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Entering his sixth season, few people who follow the NHL know a lot about Blues center Jay McClement and how he's one of the elite defensive forwards in the league. We hope to change that starting today.

Right here, right now St. Louis Game Time is declaring its intent to lobby for "Silent" Jay to win the Frank J. Selke Trophy, awarded every year to the best defensive forward in the NHL. Obviously he's not going to speak up for himself and the team hasn't been proactive in preaching the McClement gospel, so we have to. And Blues fans, you'll have a role too. It's a movement. Get on board now, or get the hell out of the way as we convince NHL writers who should win the award.

The inescapable truth is that McClement is the most important penalty killer in the NHL. For two straight seasons he has logged more ice time shorthanded than any forward in the league. Last season he spent 306 minutes and 53 seconds on the penalty kill, fourth most in the entire league. The next forward on the list is Jordan Staal at 274:48. That's more than 30 minutes difference. That averages out to 3:44 a game, only 20 seconds less a game on average behind league leader Willie Mitchell. Correspondingly, he led the league in shorthanded faceoffs taken and won. His play propelled the Blues to the No. 1 ranked penalty kill in the league.

At even strength, he also managed to have an even plus/minus despite playing against the top offensive players in the strong Western Conference on a nightly basis. But none of that is sexy for Selke voters. And that's why we're talking about this the first day of the season.

By looking just at the NHL stats, McClement will never finish higher than 16th in the voting (his finish last year despite getting two first place votes). He doesn't rack up a lot of hits or blocked shots (who has the time when defensive positioning is in your DNA?). He's pretty far behind the league leader in takeaways. He doesn't have a lot of offense to go with his defense (he scored 11 goals last season). That's why more and more writers are talking about going beyond the stats to award the trophy, even at The Puck Stops Here at Kukla's Korner.

The Selke Trophy is one that voters have a problem picking. Even if you believe the best player won, it is quite amazing that a quarter of voters did not pick the eventual winner in their top five. When you start looking deeper at the results there are even more problems. The fact that the winner had a significant reduction in his penalty killing time and his quality of competition makes it look as though he won on reputation and not on actually watching him play this season. Pavel Datsyuk won the last three Selke trophies.  The first one was earned and the next two were won on reputation. He has become less of a top Selke candidate each year of his run as his use in defensive situations has been consistently declining during that time.

And there you have it. Datsyuk, who regularly scores 30 goals or more and almost always leads the league in takeaways with more than one and a half per game, is known as a top defensive player and wins on that reputation. Rod Brind'Amour won the two seasons before that - they were two of the best offensive seasons of his career. The last real true defensive forward to win it was Kris Draper right before the lockout. Nothing positive can be said for that.

So this year, we're going to spread the word. He's like the Blues' Secret Weapon (something we're probably ripping off from Mike Shannon and Jose Oquendo, but that was more than 20 years ago). But don't take our word for it. Listen to the Blues.

"A lot of guys kind of play themselves out of the league because they think they deserve more," Blues defenseman Barret Jackman said. "But Jay is very determined to prove that he's one of the best defensive forwards in the game. You could definitely make an argument that he's deserving of the Selke."

Of course you could also listen to the biggest McClement fan not related to him, our own Average Joe.

"Basically, McClement is a steady hand who is the furthest thing from flashy. He shows up, takes a ton of faceoffs, and smothers other forwards. When he's on, you rarely hear his name on the broadcast -- you also rarely hear the other team's top player mentioned."

So we're going to make some signs saying "Vote for Jay!" available for fans at certain games. We're going to keep a page here on the site dedicated to just stories about McClement and his defensive play. We're going to ask the folks on Twitter to bug the broadcasters to talk him up, especially the games we distribute the signs. We're going to ask you fine folks to inundate the chats by Jeremy Rutherford and John Kelly to see if they support Silent Jay for the Selke. We're going to ask you all to bug the opinion shapers across the league like Bob McKenzie and Greg Wyshynski and John Buccigross and others to make sure we spread the word about McClement's defensive play. It's grassroots, baby. We're changing the world, one mild-mannered, defense-obsessed Canadian forward at a time.

Granted, the Selke is one of the more oddball trophies (it's better than the Lady Bing), but only one player with the Blues (others like Doug Gilmour, Rod the Bod and Guy Carboneau won with other teams) has ever won the thing (bonus Schrutebucks for the first to say who it is) and we think it's high time to double that total.

So if anyone who has a vote for Selke should read this...VOTE FOR JAY! And in the comments, any other suggestions about how we can get the campaign off the ground are appreciated.

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Rick Meagher

Silent Jay for Selke… I love it.

B.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Oct 7, 2010 8:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Derek Zona of Copper and Blue also the stat guy for from Behind the Net.
“A final word about Jay McClement: the centerman is the salt of the earth and he’s moving along, completely unrecognized for his work. He’s playing the toughest minutes in the toughest conference in the toughest division in the NHL. He’s got the most difficult starting positions in his conference. Yet when you account for his starting position, he’s nearly breaking even, and when you consider his linemates – Brandon Crombeen and Alexander Steen – he probably deserves the kind of credit that goes with doing better than breaking even. If I had a vote for the Selke, McClement would have been at the top of my ballot each of the last two seasons, narrowly edging out Frans Nielsen this season”

His works of advanced statistical analysis on forwards.
Here
and here
and here

He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.

by Icion on Oct 7, 2010 8:45 AM CDT reply actions  

and I just realized I have to change my signature.

He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.

by Icion on Oct 7, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for that.

We don’t use those microstats much, but we will probably have a couple stories on that stuff through the year, as early as next week.

www.stlouisgametime.com

by Brad Lee on Oct 7, 2010 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Totally on board.

Consider my annoying the hell out of broadcasters, etc. on Twitter done.

Thrashing the Blues
SB Nation Atlanta - home of the Fairest and Weatheriest fans on the net.

Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?

Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.

by hildymac on Oct 7, 2010 9:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks, Hildy.

The first opportunity is to get some questions in to Rutherford today and get it retweeted to John Kelly, Panger and Kerbs. Just a thought.

www.stlouisgametime.com

by Brad Lee on Oct 7, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've always thought that it was weird how none of the press in STL've caught on to the wonder that is Silent Jay.

I guess it’s because the unassuming guys fly under the radar, but there are a lot of “role players” in the league that I consider to be just as important as the superstars as far as contributing to a win. I’m a little superstared out, honestly. Even if I weren’t a Blues fan I’d still enjoy watching STL play because it’s not just one guy with a puck.

Thrashing the Blues
SB Nation Atlanta - home of the Fairest and Weatheriest fans on the net.

Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?

Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.

by hildymac on Oct 7, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Goin' politicing are ya?

I’m on board for the unsung Silent Jay.

Can I be like them new Black Panther dudes and man the polling place with a baton?

Just a chew toy for the hockey gods

by spectr17 on Oct 7, 2010 9:21 AM CDT reply actions  

I am all in on this...

I am with Hildy, on bugging the folks on twitter.

You could go all out on the grassroots by making buttons and bumper stickers. Works for politicians haha.

BOOM SHAKA HALAKA!

Since this makes me think of NBA Jam, I wonder if Halak will magically transform into a brick wall if he makes 10 saves in a row, ala Wayne Gretzky hockey on the N64.

by TheDarkMongoose on Oct 7, 2010 9:24 AM CDT reply actions  

It makes no sense to campaign for an award before the season opens. Waot and see how well the players play this year to determine who deserbes an awatd.

by PuckStopsHere on Oct 7, 2010 10:34 AM CDT reply actions  

You know what doesn't make senese?

Your spelling. Shit’s weak, son.

But seriously, it makes perfect sense to Inception-ize the voters. We had to plant the idea in their heads. If you look at all the preseason predictions, Jay isn’t even getting a sniff for the Selke award. A lot of media folks are already penciling in Datsyuk and his takeaways for the top spot. If Jay has a shitty year, he won’t get it, but he hasn’t had a shitty year in the past.

St. Louis Game Time Fact: Morning links are part of a well-balanced meal.

SBNSTL Writing about the Blues in more than one line is tough.

by averagejoe on Oct 7, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Logically, that makes sense… but it seems like Selke voters haven’t really been considering performance in their voting anyway, so what the hell…

by callmez on Oct 7, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wait a second

You said that it stinks that a guy wins the award on a reputation based not in reality. So when I suggest we try to build a guy’s reputation based on reality, you say it’s a bad idea?

We just figured we’d get organized and start putting it out there. If we wait until say February when there’s enough of the season to really make the case, it’s pretty much too late for something like this to have an effect.

I’d say telling voters they got it wrong after the fact and about 10 months before they vote again doesn’t make much sense.

www.stlouisgametime.com

by Brad Lee on Oct 7, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

here here Brad!!

It shocks and pisses me off that there are fans who are not behind this. Way to stand by your players…

Silent Jay deserves this, he has worked his ass off and I am behind this 110%. Hell, ill make campaign videos!

Silent jay all the way!

WWTJD?

by RealBadRobot on Oct 7, 2010 1:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Silent Jay

FUCK YEAH!

"I wanna be an achiever like Bad Horse.... I meant Ghandi" ~ Dr. Horrible

by Carnie on Oct 7, 2010 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Look up "hockey player" in the dictionary and it would show Silent Jay

Show up, do your job, don’t showboat….that’s why I love hockey.

Why stop at Selke, can he be our Senator? I’m sick of the Carnahan/Blunt ads.

by Kevin4 on Oct 7, 2010 11:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Lets do this.

If Jay doesn’t win the Selke, then that terrorists have WON!

If he does, DICK TOWELS FOR EVERYONE!

Barret Jackman is my hero.

Fueled. These new shores burn. Shadow, my sweet shadow, to you I look no more.

by BluesTiger on Oct 7, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Doesn’t matter what the press says.
Doesn’t matter what the pundits or the fans say.
It doesn’t matter if the whole league decides something wrong is something right.
This nation was founded on one simple principle above all else.
The requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or consequences.
When the fans and press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree next to the river of truth and tell the whole world—
No, Jay McClement is the best Defensive forward in the NHL.

-Captain America

He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Jay McClement for Selke in 2011. Justice will be served. Penalties will be killed.

by Icion on Oct 7, 2010 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

We need a punny slogan

and white frame photo so Rina Wear can make shirts. Casually wearing them around the DrinkScotch would help get the movement publicity.

by dvdvrhs on Oct 7, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

"Selke and Silent Jay".

Take an image from “Clerks” with J&SB standing outside the store. Photoshop Jay Mac’s head onto Jay’s body, and replace Bob with the trophy on a pedestal.

On the back: “Don’t break your neck trying to Datsyuk yourself.”

by BleedBlue42 on Oct 7, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Break Datsyuk's neck

instead
Too harsh? Maybe just take out his knee

Hockey players wear numbers because you can't always identify the body with dental records.

It is the sweet, simple things of life which are the real ones after all. Laura Ingalls Wilder

by luvhockey on Oct 7, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well if JR's chat this afternoon in an indication

There are about 5 posts about Jay.
I still call sexism, he didn’t post mine but Brad, Joe and others were posted!

I AM PISSED

Hockey players wear numbers because you can't always identify the body with dental records.

It is the sweet, simple things of life which are the real ones after all. Laura Ingalls Wilder

by luvhockey on Oct 7, 2010 1:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I think he heard me

Finally posted mine
Said Jay was the theme of the day.
Does he not read any blogs? It’s been building over the internet at various sites for a few weeks.

Hockey players wear numbers because you can't always identify the body with dental records.

It is the sweet, simple things of life which are the real ones after all. Laura Ingalls Wilder

by luvhockey on Oct 7, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know he follows GT on twitter

He knows what’s up.

St. Louis Game Time Fact: Morning links are part of a well-balanced meal.

SBNSTL Writing about the Blues in more than one line is tough.

by averagejoe on Oct 7, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I probably knew that

Just blowing steam after no internet for 5 days.
Deep breaths, must find chocolate

Hockey players wear numbers because you can't always identify the body with dental records.

It is the sweet, simple things of life which are the real ones after all. Laura Ingalls Wilder

by luvhockey on Oct 7, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can talk you down

Ima professional

Just a chew toy for the hockey gods

by spectr17 on Oct 7, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we found a minor weekly Project Mayhem.

Each week quietly post the theme of questions and see how many we can get in the chat. Like next week, include a food metaphor somehow in your question.

www.stlouisgametime.com

by Brad Lee on Oct 7, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

WOOOO, HOCKEY SEASON!!

Minnesota starts their stampede for the league cellar, losing 4-3 to the Hartolina Whalicanes.

by BleedBlue42 on Oct 7, 2010 1:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Haven't read it yet...

…but the picture is phenomenal. South Park grin!

by doobers on Oct 7, 2010 2:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Haha

I saw Brad’s question in Jeremy Rutherford’s chat and then saw a flood of Jay for selke questions and knew that something had to be going on over here.

by Bluesforever on Oct 7, 2010 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

For Jay to win the Selke,

The Blues are going to have to be good this year. Probably really good. Look at the previous winners and you’ll see that they were nearly all on elite teams.

Three years of Datsyuk.

Brind’Amour was on the Cup champs and the defending champs.

Draper was a Wing.

Lehtinen was on a first place Dallas team.

Peca on the Islanders is a stretch, but it was his second one ( voters love repeat Selke winners), plus the Islanders were decent that year.

Madden was on the Devils in their heyday.

Yzerman on the Wings.

Two more Lehtinen on the Stars when they were contenders.

You get the point. For Jay to win he’s going to have to pile up impressive +/- numbers on a damn good team. Hopefully, the good team thing won’t be a problem, because the kids are all grown up now and every game counts.

by Manbones on Oct 7, 2010 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Good point - maybe.

I’d say they need to make the playoffs at least.

by Mr. Particle on Oct 7, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHA!

rec’d like the wild’s “up-tempo”-style!

St. Louis Game Time

by Marcus E Pettersson on Oct 7, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

JRec'd...

…and since Silent Jay is a product of the Blues’ development system, and a graduated prospect, count on me to push his Selke candidacy at every opportunity in Prospect Sunday features and “Tomorrows Blues” columns.

He never played in Peoria, only Worcester, but I;ll pass the word on to the folks up there and see if they’re willing to boost McClement’s candidacy at all.

B.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Oct 8, 2010 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Correction...

McClement did play briefly in Peoria, 11 games in 2005-06, with 4-5-9 point totals.

That info may help me convince the folks in P-Town to help with this drive.

B.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Oct 8, 2010 7:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

JThe beauty.

JThe rec.

St. Louis Game Time . . . I need another beer.
And I can also write things in 140 characters or fewer.

by Donut King on Oct 8, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also

Vote for Rory!

And TJ for mayor.

No beer and no TV make Homer...something something.

by Poor College Student on Oct 7, 2010 10:53 PM CDT reply actions  

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