BREAKING NEWS: Jaroslav Halak is now St. Louis' savior; no longer Montreal's.
by hildymac on Jun 17, 2010 2:21 PM CDT
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PrintAs per TSN's fantastic reporter (well, he is right now because of what he tweeted), Jaroslav Halak has been traded to the Blues. Yes, you read that correctly. The latest Patrick Roy du jour of the Montreal Canadiens is now our newest actual real starting goaltender. In case you've forgotten, that hasn't been the case since Grant Fuhr.
Halak was the cornerstone of the Habs' push through the playoffs, being a virtual wall throughout their three series. Despite being eliminated in the Eastern Conference Finals, Halak still finished the playoffs as the top goalie in terms of SV% at .923. During the regular season he finished with a 2.40 GAA and a .924 SV%.
I would say that I hope that Montreal knew what they were doing, but I frankly don't care.
In return, the Blues ship back Lars Eller and Ian Schultz. While I am upset to see a prospect like Eller go, the Blues were in dire need of a solid starting goaltender. Chris Mason put up solid numbers for us in net, but his propensity for softies and the occasional wonky move, he also became a lightning rod of derision. This gives St. Louis a solid starter in net, one of the best back-ups in the league, and a good and growing defensive corps. Remember those blown couple goal leads and one goal losses that kept us out of the playoffs? There's hope now that's a thing of the past.
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good move for the Blues.
let’s just see how Halak does in the Western Conference….
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I waited all year for this?
true
however, those are the two only really good teams in the East. both those teams can be shut down by a few of the teams out west.
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I'm still kind of stunned by this
It’s obvious Lars Eller wasn’t in the Blues plans — the refusal to bring him up this season and the constant murmurs that he’d start the season back in Peoria made it obvious (to me at least) that he was likely on the move.
Let’s hope Halak’s playoff show was less Brent Johnson and more someone who doesn’t suck.
Oh and that he gets signed for a reasonable amount.
Wow. What a steal for the Blues. Even if Schultz and Eller become good players in the NHL, I’m sure Halak’s contributions will probably make the trade look good for STL. But i’m shocked Montreal traded Halak instead of Price.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 17, 2010 2:29 PM CDT reply actions
It had to be all about return value and re-signing cost. They won’t pay Price as much and no way could Price have fetched as much. I still think it’s funny that a team would trade their MVP after a season like that, though “sell high” is probably the way to go. He was playing over his head and there’s no way that’s the real Halak.
I waited all year for this?
F&B — I’m not sure that getting Eller and Schultz is selling high, do you?
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No, I think it’s a real good deal for STL. I meant sell high as in timing, not as in the actual return. You have to think this is the highest Halak’s value was ever going to be.
I waited all year for this?
You are correct, if you decide that you can’t have both Price and Halak and want to go with Price.
That’s the decision I’m questioning.
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it could be a simple case of contracts
maybe negotiations weren’t going to well with jaro so they were forced to keep carey.
who knows. all i know is, the blues have made an effort to address the goaltending situation and that’s awesome.
From what I’ve read the Habs didn’t even talk with Halak. This whole thing is very, very interesting.
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With Montreal’s cap problems, it’s understandable why they’d take the cheaper option. Like you said, the sell high idea works very well. What would they have gotten for Price though? Not much. That being said, with all the mockery price gets, he’s still young and has time. If Price turns out to be the better goalie, the Habs won’t get panned. If Price plays badly, the Habs will take alot of criticism.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 17, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Price definitely has time to work it out, I’m just skeptical that MON is the environment that is going to allow him to do that. He’s under a microscope and he definitely has maturity and consistency issues. It’s hard to work through those when it’s in your face every day. And now, if he slumps at all early in the year he’ll be scapegoated because they gave up Halak. Tough situation for him.
I waited all year for this?
The Habs are probably going to go after Nittymaki or Leighton as their backup plan.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 17, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Good move for the Blues. Given the number of goaltenders out there or available by trade, it’s hard to see another team signing him to an offer sheet.
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I can’t imagine this is speculative. Worst case is probably arbitration, and I don’t think one playoff run that couldn’t have been anticipated will make a difference.
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I like Halak, but losing Lars Eller -- and Ian Schultz -- sucks enormously...
More after work.
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 17, 2010 2:38 PM CDT reply actions
Classic "you have to give to get" trade
I’m both happy and bummed, which tells me it was a fair trade.
I sure hope Halak proves to be better than your typical free agent goalie though. SIgns are promising, but we just don’t know.
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agreed
and its nice to see the blues not hoarding prospects like leprechauns hoard gold. if you have this cache of young talent and only a limited number of roster spots, you have to move them to fill holes.
now lets sign kovalchuk and really move towards not being a team that hopes to makes the playoffs.
I agree with your position about not hoarding prospects. I hope GMGM comes around to that position as well. The problem with the Caps prospects is that they are either exceptional prospects, and thus not available, or they don’t have a ton of trade value.
Signing Kovlachuk? That’s ambitious. Is there any reason to think STL will be in on those negotiations?
I waited all year for this?
Is there going to be an ownership-imposed cap do you think you guys might spend up to the cap?
I waited all year for this?
well
the blues did/are losing their biggest investor so money might be an issue. they have said they arent going to spend, but with season ticket sales down and such, i think they might make a push. kovie is really just a pipe dream. this (halak) will probably be the biggest deal they make.
Gotcha. LAK is the only team I’ve really heard as a suitor for Kovalchuk, but STL does make sense. That would make a pretty scary F corps.
I waited all year for this?
I don't know how realistic Kovie is,
but I’m holding out hope for Patrick Marleau!
That said, if this is the only move we make other than re-signing our major FAs, then we should be a competitive playoff team next year already. [crosses fingers]
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This about sums up the trade. Tweet by the AHL:
Canadiens, Blues swap AHL All-Stars
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I liked Eller's short stint with the Blues
But where was he going to play anyway? Between Oshie, Berglund, Perron, Boyes, McDonald, and Backes, he probably wasn’t going to see too much top-2 line PT anyway for at least a couple years. Meanwhile, Halak provides some semblance of stability in net which just can’t be understated to this franchise.
Not afraid to nitpick
Honestly, what I liked about Eller was that he was the type of talented forward who looked like he could handle plumber’s work on the 3rd or 4th line though. Not the kind of “if I’m not top-six I’m just not myself” type.
But yeah, trading a little bit of later for a little bit of now. Go Slovakia.
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For sure
But you can find a lot more people to do plumber’s work pretty well than you can a capable goalie.
Not afraid to nitpick
Definitely, and when you’re talking about a top 6 guy doing plumber’s work you’ve already identified a problem. If he’s that good you wouldn’t even consider him for 3/4 line work.
I waited all year for this?
Not really
In his development years, while he’s theoretically “blocked” by players who are supposedly better, I don’t see it as a problem. I’m talking about a guy who doesn’t become ineffective if the coach isn’t pampering him with powerplay time and minutes next to the team’s best passer or sniper. A guy who excels 5-on-5 no matter who he plays with.
But then I don’t think capable goalies are that hard to acquire anymore; it’s identifying them that is the bigger challenge. You need more data than is often available.
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This is an absolute STEAL for St. Louis
You’ve done us a huge favour in the NE division.
If you want more laughing at the Habs, here’s Leafs reactions.
Montreal could have gotten a LOT more.
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Awesome pic from that thread
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by joker24 on Jun 17, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Now if you could replace that Hab
with Kane or Zetterturd, I may have a new avatar picture!
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Rec'd like the khawks salary cap
This trade make me happy in pants!!!!
by I_AM_SPARTACUS on Jun 17, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess they thought
that they couldn’t or didn’t want to keep him so get what you can before he goes free agent and someone outbids you for him
No one knows why, but second only to eating the brains of the living, the dead love affordable pre-fab furniture.
For a franchise
That will forever insult us for the horrible Rask-for-Raycroft debaucle, it’s nice to have some ammunition the other way.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jun 19, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I am speechless......
I was expecting them to deal Price Not Jaro…….
Now I want a Halak Jersey….
I still maintain Vladimir Konstantinov got what he deserved...If you can't handle that then kiss my ass......
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Yes.
You still hold his rights I believe.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jun 17, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Congrats to Blues managment for having a pair. Could have waited for July 1 and signed a retread, but to acquire a solid #1 takes cajones. Bravo.
What does this say for Allen and Bishop in the long term?
Now fix the damn escalator, and lower beer prices.
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I thin it just gives Allen more time.....
As for Bishop……this mya be the Death Knel unless Halak goes all Lalime on us……
I still maintain Vladimir Konstantinov got what he deserved...If you can't handle that then kiss my ass......
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i think this means
bishop gets a make or break year in the AHL and then allen gets a few years to show what he’s got.
Wow
This is fantastic stuff!
Once we get him signed I think there’s going to be quite a run on Halak jerseys!
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Haha
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by haveblue on Jun 17, 2010 3:09 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
This is the funniest thing .....
EVER!!
I still maintain Vladimir Konstantinov got what he deserved...If you can't handle that then kiss my ass......
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well that sucks....
i tried to look it up but its been deleted already….
I still maintain Vladimir Konstantinov got what he deserved...If you can't handle that then kiss my ass......
"I've got a bad feeling about this..."
Hahaha
Man, the Habs fans are reeeeeeeally upset, aren’t they?
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 17, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
True
We do love to hate the Habs.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jun 17, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
The Hab fans that are upset...
…like the douchebag above who refers to Eller as one of “:two nobodies,” don’t know jack shit about Lars Eller.
The Habs just got their new Mats Naslund.
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 17, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Only problem is that Mats Naslund was small, and Eller’s probably the biggest guy on the Habs.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 17, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Is this Jarmo packing up his shit and saying “Oh, by the way…Eller’s kind of a scrub. Sell while his stock price is high.”
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Kinda doubt it...
…since Eller was Jarmo’s prime target in the 2007 draft after Voracek.
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 17, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
i think this is doug armstrong
putting his dick down and saying, “this is my team”
by averagejoe on Jun 17, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice trade, finally have someone better in net than Beard.
Upset to see Eller go though, and I’m curious what this means for Bish and Allen.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Jun 17, 2010 3:18 PM CDT reply actions
I have to say, though
after the “REPORT” from earlier, I thought this was a joke.
Then I went to Puck Daddy.
Then I cried.
i too
thought someone was fucking with me. i’m so fucking happy.
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And the day isn't over yet...
Giving up Eller makes me think we’re going to get someone else – maybe at the draft.
Or maybe Paulie Walnuts will re-sign for less money…
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by drfrankentweed on Jun 17, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats what i was thinking
because palushaj for d’agostini made no fuckin sense.
by stlbluesfan029 on Jun 17, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
As soon as I saw this I thought “So THATS what the palushaj trade was all about.” It does sort of suck to see Eller gone, but I think this is a great signing by the Blues.
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All the idiots on the Post website....
Are bitching about giving up Eller……..Someone needs to go over there and tell all the part time hockey fans to shut the hell up…..
I still maintain Vladimir Konstantinov got what he deserved...If you can't handle that then kiss my ass......
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eller will turn out to be a fine player, i think
but it just wont be in stl. like dom said, you gotta give to get. upgrading the net is far better than having a second-line center.
here’s the real question though: do any of them know who halak is, let alone what he just did in the playoffs?
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dont you just have random hockey stuff in the dog days of summer...
It’s just a friendly reminder that the Blues will be playing hockey again soon, believe it or not. Love it!
Now we just need to buy out Brewbot.....
No need to subject the new goalie to that douchebag and his shitty defensive play…
I still maintain Vladimir Konstantinov got what he deserved...If you can't handle that then kiss my ass......
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someone
mentioned brewer for sharp just joking around, but it sorta made me tingle in a dirty place. can i haaaaaave it?
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That was me...
… and while I’d love for it to be true, I don’t think it’s even remotely possible. I have a bad feeling we’re going to be stuck with Captain Flatline for another season.
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that there’s some funny shit.
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by HockeyHippie on Jun 17, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 17, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
My “wavering” Ducks fan friend – who is also a pretty good roller hockey goalie with a big soft spot for the Blues – is rather excited over this.
We may just have recruited another Blues fan….
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Heck yeah, I’m upset. Now there’s someone to challenge Rinne for best goalkeeper in the division, and now instead of patting the Blues on the head and giving them a swirly we’ll have to get all serious. ;)
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, now all that needs to happen for it to be a true rivalry is for the Predators to move to Kansas City
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Oooh, a relocation joke! Aren’t you a clever one!
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks, Sherlock. ;)
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I know you were :). I was pointing out how obvious it was that Nashville > KC.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Nashville’s baseball team is so much better than the Royals anyways…
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 17, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Little League team at the park down the road might be better than the Royals.
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Point missed
A team in KC, especially a fairly competitive one like Nashville is now would be great for the Blues.
Nashville belongs in the East with Carolina, Atlanta, and the two Florida teams.
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Well, in that case, I agree with you. Not to derail the thread, but you’re absolutely right. The conference alignment is all wonky as it stands now. Geographically speaking, Nashville should probably be with the teams you mentioned and winning consecutive division titles.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
See we had to deal Halak to you guys, it was the only way for us to get Colliaiccovo for Hamrlik deal. ;)
You robbed us blind. Seriously good deal for you guys. I can’t sit and watch Price for 7 years to see if he’ll make something of himself. And yeah, I know getting something for him would have been a tougher task, but you have a good goaltender finally getting his shot and making the ost of it in Halak and this is what you do to him????
I have no faith in the GM’s of Montreal right now, unless some crazy deals are in the works for a Patrick Sharp, or Bobby Ryan… I am shutting down hope for 2011. May not even make the play offs….
I’m depressed, more than when Roy walked up to Ronald Cory and said “This is the last game I play for you”. Sad day
by Cruisin4aBruisin on Jun 17, 2010 3:47 PM CDT reply actions
I have to admit that Halak being the one gone surprised me.
Price is good, but I think he lets pressure get to him too much and it breaks his concentration. I really thought, though that after that playoff push Halak was your man. I really don’t understand how your team thinks.
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Somehow I don’t think Price would have wanted to be in the same place as Janssen.
But I’m really happy we picked Halak. Why? Because Halak could play man-to-man against Crosby and Ovechkin, and was superb against the skilled teams of Pittsburgh and Washington. The only team that he wavered against was Philadelphia, which could easily be chalked up to their physical play and forecheck.
The Blues are a defensive team that plays physical, but need a goaltender who can stand up against the skilled teams. That’s Halak.
Not to mention that Alex Ovechkin called him out in the press during their playoff series, said he was “shaking” in fear. Halak didn’t respond, wanted to keep his head on the game and not the trash-talk — and look who won that series.
Yeeeah - awkward conversation there.
That’s how I feel about Halak too, though – the East might have been a weaker conference this year, but it’s got some of the biggest snipers in the game, and he was solid every step of the way for them.
I’m still convinced that Price would be a really solid goaltender if he were somewhere else that wasn’t a bit, um, fixated on him.
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He still might be, it just might take him until he’s Halak’s age to get there…mwahaahhahaha!
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Price's like, what, 15?
He looks like it. What did a Leafs fan call him once… “Smokie McPuffington?”
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Bloge Salming (or DGB) called him “Smokey Mcfornicate” in the video Eulogy
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 17, 2010 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Thaaaaaaaaaaaaat's what it was.
I need to go back and watch those again – pure classic stuff.
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i think we all need to go over to HEotP
and just say thanks. i feel it’d be a kind gesture.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Now confirmed by Globe and Mail.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
St. Louis has had a busy day.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jun 17, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel like we've done more today than we have in the past 2 seasons. Geeze.
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by hildymac on Jun 17, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd like Cary Price's approval rating in Montreal
Was thinking the same thing.
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there's a new gm in charge
and hes spent some time watching shit get stale.
i really think new gm, plus motivation from watching chicago win the cup after a few pro-active offseason may have lit a fire under the blues ass.
Would "REC" this 10 times if I could...
I like Hensick quite a bit, and think he brings more to Peoria than Talbot had.
B.
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 17, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Me too. Will see if he's ever more than a 4th liner, but he does have talent.
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by HockeyHippie on Jun 17, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Can we all please stop whining about the Palushaj - D'Agostino trade now?
Rumors at the time was that it was a quid pro quo for getting right of first refusal on a goalie.
For the life of me I never thought it would be Halak after the show he put on in the playoffs.
Thank you, Montreal
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I don't think I heard that about right of first refusal,
but it’s damn interesting.
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Yeah, that trade was so out of left field I could almost believe there being a side story. But I don’t understand it. WTF is the quid pro quo for? “Here, try this first prospect for free. If you like it, come back for another hit but you’ll have to pay full price, er, Halak.”
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Well, when it happened, I reasoned that we did some house-cleaning for Montreal by giving them promising prospect Palushaj for old-news D’Agostini, in exchange for dibs on whichever RFA goaltender lost the battle for #1 spot. Halak lost out, and rather than juggle two starting goaltenders again Montreal made good on their deal.
The dibs deal was Palushaj for D’Ags, and the meat of the trade was Halak for Eller/Schultz.
But it doesn’t really matter now. We got our #1 goalie, the one thing this franchise has been ignoring for over a decade. I’m loving the new management.
I get the theory, I just don’t follow why it would be necessary, why you don’t clear all the baggage in one swap. Unless Gauthier demands a nice dinner and a gentleman’s first date before he provides the goods.
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Wow
You guys lucked out.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2010 4:29 PM CDT reply actions
Hmm
“Russostrib” is saying on twitter:
Source: the Wild offered Josh Harding to St. Louis for some time and inquired about Lars Eller “and couldn’t get him.”
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All that means is that the Blues thought more of Halak than they did of Harding...
…and I’m not sure I buy the “offered Harding to STL for some time” bit.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 17, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe minnesota is that annoying younger sibling
calling every day. you sure you dont want harding …
but hey, it looks like we werent the only ones to notice the blues needed help in net.
Could also be that the Wild wanted Ellerand...
… as in “Eller and a pick”, or “Eller and Some Guy”. We’ll never know.
"Ellerand"
Is that anything like a Krugerrand?
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 17, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Reminds me of
Uncle Leo from Seinfeld.
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by Chuckles Canuckles on Jun 17, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
what the habs fan think?
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=787578&page=3
A strong anvil fears no hammer
by Childhood Trauma on Jun 17, 2010 5:50 PM CDT reply actions
Geez... after reading that nonsense...
…it’s hard to determine which is the bigger collection of docuherockets — that forum, or The Asylum.
I’m stunned at the number of people in a place that supposedly lives and breathes hockey, and who don’t have the foggiest notion of Lars Eller’s game or what he’s capable of.
B.
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 17, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed. Eller’s a great guy, will be a great player. Still, I kinda understand them being frustrated about not even getting a full fledged roster player.
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by Marcus E Pettersson on Jun 17, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully this means the Blues will actually get a good goaltending coach
With Allen and Bishop in the system, and a real #1 Goaltender finally in our hands, the least management can do is go big on coaching them. I just don’t want them to mess this up by not paying these guys enough attention.
by russkidan on Jun 17, 2010 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 17, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
GG is orgasmic. The biggest need for this team and it gets taken care of. What a concept!
russkidan, I am so much in agreement with you. We need a goaltending coach to keep Halak sharp. And another guy in Peoria for Bishop and later, Allen. All I can say is that I honestly thought with Halak’s performance in net over the last half of the season and the playoffs (53 saves in a game? That’s sick!) that Price was the guy on the rail out of Montreal.
He can go one of two ways – Brent Johnson (million-dollar talent, two cent head)or Patrick Roy (just get me to the big game, and I’ll do the rest.) In the pressure cooker that’s a Canadiens’ jersey, I’m leaning towards Brent given the maturity issues Carey seems to have.
Eller has a chance to be special, but not next year, and this organization needed to do something to put the buzz back in the Scottie. Now we look like we’re serious about putting pieces of the puzzle together.
Of course, Halak could regress, but he’s not going to be a Lalime head case. Completely different situation. I’m stoked, and happy to see that they’re doing something with my season ticket money.
Hensick improves the team’s speed. So far, Armstrong is aggressive.
by The Goalie Guy on Jun 18, 2010 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions
YES!
Just had a stupid fight w/ the gf, turn the computer on — “Halak to Blues”. Fucking aewsome.
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by Marcus E Pettersson on Jun 17, 2010 6:27 PM CDT reply actions
Nah something ive noticed
I was usually right whenever my last girlfriend wanted to argue cause she was nuts and argued about crazy stupid bullshit. So whenever I would start putting the hammer down with 3 point essays on my rightness she would just go all nuclear and in the end it totally wasn’t worth it to win so I was just “yeah whatever” and somehow that counts as woman winning. Im tired of women getting “yeah whatever” counted as a win for them.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
Dude, you got two choices in life...
… let her win, or get a really comfortable couch.
Fuck that
Im tired of rolling over and dying whenever any of my girlfriends cant accept sanity. Its not about appeasing anymore damnit. Its about dignity. Its about respect.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
As someone who usually manages to attract namby pamby pantywastes...
… I approve this. I always hated it when everyone just agreed with me. Usually that shows that you’re not listening, and if you don’t listen how are we supposed to have a, um, conversation?
And as someone who is a natural born appeaser as well, trust me – that’s no fun either. But it’s genetic, so I roll wit it.
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you have not learned the art
of ‘yes dear’?
Grasshopper has much to learn
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Absolute steal of a trade, assuming his playoff crusade against goal scoring was no fluke.
BUT
How much do we spend to retain his services long term?
I’m hoping for one of those cap avoiding long term deals with a cap hit between 4 and 5 million dollars.
No beer and no TV make Homer...something something.
by Poor College Student on Jun 17, 2010 6:31 PM CDT reply actions
I don't care too much as long as:
A) he doesn’t jump to the KHL, and B) we can still afford our youngin’s.
I know it's time for hockey because I've started singing "Don't Stop Believing" with the words "...born and raised in FUCK DETRIOT!!!"
i think he gets 3 years
to see if he can prove hes a no. 1. perfect time for him to show what hes made of and let allen develop.
and they were going to pay mason 3 mil a year so 4 or 6 isnt too bad for a better goalie.
At this point
I’m just assuming the 6 million we were paying Kariya last season will now go to someone who has a much, much better shot at actually earning it.
No way he gets more than 6 mil, right?
No beer and no TV make Homer...something something.
by Poor College Student on Jun 17, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't think he'd get more than $6MM...
…but I hear that his agent is a jackass. So who knows?
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 17, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
his agent
is the same as perron and roman polak. the blues have worked with him before — the polak deal was very fair.
the blues have worked with him before
Does Armstrong now being the GM make any difference here?
No beer and no TV make Homer...something something.
by Poor College Student on Jun 17, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe there will some hoop jumping......
we could piss him off and lose out on Perron and Halak. But money talks and when money talks agents listen.
Why is patience a virtue and procrastination a sin...I mean whats wrong with patiently procrastionating?
Great duo goalie name Conk&Lak
Why is patience a virtue and procrastination a sin...I mean whats wrong with patiently procrastionating?
The Client and Conkblock
Wysh says best nickname tandem in the league
(Halak is The Client because his agent, Allan Walsh, got into some hot water comparing Price to his client.)
First I saw of this
was a post somewhere saying “The Client and Conkblock, what a great pair of goalie names”, and I thought “fuckin’ a, we traded Conks to Montreal for rights to Carey Price?”. I am extremely happy to see that we are on the “FUCK YES” end of this deal.
I started watching Montreal games when I could after seeing Halak play well in the Olympics and hearing rumors he could be available after the season. I was really impressed and hoping he would be available for the Blues, but wrote off any hope after the playoffs. This is easily the most excited I’ve been for a Blues trade in recent memory.
this could be so awesome, but so bad too
This has the potential to be the most awesome trade the Blues have made in recent memory. I am a little scared though.
Halak is a Blue for 13 or so days. What if they can’t sign him? What’s to stop Montreal from finding a taker for Price, and then offering Halak a huge ass contract the Blues can’t match? Then the Blues are out a starting goalie AND a future offensive star in Eller.
Also, the name STEVE MASON jumps out at me. He was a brick wall one year and then last year blew balls. I hope to God Halak doesn’t do that.
On the other hand, if the Blues can lock him up long term and if Halak can play like he did last year, or even close, what a great deal for the Blues! A couple pieces, or one big piece to the offensive puzzle, and the Blues could be a scary team next year.
Either way, kudos to the Blues for not sitting around watching all the other teams have fun. Can’t move forward standing still. Fingers crossed!!
The return is based on the price.
We would get atleast a first and third for halak.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
I did not know that
Pretty nice upside.
by keepinthehope on Jun 17, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
RFA Compensation 2009-10 was as follows:
$994,433 or below – No Compensation
$994,434 – $1,506,717 – 2010 3rd round pick
$1506,718 – $3,013,433 – 2010 2nd round pick
$3,013,433 – $4,520,150 – 2010 1st round pick, 2010 3rd round pick
$4,520,151 – $6,026,867 – 2010 1st round pick, 2010 2nd round pick, 2010 3rd round pick
$6,026,868 – $7,533,584 – 2010 1st round pick, 2011 1st round pick, 2010 2nd round pick, 2010 3rd round pick
Over $7,533,584 – 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 1st round picks.
If the cap stays flat, the compensation schedule ought to remain flat, also. I think the Blues would definitely auto-match any offer sheet under the $3M plateau, and would probably match one in the $4.5M range as well. If someone were insane enough to offer more than $7.5M, the Blues would probably take the picks.
I don’t see how you’d get more than a 1st and a 3rd.
I’m pretty sure that was the mentality of the trade – former 1st and 3rd round picks by the Blues, I guess the Habs just wanted the more developed prospects rather than the wild card picks.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jun 19, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Late to the party
heard this on the way home from work on KMOX
I’m just on the fence on this one. Maybe if we can get a scorer I’ll feel better.
Maybe the Blues think we have those scorers under Payne.
I’m just not sure.
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in theory
the blues should have ample offense now to win more games than last year. if halak continues being all that and a bag of chips and a solid defensive corp, 2 or 3 goals a game will win us a lot more games next year than last. not saying the blues don’t need some more offense, but a solid goalie will help steal a few games when our current offense can’t.
by keepinthehope on Jun 17, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess congrats are in order. :)
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Why do I see JD
bellowing out an “Oh baby!” when he hears this deal is finalized.
Also I can’t imagine us not signing him after this, I mean with the Perron connection to the agent I have to believe the Blues knew the unofficial price before agreeing to the trade.
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Blues and Halak camp have already spoken tonight. Nothing substantive but St Louis not wasting any time
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
Walshes twitter
Phone lines burning up…anything going on today?
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
Yes, I'm late to the party. Left work sick this afternoon.
But . . . THIS IS TEH AWESOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Again, it blows that Skeet has to go, and Schultz . . . well, the Habs obviously have more of a need for sizable players than we do at this point.
And to think I believed this was a motherfucking PIPE DREAM that we could land The Client. Un fucking real. I LOVE IT!
St. Louis Game Time . . . I need another beer.
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Just woke up at 7pm
THIS TRADE MAKES ME HAPPY IN PANTS…
Now we need a top 6 fwd and a top 4 dman and we are set. Hate to see Eller go and hope it don’t bite us in the ass. But this is awsome!!!!
by I_AM_SPARTACUS on Jun 17, 2010 10:08 PM CDT reply actions
TITS
totally psyched about this trade
exactly the shot in the arm this team needs
This is awesome news
What a hell of a late birthday/early Father’s Day gift
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If giving up prospect development camp means that the team will make exciting summer moves like this every year, then I don’t care if I never see another 17-year-old kid in a yellow jersey on the ice again!
We need a left winger
Also this image keeps getting resized bigger.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
you know who plays left wing
that kovalchuk guy. just saying.
by averagejoe on Jun 18, 2010 1:41 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't know with that set-up that we'd have the space to pay for him.
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3 mill for Steen?
I’m not saying he isn’t worth it based on last year, but I’m thinking he gets more around 2-2.5
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I thought
I would never love another goaltender after Manny. Halak makes me hopful.
My Hatred of detriot Knows no Bounds.
Making a rare appearence to post about this huge fucking trade
Basically, I don’t have internet access or TV at the moment (save basic channels). Yesterday, I get a text, which led to this text back and forth
Friend: “Lars for not Price?”
Me: “We did what!?”
Friend: “Traded Lars for Halak”
Me: “…We did what!?!?!?”
After getting details on the full trade, I wasn’t sure what to think. There is downside to this trade. Halak just has one year to go on as a top line goalie, and he wasn’t a full time starter for the entire year. He’s an RFA that will cost about 4 mill at minimum. We also dealt away Lars Eller, who I thought was a lock for top 9 minutes. There is downside, make no mistake.
But it just doesn’t match the upside. Halak stood on his head for 2 rounds and was easily the biggest reason why Washington or Pittsburg were sitting at home watching the Stanley Cup finals this year. And it’s not like he was a chump in the reguler season: He ranked 4th in the NHL in save percentage. He’s only 25, so we have reason to believe he’ll still be a longterm starting option, and we were able to pull this trade of for a combined 2 NHL goals in the past. I wish well to Eller, but this was a trade that they couldn’t afford not to make if it was on the table. Well done.
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oh, additional note
I was one of those guys who thought Price was the answer in St. Louis, and we should trade for him. That’s because I didn’t think Montreal was stupid enough to trade Halak. Obviously, I underestimate Montreal’s case of stupid.
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