Available Goalies/Ones that teams might be willing to part with
I'm not saying anything new here with the fact that our goaltending is not where it needs to be in order for us to be a serious, competitive team
There're plenty of fine netminders entering free agency, or have worn out the welcome or need to stay in their current situations.
2010 UFA: the easy options
3: Marty Turco, Dallas, current salary of $5,400,000: Still has a few years in him, and has proven himself as a good NHL starter. Shows up most nights, but has really overstayed in the eyes of Dallas fans. If he would take a little price cut from what he's used to, things could work out. Don't really see it happening, though.
2:Antero Niittymaki, Tampa Bay, current salary of $600,000: At 29 years old, Niitymaki has really only began to show himself as worthwhile recently. Having a real solid year splitting time with Smith, but have to worry about him being the next starter who should be a backup.
1. Jose Theodore, Washington, current salary or $4,500,000: Good to great goaltending from this guy, although playing behind a very skilled Capitals team. The 32-year-old veteran is currently their starter, but Varlamov is clearly the future of Washington goaltending.
That being said, the rest of the UFA pool is shallow to say the least.RFAs are pretty deep, though
2010 RFAs, a whole mess of backups
5.Jonas Gustavsson, Toronto, current salary of $810,000: this young swede (24) has been highly touted as the future of the Leafs franchise. Health issues cause worries, and inconsistent play could just be the pressure of Toronto, or it could be just that: inconsistency
4.Antti Niemi, Chicago, current salary of $827,000: Another backup on the list, but easily the best backup, maybe even having one of the best skill sets of the entire list. Classic backup woes cause him to slip down a few slots, but at 25, he still has a few (very few) years to learn.
3.Kari Lehtonen, Dallas, current salary of $3,000,000: if Dallas chooses to stick with Turco, then they'd have to drop Lehtonen. One of the better goaltenders across the board, and has proven himself as a starter at only 25 years of age. Big price tag on him and if the Blues really wanted him, they would have made the trade earlier this year
2.Carey Price, Montreal current salary of $850,000: This good young goalie (21) is that: young and good. Slipping up early in the year, he has taken his share of lumps under the volatile goaltending choices in Montreal. Losing his job to Halak, he still certainly has the ability to start, and succeed, elsewhere.
1.Jaroslav Halak, Montreal current salary of $800,000: The now starter of Montreal, he has kept the Canadiens in the playoff hunt down the stretch. The 24 year old slovak made his Olympic team this year, and has played solid hockey ever since winning the job from Price. Rebound control issues really cause some worry, but is one of the top netminders in the league right now.
Montreal pobably will leave one of the men on the table, but it's possible they'll try to keep them both. There are a few chances for trades around the league right now, but there's no certainty in their availability or price, but some fine choices anyway
3.Jean-Sebastien Giguere, Toronto, $7,000,000: Stanley Cup and Conn Smythe winning goalie, but comes with a massive price tag and waning skill set drops value.
2.Mike Smith, Tampa, $2,400,000 : if the Bolts keeps Niittymaki, there's no reason to keep Smith around. Worries over health shouldn't be too bad,and he's only 28. Overpriced, though.
1.Jonathan Bernier, Los Angeles: unable to find contract information, but this prospect is easily NHL level and might even be ready to start. The Kings don't need another goalie with Jon Quick (who is also really young). Probably the best option as far as any netminders are concerned.
Bernier would really look good in a Bluenote, and so would many of the other men on this list
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hmm
jose has been class, but that was waht 6 years ago? he fell apart for the habs his last season there and never gave enough game to q in the rockies. i know his single “bounce back” season in washington will put him back in the high dollar catagory (and that the ufa goalies are bad this year) BUT… he is basically the same thing we have had for a decade, someone else’s cast a way who is inconstitant at best.
the only way i see the blues actually getting a goalie homerun is a draft day deal that involves us getting a real netminder while giving up a bonifide kid d-man and a bonifide pick (and maybe more although what teams will be looking to carve out money in the net on draft day elude me at the sec
A strong anvil fears no hammer
by Childhood Trauma on Mar 26, 2010 4:53 PM CDT reply actions
See how Theo does in the playoffs. The Caps are a great team, but a heavily offensive team. He has a few Ws that wouldn’t happen if the Caps didn’t score an average of 4 goals a night, but his % and GA is all earned.
Yea, I don’t see Theo being resigned next year unless he brings in a cup, and even then he might not. The Capitals have three great young goalies, Varlamov, Neurvith, and Hotlby, and one of them will be a #1 goalie soon.
Theo and Turco seem the the main options, though both are on the declining edge of their careers. I’m not sure getting any goalie will be better than just resigning Mason. What really needs to happen is a lot of wheeling and dealing to land Vokoun. He might be able to be traded for, and would be a huge boost to the Blues.
I agree totally about the stupidity of the average person. Horrifyingly, nearly 50% of people are even stupider!
Add Ellis/Rinne to the list
You can probably acquire one of them.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Rinne just signed a huge extension
and Ellis is another big time backup
"Get out there on the ice and let 'em know you're there. Get that fuckin' stick in their side. Let 'em know you're there! Get that lumber in his teeth. Let 'em know you're there!"
" Bleed all over 'em. Let 'em know you're there."
by Crapchesterian on Mar 26, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
ok outside the box
Manny Fernandez
plus.
30 game winner
jennings winner as a starter and as a backup
gotta come cheap and short term
minus
former headcase
back/health issues (year off, almost 2 years off out of the last three)
possible retiree (he waffles on it as far as i can tell and is still listed as a free agent on many sources)
we could pretend he is the second coming of grant fuhr and all just wait for his knee(back) to be exploded during a playoff run
A strong anvil fears no hammer
by Childhood Trauma on Mar 26, 2010 6:16 PM CDT reply actions
What about Schnieder?
You know he won’t stay with the nucks. With Luongo in goal he’s up and ready to play somewhere else. I think he wouldn’t be a bad deal to see in a Blue note.
Barret Jackman is my hero.
Fueled. These new shores burn. Shadow, my sweet shadow, to you I look no more.
Crosby and Malkin. Two girls, one cup.
I watched Schnieder when Manitoba would come up to Rochester
He isn’t even close to NHL level yet. Certainly not good enough to carry a team
"Get out there on the ice and let 'em know you're there. Get that fuckin' stick in their side. Let 'em know you're there! Get that lumber in his teeth. Let 'em know you're there!"
" Bleed all over 'em. Let 'em know you're there."
by Crapchesterian on Mar 26, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Not saying you're wrong...
…but there are a lot of pretty knowledgable people around hockey circles who don’t share that opinion of Schneider.
I’d like to get Halak out of Montreal, or Josh Harding from Minnesota. Schneider would be my third choice, then Niemi… but I doubt the Hawks will move Niemi for anything but a blockbuster, “knock our friggin’ socks off” kind of deal.
I’d take Gustafsson, but not for more than $1.5 million per year… if he’ll sign for that ($5 million for three years), starts kicking ass, and shows that his inconsistency was due to the pressure of playing in Hockey Mecca, the Blues can always tear up his old contract and give him a better one
I don’t want any goalies over 30. The next time a 30-year-old starts for the Blues, I want it to be Jake Allen in his tenth season with the NHL club, and with a Stanley Cup ring (or two) on his finger.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://futurenotes.blogspot.com
by Tomorrows Blues on Mar 27, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm under the impression
that you like Allen.
Hockey players wear numbers because you can't always identify the body with dental records.
It is the sweet, simple things of life which are the real ones after all. Laura Ingalls Wilder
Yup
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://futurenotes.blogspot.com
by Tomorrows Blues on Mar 27, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
even after the world juniors?
"Get out there on the ice and let 'em know you're there. Get that fuckin' stick in their side. Let 'em know you're there! Get that lumber in his teeth. Let 'em know you're there!"
" Bleed all over 'em. Let 'em know you're there."
by Crapchesterian on Mar 27, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely...
I’m not going to base my opinion of a player on one game… especially when he’s been dominant at that level before. You do remember the 2008 U18 World Juniors, right? If not, how about his 14 consecutive wins (including three shutouts) to close out this regular season in Drummondville?
The only thing standing between Jake Allen and a spot as the Blues’ no. 1 goalie is experience. Once he gets that in the AHL, probably starting next year, I’m fully confident that the Blues will have developed their first big-time goalie since signing Curtis Joseph as a free agent after his freshman year at Wisconsin.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://futurenotes.blogspot.com
by Tomorrows Blues on Mar 27, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Watching the replay of the Oilers-Ducks game
Khabibulin has a contract into 2012-13, and behind him are Deslauriers and Dubnyk: 2002 and 2004 1st rounders, both RFAs after this season. Deslauriers might be able to full-time start, but Dubs needs more work. Deslauriers is feisty, defends his crease when his teammates don’t stick up for him (which is always).
Should be an interesting off-season.
Montreal theory for insomniacs
We traded Aaron Palushaj for D’Agostini. Weird trade, doesn’t make sense.. Unless you note that the Blues need a No. 1 goaltender and the Canadiens are due to make a goaltending decision this off-season. So we traded Palushaj for D’Ags, with the added bonus of getting their GM’s favor and eventually dibs on the keeper they scrap.
Oswald was a patsy.
Oswald WAS a patsy...
…and maybe there’s something to your theory about re-estabishing the good working relationship that the Blues and Montreal used to have with one another. Old-timers like myself will recall that the Blues and les Habitants used to deal with one another quite often back in the day…
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://futurenotes.blogspot.com
by Tomorrows Blues on Mar 27, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I love me a good conspiracy theory.
And this one makes much sense. I guarantee you that deals get done like this in the NHL, with the wink wink, nod nod form of communication to get around CBA rules and tampering charges and whatnot.
Ohh, fiesty goalies are the best. Landing Deslauriers would be nice. He doesn’t have a great save percentage though, only .902 for the year.
October 2GP – .957
November 7GP – .881
December 13GP – .913
January 6GP – .846
February 8GP – .912
March 8GP – .907
Total 44 GP – .902
Don’t know how much of his fluctuation is due to him, and how much is just being on the shitty Oilers.
I agree totally about the stupidity of the average person. Horrifyingly, nearly 50% of people are even stupider!
Gonna have to point at the team as a whole
Intermissions from last night were just pouring over plays where all five skaters were standing around the net as Deslauriers was swarmed by shots. Hopefully he gets signed somewhere else instead of wasting away behind the Bulin Wall.
The only guy on that list that really intrigues me . . .
is Jaroslav Halak. But we’d have to set a price so high to get him that Montreal wouldn’t even entertain thoughts of matching, which is not something you do for a guy who’s only been a starter for . . . about half a season. And at this point, if Price is reinstalled as their starter, you’ll start hearing about suicide reports and bodies found downstream from Fleuve Saint-Laurent. That wouldn’t be cool.
There are other options. I don’t anticipate Mason being back, and Conklin is a career backup. A part of mje still would like to see one of the Peoria guys get a shot in camp, but there’s money to burn here. I wouldn’t be shocked if a big splash is made, but I’m not sure it should come out of this pack of names. But like hell if I really have a solution, either.
St. Louis Game Time . . . I need another beer.
I think both Bishop and Fallon will get a shot in camp, but...
…I think either of them would have to play completely out of their minds in order to win the starter’s job with the big club.
As Ebenezer Scrooge says in one of the greatest stories ever written, “If I could work my will…”
- Chris Mason and Ty Conklin. Thanks for your service, and here are some lovely parting gifts.
- Welcome to St. Louis, Mr. Harding / Halak…
- Is there room at your folks’ house for you to stay until you find an apartment of your own, Ben?
- The alliterative duo of Fallon and Allen will be making things hot for opponents in Peoria next winter, and the climate in Alaska isn’t much different from that of the Swiss Alps — with plenty of mountains in the neighborhood to boot — so Reto Berra should feel right at home in Anchorage.
- Finally, draft Jack Campbell.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://futurenotes.blogspot.com
by Tomorrows Blues on Mar 27, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
TB do we need another you goalie?
If you think Allen is the future why would we want another great prospect almost the same age?
If he plays for Windsor next yr on a good team, would it be realistic stats?
Curious to see how he does in Worlds next month.
Not knowing where he would expect to be drafted doesn’t help me any though.
We have Bishop, Fallon and Allen up and coming in theory. We have lots of up and coming Dmen.
I’d love to see some Offmen in the pipes quick.
On a related note, how many picks do we have and where in the rounds June?
Hockey players wear numbers because you can't always identify the body with dental records.
It is the sweet, simple things of life which are the real ones after all. Laura Ingalls Wilder
young goalie, not you
Hockey players wear numbers because you can't always identify the body with dental records.
It is the sweet, simple things of life which are the real ones after all. Laura Ingalls Wilder
You can never have too many good young goalies...
Look at San Jose… they built a stable of quality young goalies and then traded them off one by one for players that made them into the solid club they are now (late-season skid notwithstanding).
I’m not saying to draft Campbell in the first round — although that’s likely where he’ll end up going — but if he should fall to the Blues in the second round, by all means, snap him up. Otherwise, pick the best Finnish kid you can find in the third or fourth round, because the Finns always seem to develop the best goalies.
As far as the number of picks the Blues have, right now I believe they just have one in each of the first six rounds, and will probably be picking somewhere in the middle of each round. There are some half-decent offensive prospects who project to be available in the 15-20 range; I’ll detail a few of them for Tuesday’s paper.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://futurenotes.blogspot.com
by Tomorrows Blues on Mar 27, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
You can never have too many young goalies. So true. The Capitals have Varlamov who everyone saw in the playoffs and has talent, but is often injured so might not be the long term solution. Luckily for the Caps, they also have Neuvirth and Hotlby, and of the three one is bound to be a true #1. My current bet is actually on Hotlby.
What happens if the future number one gets hurt like Varly or DiPietro? Having a good backup plan is key.
I agree totally about the stupidity of the average person. Horrifyingly, nearly 50% of people are even stupider!

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