Blues Trade David Rundblad, Draft Vladimir Tarasenko In First Round UPDATED
(UPDATED WITH INFO FROM GAME TIME PROSPECT DEPARTMENT)
The team pulled off the draft's first officially-recorded trade -- an earlier deal involving Vancouver and Florida was not registered until Florida selected WHL forward Quinton Howden with the 25th selection that they acquired from Vancouver -- and then reached across the Atlantic to select Vladimir "T-72" Tarasenko from HC Sibir Novosibirsk of the KHL (where his father Andrei is the head coach), making him the Blues' first-ever Russian first-round pick.
In order to be in a poisaition to draft Tarasenko, the Blues traded their 2009 first-round selection (17th overall) David Rundblad to the Ottawa Senators in exchange for the 16th overall pick in this year's draft (LINK to article at TSN.ca). McKenzie ranked Tarasenko exactly where the Blues got him - 16th overall - in his final analysis of 2010 draft-eligible players (LINK to McKenzie's rankings at TSN.ca), and had this to say about the young Russian:
Russian forward Vladimir Tarasenko is a gifted goal-scorer and elite offensive talent and showed up to the NHL combine with one of the most physically mature and impressive physiques, a Russian tank of sorts (think Vladimir Krutov in really, really good shape), but he is a draft wild card because of the Russian Factor. Top 10 ability, where he ends up is anybody’s guess.
In 42 games for HC Sibir, Tarasenko put up a 13-11-24 scoring line (plus-9, 18 PM, 2 PPG, 3 GWG). Central Scouting had Tarasenko ranked second among Europeans for the 2010 draft; ISS ranked him 4th overall, and The Hockey News ranked him 14th overall.
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Didn't see this one coming. After the Blues drafted Jaden Schwartz at 14 overall, they traded to the Ottawa Senators David Rundblad, their first round pick last season, for the 16th overall selection. They picked Russian forward Vladimir Tarasenko. We're as surprised as you are.
Rundblad just signed his first pro contract two weeks ago. He's a defenseman in Sweden and wasn't expected to come to North America for at least one more year. Tarasenko, well Bob McKenzie was drooling on the air over the Russian's skill level.
Tarashenko was born in December 1991. From Wikipedia (all info assumed mostly correct):
Tarasenko's learned from his father, Andrei, who was a former Russian league scoring champion and Olympian.[1] He made his professional debut with HC Sibir Novosibirsk in 2008–09, scoring seven goals and ten points in 38 games and was the runner up in voting for rookie of the year.[2][3] He was released to play with the junior team at the 2009 IIHF World U18 Championships where he scored eight goals in seven games and was named a tournament all-star as Russia won a silver medal.[1] Tarasenko returned to Sibir in 2009–10 as the sixth youngest player in the KHL.[1] He again represented Russia, at the 2010 World Junior Ice Hockey Championships, finishing third in team scoring with five points in six games.[4]
International Scouting Services ranked Tarasenko as the top ranked European skater, and fourth overall, in its mid-term rankings for the 2010 NHL Entry Draft.[5] Described by scouts as strong and mobile with no glaring weaknesses, Tarasenko has expressed in interest in playing in the National Hockey League,[1] though his father, also his coach with Sibir, believes it is important that his son remains in Russia for the near future.[3]
It will be interesting to hear from the front office on the workings of this trade. It appeared on stage that the Blues did have Tarashenko's name on the back of his sweater that he put on for the customary photo.
There's a long-running story in Canada about Russians and their desire to play in the NHL and for the Cup. The number of Russians in the league is down, there's competition from the KHL for players and then there's the fact that European players haven't exactly stuck around in Peoria indefinitely.
Even with the accolades for Tarashenko's skill level, all of the Euro/Russian red scare talk makes this a really intriguing and possibly risky pick. He could be a great contributor, but will it be in the KHL or the NHL?
From Jackets Cannon:
The 2nd highest ranked European player according to NHL Central Scouting, and fourth ranked prospect overall according to International Scouting Services, Tarasenko was first runner up for the KHL's 2009 rookie of the year award, playing with HC Sibir. The son of Andrei Tarasenko, former RSL scoring champion and Olympian, he's an attractive talent, but the question of how difficult it might be to get him out of Russia could make him a bit too much of a gamble for many teams.
One side note, Lou Korac who writes about the Blues says Tarasenko's North American agent is former Blues goaltender...Mike Liut. Interesting.
Again, expect more from the Prospect Department.
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I love this move.
I’m going to stop interviewing prospects though.
First Palushaj, now Rundblad.
I’m sorry Ian Cole if you get traded.
by Randall Ritchey on Jun 25, 2010 8:38 PM CDT reply actions
AUUUGGGHHHHHH!
Two years in a row. Got a tiny guy with big heart (would have rather had Bjugstad). And a Russian with all-world talent (who probably won’t set foot in the US unless he’s guaranteed a spot on the first two lines and no minor league hockey ever). Like the Rundblad deal, but is it smart to pick any Russian player in the first round these days? Especially when his father/coach says he’s going to stay in Russia (for now)?
As much as I'd love to have a "Mr. Hockey"
Bjugstad is too slow.
I think I’d sill rather have him than the Russian or the Lilliputian, come to think of it.
Carry on
"Everyone knows everybody loves fights. They better start listening to the people who are at the game and pay the money than the twits upstairs who get in for free."
by Crapchesterian on Jun 25, 2010 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
man, you guys kind of excised the last sentance of that first paragraph of the wikipedia article that says he wears a cage because of a previous injury. wonder what that is about.
Judging by the photo
I’m guessing some sort of mouth injury.
Barret Jackman is my hero.
Fueled. These new shores burn. Shadow, my sweet shadow, to you I look no more.
heres some stuff:
http://www.russianprospect.com/vladimir-tarasenko
the music on those highlight videos might be justify the pick all by itself.
He looks like the woman with downs I am taking care of right now.
"I wanna be an achiever like Bad Horse.... I meant Ghandi" ~ Dr. Horrible
There is no team that I’d really like to draft me. My dream is to play in the NHL, that’s all.
Vladimir Tarasenko on April 20, 2010 @ Sportsdaily.ru
Maybe that’s good news?
Still not sure about drafting Red Wings Europeans/Russians. But we’ll see.
The way I see it
The Blues spent their 1st round draft pick on the player they really wanted, Schwartz, who should develop into a second Oshie for the team. The Blues, seeing that the Senators were eying David Rundblad — one of our many, many defenders — decided to offer him a way to take a gamble on a Russian scoring phenomenon. The answer to the “Russian Question” for Tarasenko will be the one that determines if this pick is a boom or bust, but I have high hopes for him; he has expressed huge interest in wanting to be in the NHL (which you could see when he ran up to the stage and received his jersey with a beaming smile), and the Blues’ recent reacquisition of Nikita Nikitin proves that Armstrong will follow up and remain dedicated to any Russian players the Blues are interested in.
I, for one, am proud of how the Blues did this year’s 1st round.
by russkidan on Jun 25, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Spot-on, good sir... spot-on.
The answer to the "Russian Question" for Tarasenko will be the one that determines if this pick is a boom or bust, but I have high hopes for him; he has expressed huge interest in wanting to be in the NHL (which you could see when he ran up to the stage and received his jersey with a beaming smile), and the Blues’ recent reacquisition of Nikita Nikitin proves that Armstrong will follow up and remain dedicated to any Russian players the Blues are interested in.
The Blues didn’t qualify RFA Nikolai Lemtyugov, which I was kind of hoping they would do… but I think that your last sentence is an indication that the Blues aren’t afraid of “The Russian Factor.”
The signing of Evgeny Skachkov has apparently turned out to be a false report, which is too bad, but that, the Nikitin signing (a follow-up to Armstrong’s trip to Russia last season), and the move to draft Tarasenko all indicate to me that the Blues seem to have learned a lesson for their experiences with Russians in the past, and those experiences have helped them chart a new direction forward in regards to how they approach Russian players.
B.
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 26, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Myself, I think it's a great pick...
The kid wants to play in the NHL.
He was second on his team in scoring at age 18 in the KHL.
The Blues brought Berglund right to the NHL from a lower-level European league (the Allsvenskan), and never made him play in Peoria.
I like it.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 25, 2010 10:32 PM CDT reply actions
did you hear i think it was jp talking to JD?
it sounded like tarasenko told rutherford he wanted to immediately start working on buying out his contract so he could get to the blues faster. How awesome is that?
by dicktrickle on Jun 25, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
igniore the pick
what about the trade(s). the blues dumping well thought of top round picks— an indication of developemental issues? an issue of organizational unhappyness by the prospects? or simply the reality that you can’t trade signed players in the current nhl salary cap world?
A strong anvil fears no hammer
by Childhood Trauma on Jun 26, 2010 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I think #3, with a side order of...
…the reality that — at least in Rundblad’s case — the Blues simply had more prospects than they would have room for in the short term.
Prospects are accumulated for two reasons:
1. To re-stock your talent pool from within on a continuing basis. This is the area of layer development and drafting that I like.
2. To provide your club with a ready supply of tradeable players so that as organizational areas of need arise, you can deal from a position of strength to address them. This is the area of player development and drafting that i don;t care for much, but it’s a necessary evil.
In Eller’s case, it’s simply of matter f the Blues having to give talent in one area in order to acquire talent in another. Unless you’re dealing with a GM who has Mike Milbury-caliber brainpower, you’re going to have to give in order to get, and a talent like Eller was the price the Blues had to pay in order to get a player (Halak) that would be a long-term solution to an ongoing organizational issue.
Seeing as how they’d recently signed Rundblad, and hat he was living in St. Louis with Al Macinnis while doing his off-season training here, I don’t think that trading him was a matter of the Blues being dissatisfied with his development, or of Rundblad being unhappy with the Blues. It was, again, a matter of having to give in order to get, and of the Blues being able to deal from a position of organizational strength (defense prospects) to address an area of organizational need (forward prospects with world-class talent and good size).
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 26, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
in eller you could argue
the blues traded from strength to need to be sure, but the other ones. not at all. a 4th line center isnt a need and a swap a mid 1st pick with a year of development under him for a mid first pick with prob at least a year in the k before he hits america dont answer team needs.
also didnt include “doug armstrong factor” since we are assuming this is being done with his official command and control and whilehe WAS a member of the team that drafted these guys he is now THE guy in charge of the blues. and that could make a big difference in valuatons.
i’ve no problem swapping for legit needs. i am slightly concerned about swappong parts for parts though. if THAT trend continues i gotta start wondering….
A strong anvil fears no hammer
by Childhood Trauma on Jun 26, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
The Rudblad swap and Tarasenko pick may not address IMMEDIATE team needs...
…but in the NHL, you don’t draft players to address immediate team needs unless you’re drafting in the top three or so.
A young power forward with scoring upside is absolutely an organizational need; the only pro player in the organization right now who has the size and scoring upside to fill that role is Tyler Shattock, and power forward isn’t his primary playing style; he’s more a Joe Thornton type, a big guy with finesse.
Tarasenko is following in the footsteps of Backes and Oshie.
As for Armstrong having different ideas of the value of Eller, Schultz and Rundblad, that could very well be… but I can’t imagine that his notion of their value to the organization could have been markedly different from that of Kekalainen and Pleau. I just don’t see Armstrong as Stanley McChrystal here…
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 26, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
granted but the point of
stacking picks is to use them or turn them into needs via trades, not just keep rolling them into future versions of the same guy. heck if we trade our 2015 first round pick we will not get a 2011 first round pick. future value is always discounted in the present. the year of development on runblad should have been worth more than a single slot in the draft- unless something else is up.
again one of the trades is for a 4th line (3rd line if we get lucky) center. one was a prospect reshuffling with perhaps little gain (unless one wants to negate some fo the russian “fall” due to the transfer situation and/or devalue rundblad a year later) only one prospect we traded to date has really been for a need. event the talbot trade was more a “lets see if change of scenery will help the youth” deal, not a hole filled.
what would we need to add to talbolt runblad and Palushaj to address a second line center need? eh. do we still have the bullets to land one in a trade should someone become available?
do i have a problem with getting a goalie? not really. a 4th line center? yea. reshuffling prospect strenghts? in general yes. in this case not so much.
just seems odd that the blues are really cutting some highly ranked guys after very little time in the organization and have, to date, fixed one real 2011 NHL need and still having serval holes in the loo….
A strong anvil fears no hammer
by Childhood Trauma on Jun 26, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
This isn't the NFL or NBA...
The people drafted (unless there’s a franchise player available in the first pick) aren’t ready to address any immediate need. This is more like the baseball draft where the immediate impact guys are gone by #3, and everybody else is judged on potential. And that’s the problem with trading barely-developed prospects for established players (along with the salary cap). Rundblad, unless he had shown NHL readiness (in which case the Blues probably would have kept him) is worth little more than a draft pick, because his value is still based on potential. Those three guys might have been able to get you a swing #2/#3 center, because established value is always worth more than potential. If you want a real live #2 center, then we’re looking at waving bye-bye to Backes, Oshie, Perron, Polak, or EJ, because that’s established value for established value. Unless you’re Mike Milbury.
by The Goalie Guy on Jun 26, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
true
tope 3 picks maybe. but that is why swapping runblad for a different guy in the same spot in teh draft a year later is a move that one SHOULD think about neither runblad nor the russian are anywhere near ready to take a top spot on a nhl club and by the time they ARE ready no one knows what the blues needs will be so losing an assert serval years off that may or may not pan out to get a DIFFERENT assest just as far if not farther off and just as risky is weird :)
lateral moves are one thing, but this is a minor league lateral using a guy who ovbiously had some trade value to at least one team and not fixing some scoring holes in the big club….
again did runblad not meet expectations?
A strong anvil fears no hammer
by Childhood Trauma on Jun 26, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m not sure who the 4th line center you keep talking about is — Hensick? Hensick isn’t a 4th line center, and will have a tough time even breaking the NHL roster if he doesn’t learn how to give and take hits. Hensick wasn’t a trade about prospects, it was a trade because the Peoria Rivermen lost a scorer in Eller and Colorado needed to get something in return for Hensick (because he wanted to leave their organization).
Anyway, Davidson said after the trade that Rundblad couldn’t even factor into the team’s plans, saying: “It’s very difficult to fit a Johnson, Pietrangelo, and Rundblad on your team at the same time. There’s not enough ice, there’s not enough powerplay time.” Ottawa was sour about not getting the pick they wanted this year, and they wanted Rundblad (who is going to be coached by someone next year that is in Ottawa’s organization). The Blues knew he was expendable, and moved him for a scoring phenomenon that is already playing professionally.
Just trust Armstrong. He’s spent a long time examining the organization, and he’s been aggressive with getting the players the team needs. He got us our starter, he’s balancing out the forward/defender scales in our organization, and he’s setting up a winner.
the guy we got
for aaron p
A strong anvil fears no hammer
by Childhood Trauma on Jun 26, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
i understand log jams
im talking about converting the log jam into something other than nhl help :)
how long has this team said there will come a time to convert our youg guys into people who can fill the teams nhl needs? for like 3 years :). they didnt do it consistantly with the young guys they have traded. that is my only point and concern.
that is the blues BAP draft plan mantra. and i know your also a bap guy. me? not so much : ).
while the blues “have no plans” for him mpw. in threeyears the blues still sure they not going to need him but in four years they will need a russian?!? :)
we deep at d this moment but stripping out weaver, jackman and brewer over the next 3 years leaves a vastly different d squad with a vastly different need situation and that assumes polak, and petro, and johnson continue to progess/perform and stay healthy.
so again, is the nhl so screwed up these guys (the 4 decent prospect the blues have recently traded that did not net a goalie) can’t grab a second line center? that no one wants to touch other teams youth? that the blues refuse to pick up anyone that has a contract?
i’m just askin’ dude :)
A strong anvil fears no hammer
by Childhood Trauma on Jun 26, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
As for D’Agostini, the guy the Blues traded for Palushaj.. I have a feeling that management was doing house-cleaning for the Habs to gain favor when it came for them to move one of their goalies. I usually count his loss as going towards the Halak acquisition.
But I understand what you mean. It just seems though that the Blues have a lot of promising prospects but all in the wrong places. When we needed forwards, we grabbed a bunch of centers who weren’t all that great at scoring. When we needed defense, we grabbed a lot more than we had room for. The team needed scoring wingers, and it needed a starting goaltender. Davidson has a policy that is absolutely against trading away the young players on the NHL roster, so who can we deal to fill those gaps?
Prospectsssss.
We deal another center and some physical-wingers in our system to land a young starting goaltender. We trade our newest first-round defense prospect in order to secure Russian scoring left-winger Tarasenko in addition to an all-around offensive player in Schwartz. The team has gone with a best-pick available system, but now Armstrong is trying to turn those into what the team needs.
tl;dr – Right now, the Blues seem to have what they need: Scoring wingers in the system, centers populating the Top 6 of the NHL roster, defensive prospects in the pipeline, and a young starting goaltender along with back-ups and Allen developing. The Blues might try to improve the wings, but I think Armstrong has what he needs to start building the team. If the Blues continue to throw their prospects around like confetti after this point, then we can start freaking out.
I'm excited.
The Russian Question Mark is there, but the kid’s got loads of talents. I love this Jarmo quote:
"If his name was Walt Smith, he would have been long gone at 16."
…ok, back to bed. 5 am draft updates are fun, but so is sleep.
This pick is great
Tarasenko could be the best player in the draft when its all said and done. Granted that’s something you can say about a lot of potential project players, but this guy isn’t even a project. If you’ve seen him play you know the guy is an absolute beast.
He still has 2 more years on his KHL contract I believe, so what’s most likely to happen is he’ll play out that contract and then head over to the states. AHL time shouldn’t be an issue because he’ll be good enough to play for the Blues.
Guy it easily a top 10, maybe top 5, or top 3 talent in this draft. He’s a hard nosed, physical player who scores goals. Love the pick.
He passed up Jon Quick and Peter Stasny.
And it’s not for lack of wanting to draft a netminder-Bishop was drafted that round.
He also drafted Marek Scwarz….another goalie. First round. Passed up Mike Green to get this bust.
Let’s not forget Tomas Kana 31st overall
I know hindsight is 20/20, but look at the two BUST Czechs there, Schwarz and Kana. Avoided some good talent to risk it on those guys, who never panned out as we’d like…or at all
I vote nay
"Everyone knows everybody loves fights. They better start listening to the people who are at the game and pay the money than the twits upstairs who get in for free."
by Crapchesterian on Jun 25, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
With all due respect...
..I’m starting to get a little weary of everyone and his brother bitching about how “Jarmo and the Blues passed up Paul Stastny.”
Every-goddamn-body passed on Stastny at least once.
Move on, for pity’s sake.
Maybe a “monument” to Kekalainen is a little too much, but anyone who will emphasize the few misses — misses that every Director of Scouting, no matter who he is, will make — and ignore the plentitude of quality prospects that this man is responsible for adding to this organization, is missing the boat big time.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 26, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Scouting isn't quite spinning a roulette wheel...
But, pinning your hopes on an 18-year old who may not be physically developed, and sure as all hell isn’t mentally developed isn’t a sure thing. I look at the sources that give the Blues’ prospects high marks, and the issue becomes more of development than scouting and drafting. Obviously the Sens thought Rundblad was enough of a stud that he could address a need that none of the remaining players on the board could, at least not in the same amount of time.
Everybody in hockey thought Schwarz was the real deal, and that the Blues were lucky he’d fallen as far as he did. If you’re talking hindsight busts, let’s look at Alexi Yashin. Guess they avoided some good talent to risk on that guy, too. While I would have liked to see the team pick up more size up front than they did at 14, Jarmo’s more than earned the benefit of the doubt over his tenure.
I also hear that Kana is doing better in the BJ organization. Amateur Scouting and drafting is only one part of the picture.
by The Goalie Guy on Jun 26, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
A monument? No.
But I’d love for the Blues to be able to schedule a day for their former draft wunderkind to spend with a 35-pound silver trophy, as thanks for his contributions to the winning of said chalice.
by BleedBlue42 on Jun 26, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I reeeeally like this little kid.
He’s built like a massive tank, can score, wants to be in the NHL, wants to fast track it, is exciting to watch play, and apparently can run over anything in his path. That’s always a nice trait to have. Couple that w/Teej and Backes, as well as a good majority of the team, and we’re a pretty physical, rough and tumble group. If Chicago thinks we played rough last season, well… get a hold of this.
Thrashing the Blues
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Still nervous.
But I don’t doubt his talent at all. If he’s here and NHL-ready in 2 years, that’s an enormous bargain at 16.
by The Goalie Guy on Jun 25, 2010 11:25 PM CDT reply actions
All the Russian worry & "only being 1/2 a tooth away from having a Pronger gap" jokes
aside, I’m not sure I saw a more naturally happy reaction tonight. The guy looked absolutely elated & it would seem that’s good news. Luit representing him couldn’t hurt either, but his current obligation to his dad’s team does seem to worry me a little, just not enough. I love the willingness to take the risks to get the desired ones & their potential to develop. September is too far away!
"Millhouse, push 'em down if he's in yer way! Jimbo, go for the face! LOOK!!! Ralph Wiggum lost his shinguard! HACK THE BONE!!! HACK THE BONE!!!"
-Lisa Simpson, Kwik-E-Mart Gougers Goaltender
Looks like he wears #91 for his KHL team.
I wonder if he’d consider dropping down one number when he comes over here. T-90 would be just too good a nickname (and marketing opportunity) to pass up.
As a Cavalryman (till the day I die, and go to Fiddler's Green)...
…I like it.
A lot.
Ad that’s a pretty good friggin’ piece of firepower the Russians have there. It’s not as good as an M-1, but nothing is.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
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