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Tuesdays With Hildy: Are Preseason Games Necessary?

Sorry for the delay... 95% of the roads in my county are flooded or washed out, which means no school, which means me sleeping in until 11 and making scrambled eggs.  I have priorities.

Anyway, we here at Game Time seem to be in two camps: those who enjoy preseason hockey and think it's important (and flood threads for games we can only hear on the radio), and those who refuse to go.  Preseason happens every year for a chance for coaches and GMs to evaluate players and systems, and for the League to randomly hold games in "tester cities" to see how receptive they are to NHL Hockey.  But, really, do the pros outweigh the cons?

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Yes, Preseason Games Are Useful

Basically this boils down to one major thing: how in the world are teams supposed to judge the ability of the rookies/try-outs to play against other teams' strategies and professionals if not for preseason games?  Going up against someone on your own team during practice can be good training, but you can probably figure out what they're thinking of doing, or how their "team" plays the scrimmage.  You're running your own system back against yourself, or running one of your systems versus another to see which one plays better.  Useful?  Very much so. 

However, it's different when the guys across from you in the face off circle aren't just wearing different color jerseys than you - they're wearing different crests.  You don't know what to expect.  You have to adjust on the fly.  Sometimes young goalies get to go up against world class talent (usually on teams who are playing home preseason games and they want to give their fans something to see), and they get totally creamed.  It's a learning experience.  It also gives the coaches a chance to see who needs to develop more.  Where do you want to learn this - during a preseason game, or during one of the first games of the season?

All this aside, this is the first hockey we've gotten a chance to see in a very long time.  I would take midgets sliding around the ice with newspaper on their shoes by this point.  I don't care if we decide to ice the whole Rivermen squad one night.  It's hockey.

 

No, There Are Too Many Risks Involved

Talk to Kyle Okposo about this one.  Thanks to Dion Phaneuf's open ice hit on him that was legal but probably very unnecessary for a preseason game against two teams who never see each other, he wound up in the hospital with a nasty concussion.  He's one of the Islanders' star players, and he probably won't be out there for opening night.  Ron Hainsey and Colby Armstrong both got hurt during a pre-season game.  Steve Sullivan's out.  Kris Versteeg's out.  These aren't the little guys on their teams.  These are some of their top players.  Can teams risk this every year in the name of seeing who makes the team?  Aren't most of the slots assumed to be status quo from last season as long as the players in that position are still around?  Sometimes pre-season is about tweaking lines, and that can be done on the fly during a game.  Coaches and GMs can't risk losing their big guys for the start of the season - if you fall behind there, it's very difficult to make up that lost ground.

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Are preseason games necessary?
Yes - evaluation of players and systems take place that need to, and it's been a long time since I've paid $7 for a beer.
97 votes
No - there are risks involved to the players that probably don't need to happen. Evaluate them in camp.
21 votes

118 votes | Poll has closed

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7 dollar beers?

To thee I say nay! Last Tuesday, I paid $9 for a cold frosty draft of Bud Select.

by JGB on Sep 22, 2009 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

WhatwhatWHAT?

I paid $7 for a Molson last night. Wow. Finally – something to like about Philips. Our beer’s cheaper… whooda thunk that one?

Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?

Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.

by hildymac on Sep 22, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

STH

I just wish I wasn’t forced to pay full price for these with my season tickets. You can buy these tickets for pennies on the dollar outside the arena.

by dvdvrhs on Sep 22, 2009 11:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Last year

I wish they gave away the vouchers for free tickets like they did at fanfest the last few years. That is the only way I go to a preseason game….free tickets! just like fanfest this year…free ticket for my 10 game pack.

by bss212s on Sep 22, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Easy answer to Scenario #2 . . .

hold out your megastars and can’t-miss prospects (i.e. the ones that you KNOW will make the team) until you absolutely HAVE to play them in a preseason contest (i.e. wait until after the major roster cuts). Or don’t play them until you fly to Stockholm. Whatever.

This same argument comes up in the NFL, like, every fucking year. Basically it comes up for time-and-space-filler. Anyway, the argument gets tiresome after awhile, but it boils down to this: Yes, preseason contests are essential . . . . Yes, they fucking suck . . . . No, they’re not going away.

One day, David Backes and Albert Pujols will combine forces to become the most awesome piece of violent force known to man.

by Donut King on Sep 22, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

That's basically my view on them.

Though I gotta play devil’s advocate here. I enjoyed last night’s game, but it wasn’t real. It was just a chance to see some of the new guys and the like… which I was fine with on just that level alone.

Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?

Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.

by hildymac on Sep 22, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sports other than baseball

try to push off exhibition games as worthwile events, but they’re not. Baseball is different because it’s summer sport starting in winter in smaller venues in vacation destinations. For hockey and football, it’s the home arena with smaller crowds and no energy. There’s nothing special about it.

Come the home opener, the stands will be filled, it will be loud and everything will be centered around welcoming hockey back. None of that happens with the exhibition games.

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by Brad Lee on Sep 22, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions  

whats to say

they dont hurt themselves anyways with games that matter? then they’re out even longer for games that matter.

to me preseason is there to get revved up for the season, some injuries are accidental in game play, which would probably happen anyways. Others that are unavoidable if you dont workout in the offseason, hammies, and other such injuries

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by DESTROYER on Sep 22, 2009 2:18 PM CDT reply actions  

preseason ahoy!

eh, preseason might be too long, but there is no way scrimaging makes the grade.

if you start run full contact, full game tryouts within just the blues roster, wouldn’t that take the negatives of preseason and make them worse? EVERY injury would be a blues injury (instead of half of them), and it would be impossible for dj king to seperate himself from cam janssen, eh? what they do drop against each other?

football, baseball and maybe hockey have questioned the LENGTH of the preseason sched. so that is the issue,

prospect camp, training camp, scrimage, expo games, real game seem the logical progression, but, again, how many you need.

i’m going with 4.

2 to do any race issues amoungst your team (yea that rookie looks goo, lets play him 20 minutes against a top scoring line from another team and see). and 2 games to get some game legs, and line familiarity with your likely team.

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by Childhood Trauma on Sep 22, 2009 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

is preseason necessary?is it necessary for me to drink my own urine

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by Oshie#74 on Sep 22, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

"No, but I do it anyway, cause it's sterile and I like the taste."

Anytime’s a good time for a Dodgeball quote

No beer and no TV make Homer...something something.

by Poor College Student on Sep 22, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

very true

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by Oshie#74 on Sep 27, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

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