable” as Oshie. Perron is not, but that doesn’t keep me from going “wow” when he makes one of his sweet passes or dangles. I swear. If Stubby Clapp played hockey for the Blues, some people would call him untouchable.
Just to clarify
I’m hopped up on caffiene and meds this morning, but I realize that rant I just posted sounds like something you’d see on the acursed STLtoday forums. I apologize for being less funny and more of a douchebag than usual.
Haha
No problem. My “Oshie = untouchable” was actually sarcastic, referencing the intense man-love for him. Obviously that didn’t quite come across :P
He is a solid player and looks like a good glue guy, but I agree — the thing that will put the Blues over is elite skill guys, which he is not (yet?) with solid characters, which he is. Fun to watch, yes. Untouchable? Hell no. My reluctance about trading any youngsters was the notion of packaging several of them (and/or a 1st). This non-contending club is nowhere near in position to be doing that yet, for Pronger or anyone else.
Lighthouse Hockey: SBN's New York Islanders blog with hip issues.
For Much of Recent Blues History
The question was talent OR hard worker …. When the rare event occurs where its NOT an either/or situation, the man-crush is on. The dude is the real deal, from what I’ve seen at the games.
If Stubby Clapp played hockey for the Blues, some people would call him untouchable.
Yeah, but for the jersey sales alone.
.... formerly "Tim" of StLouisGameTime.com
Actually with the name Clapp
I wouldn’t touch him. So yeah, i guess he would be untouchable. Now if he was a chick …

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