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NHL Draft Day Two: Draft Day Thread

Warning: This is only for the hardcore! If you find yourself spending your Saturday commenting in this post like some sort of maniac then you probably have some sort of hockey problem. To steal a line from The Onion, you're like a chocoholic, only for hockey. And probably alcohol. That's not scientifically proven, just a hunch we have based on our own studies in the field. The 'field' being 1) down at the DrinkScotch Center and 2) our own homes.

But whatever; that's for later in some sort of beachy, breezy, court-mandated 60-day stay at some recovery center. What's important for now is that in the middle of the summer, in the middle of a blazing St. Louis 103-degree, 278% humidity day, we have hockey coverage that starts at 9 a.m. and runs until 5 p.m. So what if most of it is blather and drivel? It's our blather and drivel. We know what they mean when they say something retarded like, "He's a boom-or-buster everyone! He could be Mike Green or he could be Lars Jonsson!"

Never mind that Mike Green should hardly be the benchmark for, well, much of anything at this point or even that Lars Jonsson is ridiculous reference point. Here's what we're talking about: There's lots of good young players left and the Blues have been downright silly at selecting talented kids in the middle rounds (Aaron Palushaj, Brett Sonne, Jake Allen, Ben Bishop, Jay McClement, David Fucking Backes, Philip McRae and others leap to mind) as well as in the rounds beyond (Roman Polak, he of the sick NHL skills, neither Roman nor Polish ancestry and righteous Twitter feed, for one).

So what are we saying here? This is what we're saying here: Bring it on you bastards. If you've ever needed a reason to drink in the middle of the day or to call a timeout from the weekend joy of heading over to Home Depot for some flooring after you make a run to Bed, Bath & Beyond, this is it.

Plus, you never know if the Blues will find a way to draft Cammi Granato's step-son, mini-Parm. If it happens and you miss it, you know you'll be pissed.

If you need a doctor's note to slip to your spouse or boss, drop us a line. We don't want to say too much, but we got our hands on a prescription pad when we were in Canada last month and that bitch comes in handy.

This is your Draft Day Thread.

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It will be airing on the NHL network

Though if its like last year it will be infuriating since you can hear picks being made in the background but they never talk about them except updates every 20 minutes or so and a ticker at the bottom. They need to steal a page from ESPNs draft coverage and at least show on screen who was taken as they are selected.

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

God willing

we’ll find ourselves another David Backes today. Or someone of similar talent levels, but not nessecarily similar skills or position.

I need a drink.

Barret Jackman is my hero.

Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.

by BluesTiger on Jun 27, 2009 8:59 AM CDT reply actions  

First trade

Bouwmeester traded to calgary for leopold and 3rd rounder

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 9:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Nooooooooooooooo

Ferraro gets picked by Red Wings

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 9:08 AM CDT reply actions  

NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"The world is getting to be such a dangerous place, a man is lucky to get out of it alive." -- W.C. Fields

by Donut King on Jun 27, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

NHL.com

Has picks listed quicker, NHL network coverage can’t keep up, this is moving quick.

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 9:11 AM CDT reply actions  

“struggles with consistency with the puck” looks like we picked up another wideman.

by bzgea2 on Jun 27, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions  

The write up isnt to kind for him. Sounds like he is a good shut down dman though.

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

also makes it sound like he cant skate for anything.

by bzgea2 on Jun 27, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

so they should be dipping down into the 300’s in terms of player rankings now right?

by bzgea2 on Jun 27, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

gahhh detroit took tatar! he was so good in the world juniors, and now that detroit took him at 60 he’s destined to be a star

by bzgea2 on Jun 27, 2009 9:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Brett Ponich was a surprise...

…not highly-ranked, and another defenseman. It’s looking like Jarmo & Co. are satisfied with the forward crop, and are looking to stock the blueline for possible future trades.

I’m finding it a little hard to believe that the Blues had Ponich as the BPA at 48th overall, with guys like Ryan, Panik, Rodin and Orlov still on the board.

B.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 27, 2009 9:41 AM CDT reply actions  

I guess..

If you look at the forward crop, we are very young there with lots of talent and maybe their thought process is we need to start thinking of replacing Jackman, Brewer, and McKee. If this guy is a solid shut down guy like Salvador was, this may end up being a good pick. The problem with evaluating now is you won’t actually know how good they will be for a few years.

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

ehh, theres still something to be said about taking the 151st ranked player at 48th

by bzgea2 on Jun 27, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Again though..

3 Years from now, these rankings will mean nothing. Remember, Alex Daigle was rated #1 overall.

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's what McKeens has to say about Ponich...

Brett Ponich (2009), D, Portland

from January 2009. I’ve highlighted the more interesting notes, both good and bad.

Gigantic defender still needs to add some meat to his 6-foot-7, 205-pound frame .. fairly heavy slap shot when he gets all of it .. not the next Paul Coffey when it comes to stickhandling , however possesses pretty decent feet for a player his size .. partnered with Troy Rutkowski (2010 eligible) .. passes are not always on the mark which puts the intended target in a poor position to do much with it .. has the ability to carry up the ice and elude a checker or two .. will pinch in from the point .. works hard along the boards for loose pucks .. not surprisingly sports a long wingspan which helps him create turnovers .. a regular on the penalty kill .. chosen by Winter Hawks in the second round (30th overall) of the 2006 WHL Bantam Draft. (38gp, 1-8-9)

My former hometown team (1988-1990) was, unfortunately, a measly 19-48-3-2 for 43 points in 72 WHL games this year, and had a goals for / goals against ratio of 176 to 288. Da Hawks also had the worst PK in the league, allowing 94 goals in 366 chances for a 74.3% kill ratio.

Not surprisingly, Ponich’s plus-minus was terrible (minus-19), but hardly the worst on the team.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 27, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just a reminder...

…if you’re not a subscriber to McKeens, clicking that link probably won’t do much for you. I only included it as a citation of my source.

B.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 27, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

6'7" eh?

Sounds like Jarmo is trying to find a Chara in the rough.

by SouthernBlue on Jun 27, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Crap... Hanowski's gone, to PIT at 63rd overall...

I was really hoping the Blues would snag that kid.

Still holding out hope that Mike Antonovich saw something in Anders Lee that he really liked.

B.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 27, 2009 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

taking a defenseman but not the best available defenseman seems to be the m.o of the blues this draft, lets see if that follows in the 3rd.

by bzgea2 on Jun 27, 2009 9:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Hey SLGTPD

Is there any other links than the incredibly behind NHL.com that lists who picked who, the Blues have probably made their pick by now, and I wanna know who it is.

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 9:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm following at NHL.com, and it seems to be moving pretty fast...

…Blues on the clock now.

B.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 27, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

tsn, maybe? still 3 picks away in round 3

by bzgea2 on Jun 27, 2009 9:59 AM CDT reply actions  

no idea, but sounds like the khl could be an issue from first glance

by bzgea2 on Jun 27, 2009 10:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Ha... Andronov.

We had him as a fourth-rounder, but he’s a guy I liked a lot. He’s alreayd 20, so can play in Peoria next year if the Blues can get him signed.

His presence might help entice Lemtyugov back over here, and entice Nikita Nikitin to give it a go. Adding those three players to Peoria’s lineup would greatly increase the Rivs’ skill level for 2009-10.

B.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 27, 2009 10:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice job on the pontification

If we can get him over here, this could be a good pick.

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's a lot of hope.

Kind of shocked the Blues elect to go with a Russian despite all their trouble over the past four years with them. They keep going back home or not coming over here. In a draft without many picks it seems like a give a way since he has stated he does not intend to come to North America next season according to russianprospects.com.

by Henry Miller's Used Penis on Jun 27, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

AM Day Plan

Watching the draft with mixed emotions. Basically, I am not being drafted and I blame scouting and my former agent Slick Rick.

I need to go make some protein pancakes then off to the Answer Dungeon for circuit training then I’m headed to the pool to entice the ladies and work on my tan.

tonight- fairmount park motherfuckers. AM is getting paid!

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by Answer Man on Jun 27, 2009 10:10 AM CDT reply actions  

On to the 4th

I do like how the pace is quicker than the NFL draft. I don’t like not getting pick notices on NHL Network as they happen

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 10:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Waiting is boring

Can’t we have a lightning round or something?

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I wish I could rec this comment more than once.

Whoever it was that predicted this coverage would be ‘infuriating’ was dead-on.

by gallagher on Jun 27, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

So, its seems that we’re going for defensively minded people vs. offensively this draft.

Barret Jackman is my hero.

Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.

by BluesTiger on Jun 27, 2009 10:36 AM CDT reply actions  

No, Andronov is an offensive player... just not necessarily a goal-scorer.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 27, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK, another guy from out of left field... hold on...

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 27, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just remember

Jarmo knows what he’s doing….

Barret Jackman is my hero.

Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.

by BluesTiger on Jun 27, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

CRAP!!

Shattocks summer pastime is golf. NO CARTS, he can walk.

Do we have any sort of write up on him or anything? Like other than just stats some sort of analysis?

Barret Jackman is my hero.

Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.

by BluesTiger on Jun 27, 2009 10:47 AM CDT reply actions  

BTW

We don’t have a 5th rounder as of now, so he got time till we pick again

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 10:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Huh

Apparently the 27th pick in the 4th round was forfeited, does anyone have any info on what happened there? Also, it seems we are grabbing a lot from WHL, 2 this year and Sonne just off the top of my head.

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 10:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Ian Schultz, too...

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 27, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

The 'Dub is the best major junior league going, so I'm all for grabbing lots of guys from there...

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 27, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

RW, shoots R, 6-03, 190, born 02-03-90 in Salmon Arm, BC...

30-39-69 in 68 games for Kamloops (WHL) last year, minus-4, 82 PIM, 19 PP goals (cool), 2 SHG, 5 game-winners.

Obviously a power-play specialist, which is fine. Decent size. Second-line RW for Kamloops, Injured last year; 21 points (9 G, 12 A), 60 PIM in 41 GP. Supposed to be an average skater and sometimes late getting back into plays. Good passing skills, has some slick moves.

Per McKeens, “the knock on Shattock is that scouts would like to see him compete more for the puck and use his size and strength to dominate, something that he has not shown yet on a consistent basis.”

Maybe another breakout, Sonne-type player in waiting?

Two Euros, two Western League guys for the Blues so far… ba da ba ba ba, I’m lovin’ it…

B.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 27, 2009 10:54 AM CDT reply actions  

"Last Year" meaning 2007-08...

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 27, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is the type of forward I thought the Blues would go for.

They lack some depth with big forwards. Ian Schultz’s game was said to have improved while Livingstone was said to have treaded water slash gone back a step.

by Henry Miller's Used Penis on Jun 27, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great name for a town . . . Salmon Arm.

Not kidding, either . . . that’s just awesome!

Solid numbers too, it appears. And big.

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by Donut King on Jun 27, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Barret Jackman is my hero.

Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.

by BluesTiger on Jun 27, 2009 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

We are on to the 5th

Remember, Blues do not have a pick here.

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Yet.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 27, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK, guys, I have to go to work today...

…I’ll be back later with more stuff. Keep up the good work in my absence.

B.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 27, 2009 10:59 AM CDT reply actions  

what sites do you get your info from

So I can throw shit up for our next pick

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

McKeens, International Scouting Services (print), NHL.com, league websites, team websites...

Wherever I can find it.

B.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 27, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damn

was hoping you had some super secret blog you went to or something

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

This one

I know that doesn’t help you, but this is my source for all that. This and Silver Seven anyway

Barret Jackman is my hero.

Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.

by BluesTiger on Jun 27, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions  

On to the 6th round

Blues have the 17th pick here

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

I thought this shindig started at 10?

Not that I would’ve been on time anyway.

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by Classic17 on Jun 27, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

JD interview (NHL Network coverage)

Anyone see it? The usual stuff about the draft, but they asked him about Adam Oates and the Hall of Fame. He’s on the committee so he can’t talk about it, but he said you have to consider him.

Thoughts?

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by Dominik on Jun 27, 2009 12:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Info from the Blues website

DAVID SHIELDS – (6th Round, 168th Overall)

    * Shields spent the last two seasons with the Erie Otters of the Ontario Hockey League, the same team where Brad Boyes playes junior hockey.
    * He is a 6-foot-3, 216-pound defenseman.
    * In 61 games last season, Shields had one goal and 16 assists.
    * Shields was born in Rochester, NY on Jan. 27, 1991.

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I apologize..

but I can’t seem to find any analysis on this guy, just stats and numbers.

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where Boyes playes. Nice.

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by Classic17 on Jun 27, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

7th round has begun

No picks for the Blues, but I will follow it just in case we make a trade.

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Blues make trade with Philly

Select center Maxwell Tardy from Duluth East

Info on trade and player forthcoming

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Apparantly it was Nashville's pick

They traded a 2010 7th rounder

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by Doc Whiskey on Jun 27, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice job, Doc.

Thanks for jumping in the breach with the info on these guys. We’ll have more info on them up later today.

by gallagher on Jun 27, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Off topic on the draft

Holy shit did I not know about Polak’s twitter feed of DOOM.

Certainly more tail than head. Let’s hope for more head.

I didn’t figure him for a ladies man.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 27, 2009 1:25 PM CDT reply actions  

That Polak Twitter feed is about the funniest shit I've seen in a long time.

Whoever started that is just . . . fucking hilarious!

"The world is getting to be such a dangerous place, a man is lucky to get out of it alive." -- W.C. Fields

by Donut King on Jun 27, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Missed it.

Oh well, I would’ve been totally fucking hoarked had I been here to see Son Of Chicken Parm get selected by the Dead Things. So now, not only do I have to HATE the guy, but by the time he arrives I’ll have forgotten he exists, AND he’ll have Detroit Stank all over him.

Argh.

Time for me to get ready to get plastered at a wedding reception. Good times!

"The world is getting to be such a dangerous place, a man is lucky to get out of it alive." -- W.C. Fields

by Donut King on Jun 27, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Huh.

Went to the worst draft party EVAH last night, left, missed the Blues pick, went to lunch today and missed the rest of the draft. doh

Time to play catch-up, I see. Thank God for you guys. I’ve already caught up on the Thrashers picks thanks to our web-dude’s constant tweets, but God forbid the Blues have a media relations guy at the Draft.

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