Why Sitting On A Lead Sucks: Blues Fall At Home Again.
I will never understand why the Blues feel like going into a defensive shell to protect a one goal lead is a good idea. I don't know if it's a coaching decision or just a We're Tired Because We Played Last Night decision, but you could absolutely feel that it wasn't going to work up in the cheap seats. We all murmured and groaned as the Blues fought off the inevitable tying goal by playing like they were on a penalty kill. It was all they could muster to get the puck out of their zone and catch their breath before weathering yet another attack from the more motivated Predators.
Then, after that goal was scored, we all knew what was coming next. In fact, one guy even said it.
The Blues fall to 12-18-5 at home (11-18-5 in St. Louis) and remain six points out of the eighth seed with 10 games to play. Just to make the point, even the lowly Edmonton Oilers (15th in the Conference) have a better home record than the Note. In fact, if the Blues flipped home records with the awful Columbus Blue Jackets (14th in the Conference, 18-11-7 at home), they'd have 91 points and would be in the fifth seed in the West. You don't even want to know where they'd be if they had Anaheim's or Minnesota's home record - it's just too depressing.
The Blues have no one to blame but themselves for this. They have failed at home all year and will have no other place to look for answers when they're cleaning out their lockers in early April.
As an added bonus for the owners of the team, this loss came at the end of a long game where there were lots and lots of fans complaining about the cost of their renewals for their season tickets. It's far from scientific, but based on what I heard tonight, they're going to get plenty of angry emails, letters and calls on this increase. I know a lot of people who are seriously considering just staying home next year. But I'll have more on that topic later this week, and honestly, most of you probably won't agree with me on this one.
As for the game itself, here are a few discussion points:
- Carlo Colaiacovo is playing the best hockey of his career this year. He is also a free agent this summer and indications are that the Blues may just let him walk. But should they? He's only 27 and seems to fit the team mold.
- David Perron makes yet another beauty goal with a tip-in to take the lead for the Blues. He continues to be inconsistent in his efforts, but is this just a sign of his youth? Is he getting better as the years go on?
- I've always thought T.J. Oshie was going to be a high-tempo guy who makes his team better and has the flash of offensive touch. I also figured he'd settle in to about a 20-goal, 40-point a year rhythm. He's already got 42 points this year and seems to becoming even more comfortable offensively. Is he going to become more offensive than that?
- Paul Kariya is, in accordance with prophesy, turning it on at the tail end of his contract. A few weeks ago he was a lock to walk away from this team. Now he seems to have great chemistry with David Backes and Oshie. Should he stay now? What's the magic number where he makes sense: $2.5 mil? $3 mil?
- Chris Mason saw a lot of shots, some of which he made great saves on to preserve the tie/lead. Is it just me, or is he still wildly frustrating as a starter?
- Davis Payne as full-time head coach. I know where I fall on this one, what about you? Yay or nay on a continuation of the House Of Payne?
- Next game is Wednesday in Detroit. Predictions?
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The Blues can’t play a full 60 minutes, obviously it’s the coaching at fault.
Fire Payne.
/honestly, isn’t this the same type of game that got AM fired?
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by CrossCheckRaise on Mar 21, 2010 8:40 PM CDT reply actions
One question at a time
The problem with re-signing Carlo is, your probably taking a roster spot away fron Junland or Pietrangelo (Unless we buy out Brewer, which I’m actually against at this point. Not an overly noticable player, but talented enough that I think he’s making a positive contribution for the most part). And I’m starting to become concerned how much longer Junland will wait before he heads back overseas to play there. I personally wouldn’t mind us letting Alex play in Peoria next year, though most will disagree with that. So it’s simply a matter of depth.
Perron… Honestly, out of our top forward prospects, he’s my least favorite. Berglund has had a quiet year, but it just feels like a hiccup to me, Eller is someone I have very high expectations for, and I very rarely find anything in TJ Oshies game I dislike. But Perron… man if he doesn’t seem half ass sometimes. Which isn’t that major of a problem, but it’s just something that I find concerning for a young player. If he’s half assing it during a game, why shouldn’t I think he’s half assing it in practice? And if he’s half assing it in practice, he’s probably not going to reach his full potential. Course I could be 100% wrong, but you asked for discussion points, so I’m discussing.
I think Oshie has the upside to surpass the 20-40 point, maybe more of a 30-60 player if things go right. In fact, I think we will eventually think of him as a David Backes type level of awesome, just in a smaller package. Love me some Teej.
Kariya is someone who I’m open to bringing back at around a 2.5 mill price tag. I’m not particularly in love with any of the free agent forwards this year (And I’d activly dread us signing Kovalchuk at this point). I could see 3 mill, if it was a 1 year deal.
Personally speaking, I just don’t buy Chris Mason as a legitimate No.1 starter. Then again, I’m not sure who else will be out there this off-season that I would either (Harding is a possibility, but what level of draft pick would we have to give up to acquire him?)
Payne…. Honestly, I say full time. He’s done a solid job, but he has to get it through to the players you have to play a full season, not just the 2nd half. Maybe if we miss the playoffs, it’ll get through.
Oh, and we beat Detroit 5-2, giving us hope for a return, before they dash it by blowing a lead in a game at home shortly after.
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I value your opinion but
I have to defend Perron.He’s actually considered a rink rat and people say he works very hard at practice.He was born to play hockey and is always trying to improve his game
"HOLY JUMPIN!"
well that's good then!
I’m more then fine about being wrong… Still wish he was more consistant, but I can’ really change that.
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Missed the GDT, and probably shouldn't have flipped the game on in the 3rd.
I’ll blame myself. Maybe my father’s bad luck when he watches the Blues is passing down to me.
Hell, this may have given me an idea for a write-up . . .
Anyway. Fucking Goddamn shit-tossing ass-flinging douchetards did that suck the horse cock. Argh.
When we’re kicking everyone’s asses in a few years, I’m gonna laugh about this season.
St. Louis Game Time . . . I need another beer.
Perron is not greatly more inconsistent...
than any of the other Blues. “Inconsistent” pretty much sums up the whole team (with few exceptions).
My thoughts...
1. Keep Splodeybones. If he comes back next year, you’ve got him, Johnson, Brewer, Polak, and Jackman. I say bring Weaver back as well, and let Pietrangelo, Junland and Strachan battle it out for the seventh spot. I understand the concern with wondering how long Junland will keep coming back before he decides to go home to the chocolate factory, but he’s really just not quite ready yet.
2. Perron is just fine. I completely reject the notion espoused by ‘Cain that he might be “half-assing it” in practice. I don’t believe for a second that Tkachuk, Jackman, Brewer, McClement and Backes would allow that to happen without doing something about it, and I don’t believe for a second that Davis Pane would play Perron as much as he does if that’s what he was doing.
Perron is what he is; a confident-to-the-point-of-cockiness kid with talent oozing out of his pores. You don’t try to make a square peg like that fit a round hole; that’s what got Murray fired. Frustrating as it might be on the nights when it’s not clicking, the best way for a player like that to be effective is to leave him alone and let him do what he does. The coaches that “get” that are the ones who can have success with players like Perron.
3. Oshie. I see TJ as a 25-goal, 50-60 point guy on a regular basis, as soon as next season. His “career year” will be 30 goals and 80 points, and he might do that more than once.
4. Agree with ‘Cain on Kariya; bring him back for $2.5 – 3 MM on a short-term deal. Keep him with Oshie and Backes for a full year, and there’s no reason to think they can’t be a very dangerous line. Again, who knew… keeping players together consistently allows them to develop chemistry and a more instinctive understanding of where each guy is going to be in any given situation. As smart as Andy Murray clearly is, I’m baffled as to why he never seemed to “get” that…
5. God bless Chris Mason for all he’s done to help the Blues get back to respectability, but I agree with ‘Cain again… I just don’t see him as a legitimate “scary” No. 1 goalie. I’d be willing to go to the draft offering a swap of first-round picks, along with Bishop and one of our Minnesota-born prospects, to Minnesota for Harding.
6. This is The House Of Payne, and should be for several years to come. Bring him back as the full-time coach, remove the “interim” tag, and let him hire his own assistants.
B.
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by Tomorrows Blues on Mar 21, 2010 9:20 PM CDT reply actions
Re: Halak...
That’s fine with me, too. I like both Harding and Halak, and whichever franchise goes for that offer, I;m good with either one.
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by Tomorrows Blues on Mar 22, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions
my two ¢
• Cola will probably be gone. After drafting seemingly nothing but d-men for the last decade, shouldn’t someone be ready to step in right now and fill his spot for a fraction of the cost? Ideally, Cola could be around for one or two years and then a prospect could fully take his place, but he’s not gonna sign a one-year deal.
• Perron is getting better. He’s turning a corner this season. Next year I think he make the jump toward super-stardom.
- Oshie’s production is always going to be limited by his PK ability. He’s very valuable as a two-way player so that will lessen his ice time on the PP and at even strength.
• No on Kariya. He’s going down hill and his money should go to resigning Perron, EJ, Berg etc. One month of inspired play doesnt erase two-plus years of him playing like garbage.
• Mason is not the answer. He’s a very good backup, but can’t start more than 40 games a year.
• Payne has to stay. Give him an offseason to put some work in and put in his own system.
Thank, AJ. I'll concur on all but some of Cola.
Cola Splodeybones can stay or go in my book. I’d like to see him stay, but with our pipeline, we can’t offer him high dollars.
I’m also in no rush to get young defensemen to the big club because many are likely not ready. Ofvwe’re on a slow steady course, let’s not speed it up for the sake of a here and now mentality.
The Six Million Dollar Man needs to go. Period. He should have had 400 his first season here. Fuck him and the ass he rode in on. I’d rather see that money pay for the younger guys or to Cola.
Made, we love ya, but #1 is just not your thing.
About tonight: Patented third period collapse. Fuckers couldn’t clear the zone for shit. What do they think will happen when your defensive zone becomes a third period shooting gallery. I’m sick of this shit. Ponying up an additional $300 per seat on my season ticket renewal will be painful, but I’ve been patiently waiting since I got a conscious memory in 1973 or 1974 to see Lord Stanley’s Cup ride down Oakland Ave / Market St and I’m not about to give up on the only team I’ve ever really given two shits about!
Let's go Blues!!!
by Milo. on Mar 21, 2010 10:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Fucking autofill ...
*Mase, we love ya, but #1 is just not your thing.
Let's go Blues!!!
by Milo. on Mar 21, 2010 10:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Get Cola and Kariya outta here.
Cola was playing awful for most of the year. Word was, the organization was really disappointed in his play while he was healthy and thats why he was on the trading block. Hell, he had a goal and an assist in this game and STILL went -1. Get him outta here and let Petro take his spot. We got Steen out of that deal, they can let Carlo walk and still feel good about it.
I think it’s time to let all the vets walk, the young guys need to learn how to carry a team, and they can’t do that while sitting around waiting for Kariya to make plays. I can’t sit through a season like this and then watch them resign the guys that have been part of this terrible home record. That wouldn’t make any sense. We got to see how this team performed while it was healthy for an entire season, the chemistry isn’t right, so changes need to be made. Save the money for the big contracts coming up for the young guys.
Oh, and I’m pro-frenchy. He’s been playing hard this year. He wouldn’t be getting cheap shots from the other teams after the whistle if he wasn’t doing something right.
I see Perron
as the same type of mold like Hull. Not saying he’ll be a superstar but he’s the kind of player that floats around and doesn’t look like he’s trying hard when he is seeing everything.
I’m on the fence about Kariya. He’s been playing good lately and has chemistry with Oshie and Backes. But, who’s to say he won’t get hurt in the beginning of next season if he’s resigned. Of course, whoever would take his place could get injured too and if it’s another kid how will he do?
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arrghh
i still hate giving peeps props for 2 weeks of work, including payne.
you didnt touch on the steen problem too. the problem is he is scoring like a top liner but not playing on a top line, if the blues don;]’t start giving that kid #1 line minutes to see what he can do there and THEN sign him to a contraact assuming he is a top 2 line player….
even with penalty kill AND power play work alex is doing less than 16 minutes a game this season.now over his last 10 games he has averaged about a shift more than that. but still if the blues want to pencil him in as a top winger, i wanna see 20 minutes a few times
AaaaaaRGGGGGHHHHHHH
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by Childhood Trauma on Mar 22, 2010 9:27 AM CDT reply actions
Hmmm
I can’t sit through a season like this and then watch them resign the guys that have been part of this terrible home record. That wouldn’t make any sense. We got to see how this team performed while it was healthy for an entire season, the chemistry isn’t right, so changes need to be made. Save the money for the big contracts coming up for the young guys.
^^^This
This team is way too comfortable losing. I was watching the post game interview with Backes and I’m thinking where’s the pride? Where the rage at blowing yet another 3rd period lead at home? I should have been seeing furniture being tossed around and some cursing at least in the background. Instead I got the same excuses and “we still got time” BS. I’d of been choking the god damn reporter at least for interrupting my tirade. The GDT showed the raw emotion of the huge let down, where are the Blues?
Walnuts, I’ve always said PK’s not the same player since Stevens put him in tweety bird land. Lately though I see some magic with him, Teej and Backes. Is it enough to keep him around for 2 large? I dunno. He’s a crap shoot in my opinion and one good head shot away from the end of his career. Like Happy Meal he has the wheels to create space and make some nifty plays.
Mr. Dangles is just like Hull as mentioned and needs the same “Handle With Care” label attached to his azz. The kid has the potential to be a superstar, I hope it happens in San Louie.
Mason. Goalies have to give you confidence, you can’t have any lingering doubts. Mason makes me fret like a teen age girl’s father. Let him go and find our rock with someone else.
Payne. Too early to tell but it appears he’s a decent coach that was sucked into an ugly situation and made the best of it.
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that's what irritated me...
all that “don’t blame Mason” shite. I’m here going “we’re NOT blaming Mason! We’re blaming the whole fucking lot of you!”
Are the players still pissed about that loss the day after the event like we are?
I’m starting to think missing the playoffs might be a blessing – might make them wake up a bit and realise they have to play a whole 60 minutes…and play at the START of the season too.
As for Paulie. I love Paulie – you know I do. I’d be happy to keep him around – if only for the chemistry he has with Backes and Oshie but the price has to be right. He’s saying the right things about the team etc (but didn’t he say the same about the Ducks before walking?) but no way should the Blues pay him more than £2.5m…£3m max with NO NTC. I guess we’ll see how much of a mercenary he really is – maybe he’s matured a bit… I can live in hope.
Mason. We need someone else. The usual suspects – Halak, Harding…what about Bernier?
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by drfrankentweed on Mar 22, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd be up for Bernier
but I don’t know if Lombardi is sold on Quick. My first choices are either Price or Halak, they’ve both proven they can be number 1s more so than any other goalie we have a chance to acquire.
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the davis payne thing above… i think that was exactly what was said about mike kitchen and he got us our last playoff victory. turned pretty darn ugly pretty darn fast after that.,
slim picken in free agency in net
so if we trade a young d-man who has little to no nhl exceperience i suspect we can get a mason jr type 1a back.
i suspect turco will see free agency, and nabokov will be resigned.
Goaltenders – 2010 NHL Unrestricted Free Agents
Player Age Team 09-10 Salary Notes
Evgeni Nabokov 33 SJ $6,000,000
Marty Turco 33 DAL $5,400,000
Jose Theodore 32 WASH $4,500,000
Vesa Toskala 32 CAL $4,000,000
Chris Mason 33 STL $3,000,000
Dan Ellis 29 NASH $2,000,000
Ray Emery 26 PHI $1,500,000
Martin Biron 31 NYI $1,400,000
Peter Budaj 26 COL $1,250,000
Johan Hedberg 36 ATL $1,175,000
Patrick Lalime 34 BUF $1,000,000
Alex Auld 28 NYR $1,000,000
Stephen Valiquette 31 NYR $725,000
Michael Leighton 28 CAR $600,000
Curtis Sanford 29 MON $600,000
Antero Niittymaki 29 TB $600,000
Brent Johnson 32 PIT $525,000
Yann Danis 28 NJ $500,000
Andrew Raycroft 29 VAN $500,000
Dany Sabourin 28 BOS TBA
Scott Munroe 27 NYI TBA
Joey MacDonald 29 ANA TBA
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by Childhood Trauma on Mar 22, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Playoff Run. . .
1. Carlo, Im very indifferent on this one. The man is good, but does he play to his highest potential? we dont know. Honestly I dont see what people see in Jackman, lately he has had some good defensive “saves” but otherwise hes out there standing around, not hitting and not clearing the puck. I would rather see the blues eat the rest of his contract and keep Carlo. With that Sydor will be gone, and maybe one other defenseman if the blues do get rid of Carlo or someone else, having Pietrangelo up next year takes away a spot but you still would have room for more defenseman.. why not Jonas Junland?
2. Perron, kid is good thats all their is to it. He’s been in the league for three years now but he’s getting there. Next year is going to be the best year for the kids. With Berg’s play lately, if he keeps it up next year will be magical.
3. Osh, Brett Hull compared himself to Osh. If that doesnt light up your eyes than i dont know what does. Once again break out year for the kid next year, your second year is always your hardest because everyone expects so much from you. Hope he stays a blue for a veryyy long time.
4. Kariya, KEEP HIM! Yes, his first 2 years werent all that great as a blue, but he loves St. Louis and would like to stay here. Many people think he owes the blues, I have to agree. I believe he will sign for less if he really sticks to his word and wants to stay here. you gotta like the way Osh, Backs, and Pauly are playing together, its just scary good. and with Walt most likely retiring after the season, rumor has it Lars Eller will be up which is even better news, hes been having a break out season down in Peoria and he’s ready to play with the big boys you can just see it in him.
5. I have more faith in Conks than i do Mase at this point.
6. Hell Ive jumped on the Payne Train, since he’s been here I like what i see with most of the boys. I love seeing Berg out there hitting, passing, shooting, and scoring. I just think the boys can relate to him more than AM. Keep Payne and let him do what he wants to do.
7. Blues Win, Blues have had Detroits number all year.
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My thoughts
First of all I would like to see Cola stay. That being said, I don’t know with all the D-men we have in the pipelines that we have room for him. I think us resigning him depends a LOT on how much we want to rush Petro. Cola is the most offensive defenseman we have at this point, and we will already have a spot to fill with Sydor being gone.
2. I think Perron is going to be phenominal. YOu can see the flashes of greatness in his game, and think its just a matter of time until he gets enough confidence in that game until it really solidifies. Once that happens, he’s going to be a BEAST!
3.Oshie is another great player. I’ve been saying it for a while and you all have been with me, but this kid line is going to be one of the best in the NHL in years to come. These guys are going to be the bane of teams for a LONG time.
4. I say Kariya stays only if you get a Tkachuk level discount. Sure he’s saying the right things about the team, but what person says the wrong things? Its just business sense. He is showing some magic with Oshie and Backes, but again, its hard to tell what to do. I say if you get him for around 2-2.5mil then maybe, but nothing over that. He’s just such a gamble with injuries at this point. I think we will need some veteran leadership for our forwards however.
5. Mason is an enigma to me. He can play amazing hockey for a few games then falls on his face like Colorado. I’m still not sure if last years run was a fluke, or he can play at that level. We see flashes of brilliance in his game that seems like they are to often to be just a fluke, yet he lets in some goals that I’m fairly certain I could stop. I don’t see them signing him to anything long-term if they do keep him, and as stated before, I don’t see to many other options out-there however.
6. I think Payne is a good choice for coach. If nothing else, give him a one year deal as head coach and let him bring his own assisstants and see how he does. It seems like he’s working pretty well with the team, so we’ll see how it goes. Again, there really isn’t anyone else out there who you trust the team to.
7. We beat the wings, then they screw it up later and like they always do. Hopefully detroit catches fire and we are rid of the problem.
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