Federko and the HHOF
Thing is, the "eyeball test" is a test for some other Hall of Fame that isn't the current incarnation of the Hockey Hall of Fame. Dino Ciccarelli wouldn't pass it. Glenn Anderson wouldn't pass it. Bernie Federko wouldn't pass it. It's the standard that should exist but never has.
This was in Puck Daddy's post about Chris Osgood's Hall of Fame chances, and it struck me for obvious reasons. I'm too young to have ever seen Bernie play, but I'm curious as to what some of the more veteran GTers thought about that. Of course, that opinion's seen through Wysh's Patrick Division googles, and obviously he's been in since 2002, so there's no real debat if he IS in, but...should he be?
BTW, if Chris Osgood ever gets in, I will boycott Toronto. Not just the HHOF, but the whole damn city!
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Number 24, Bernie Federko...
Retired twenty years and still 38th of all time in assists and 50th of all time in points.
1.13 points per game for career.
1.11 playoff points per game for career.
1000 games played in NHL career.
You bet your ass he belongs in the Hall of Fame.
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by Tomorrows Blues on Dec 30, 2010 4:05 PM CST reply actions
the eyeball tesrt is the only test
and it puts bernie IN not keeps himout, no one deserve in that when you watch him play over the deacde(s) doesnt make you believe he should be in.
the osgood thing is the anti-eyeball test.
what? osgood hit some number? based mainly due to playing on good teams for 95% of his career? so lets vote him in!
the eyeball test falls osgood, but anyone who thinks the test failed federko or oooh Dino Ciccarelli or ooooh dale hunter or oooooohhh Rod Langway
someone who has never seen langway play, or seldom saw him play, make a compelling case for his inclusion in the hall :)
and brad park? dude may have been the second best d-man in hockey hostory. i could make a case for it.
probnlem was he was second WHILE orr was first, and second when the offensive d-men didnt put up coffian and hoslian numbers,
puck daddy did nothing but prove he has no middle america eye balls. he pucked on a blue,. a north star and well and andersson.
and as far as the north star goes, if he wasnt an asshole, he would have been in first year. cos people did eyeball him. it wasnt the ice skillz thast borderlined dino.
if i had a question of the eyeballs, it would be kt. not osgood. osgood is fail (hallwize) imho, kt? a lot trickeir i think.
And a harvest of righteousness is grown from the seed of peace planted by peacemakers.
by Childhood Trauma on Dec 30, 2010 5:14 PM CST reply actions
This is going
to take a few reads to figure out CT.
Maybe I need more caffeine to comprehend
Hockey players wear numbers because you can't always identify the body with dental records.
It is the sweet, simple things of life which are the real ones after all. Laura Ingalls Wilder
and know what the eyeball test is
cos i dont think it is explained unless you go and read the puckdaddy article
though there are again waaay to many typos. sigh. so that doesnt help anything.
puckdaddy claims having watched federko and ciccereli play he understands intuitively that they are not worthy of the hall. (aka the eyeball test)
i claim watching osgood makes me know he shouldnt be allowed in, even as a visitor.
and having watched kt who also has hit numbers that indicate hall consideration like osgood has, i am more on the fence, not becuase of numbers, but because i’ve seen him and ok. he is kt. is it enough? he isnt the best powerforward i’ve seen in the note. but he was good.
And a harvest of righteousness is grown from the seed of peace planted by peacemakers.
by Childhood Trauma on Dec 30, 2010 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
I loved it when they had Bernie Federko Night.
They painted a 24 behind each net. I always thought they should have kept it there, because as far as I could tell, he OWNED that area of the ice.
The stats, though, pretty much tell the story. He passes the test.
Bad Wysh.
St. Louis Game Time . . . I need another beer.
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