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Signing Ilya: Why The Blues Should Pay For Kovalchuk

On first consideration, it's a no-brainer: Should the St. Louis Blues try to sign free agent Ilya Kovalchuk?

Of course they should.

Applying non-fantasy hockey considerations to the question, it becomes a much more complex question:

  • How much will it cost and can the franchise afford him?
  • Will he play defense and otherwise fit into the Blues' system?
  • Would he be willing to come to St. Louis, especially if money isn't the truly definitive factor?

The fact of the matter is that St. Louis hasn't been seriously discussed as a destination for the soon-to-be UFA in several months because ownership issues, management's public "stay the course" mantra and the perception that Kovalchuk wouldn't want to be in St. Louis and/or wouldn't fit in with St. Louis' team system.

I, for one, feel that those arguments don't really hold water. In my mind Kovalchuk can be wooed to St. Louis, can be paid by St. Louis and can fit in with the current team and coaching in St. Louis. Consider this not just my own fantasy GM masturbation, consider this a plea. To The Blues' management. To the team. To Kovalchuk himself (you know he googles his own name). This is why Kovalchuk should be pursued seriously by the Blues on July 1. And why Kovalchuk should seriously consider coming to St. Louis.

Star-divide

Before getting to the questions at hand, a brief skim of Kovalchuk's resume seems appropriate.

Ilya Kovalchuk

#17 / Left Wing / New Jersey Devils

6-2

230

Apr 15, 1983

 

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2009 - Ilya Kovalchuk 76 41 44 85 10 53 12 0 4 0 290 14.1

 Beyond this year's excellent totals, Kovalchuk has eight NHL seasons of experience, during which he has scored more than .5 goals per game and over one point per game (338 g, 642 p) in his 621 games played. He averages over three shots per game over his career and his 117 power play goals indicate two positives: first, he excels in the man-advantage situation and two, he does not rely on the power play to score all his goals as 218 five-on-five goals in 621 games (he has three career shorthanded goals) is still a very strong number.

In his last five seasons he has scored 41, 43, 52, 42 and 52 goals.

He is a career minus-75, though 43 of those minuses came in his first two seasons on a dreadful Atlanta team. In fact, Kovalchuk finished plus for the first time this year on the strength of a plus-9 with the strong Devils team.

To paraphrase Ivory Christian in the movie Friday Night Lights, He's big, he's fast, he's nasty and he's fast.

But back to the question at hand. Can he and the Blues make a match?

The first question to be answered when discussing Kovalcuk is the financials. What is it going to take to sign the high-scoring winger and are the Blues in a position to offer him the money. Are they willing to pay out the big offer?

It's well documented that he turned down a long-term $100 million deal to stay in Atlanta. Does that dictate that it's going to take over $100 million to land him? I'd argue that is not the case. Plenty of other players have taken a pass on ridiculous dollars in order to control their own destiny. The latest example is Marian Hossa who skipped out on big money and a long-term contract in Pittsburgh to take less money in Detroit.

The fact of the matter is that every off-season has it's own magic high number for what can be offered in accordance with the CBA. The days are gone when the New York Rangers can wade in and throw the highest amount at a guy and sign him. If your team is willing to go to the highest point, they will match the highest number that any other team can throw at him for the year.

And who is best situated to make that high-ball offer? Your St. Louis Blues, who have over $30 million in cap space this year. Granted, Erik Johnson, David Perron, newly-acquired Jaroslav Halak and Alexander Steen all need to be re-signed to the pro roster and the Blues have no interest in spending up to the $59 million cap, but make no mistake, there is room on the Blues' payroll for a fat check to Kovalchuk.

If re-signing the four players listed costs the Blues around $12-14 million per year, they could offer Kovalchuk a nice cap-friendly long term deal with an annual hit somewhere around the eight to 10 million range and still be $8 to $10 million under the cap.

Consider the argument you make to the ownership group when proposing such an offer to one of the most exciting offensive talents in the league:

  • Last year's team had a cap payroll of $52 million, 26th in the league. Taking today's numbers (above link) and adding both the $12 million that the four RFAs will likely get and the $8-10 million thrown at Kovalchuk and the cap number is around $50-52 million, lower than or equal to last season. 
  • Given the players that have been added and the fact that ticket prices have increased, we must assume that the Blues expect to break even on the season somewhere around the end of the season/start of the post-season. Missing the playoffs last year hurt the franchise and hurt the bottom line. Adding Kovalchuk and Halak increase the odds that the Blues make the postseason and that they play more than two home games, improving profits for the owners.
  • The addition of a marquis player makes the franchise a better investment for prospective new majority owners, a group that SCP is actively trying to woo.
  • The Paul Kariya signing three summers ago caused an immediate increase in season ticket sales and in merchandise sales. Adding a 27-year-old in his prime would likely make the Kariya Bump feel like a pothole in terms of dollars flowing into the doors at 14th & Brett Hull Way.

But could Kovalchuk fit in with the Blues' system?

Ilya Kovalchuk was traded at the deadline last year to the New Jersey Devils. Could there have been a better test of Kovalchuk's ability to adapt to a system than to change from his much-maligned One Way Ilya style in Atlanta to the reknowned devensive system of New Jersey? I have no idea if it was the coaches who got to him or his agent who said, "Play their system now for more dollars later," but he fit in, even earning praise from that team's coach and general manager.

In 27 regular season games Kovalchuk scored 10 goals and 27 points and was plus-9. In the playoffs he managed yet another point(+) per game performance with six points in five games. He was also an even rating despite his team being oustered in just five contests. I'd say that the numbers and the praise from the administration point to the winger's ability to adapt.

But beyond his limited experience in New Jersey, I'd argue that St. Louis can adapt to Kovalchuk as much as the team can ask him to adapt. Coach Davis Payne has already earned a reputation as a man who plays his players in roles where they can succeed with their skill sets. In the words of our GTPD, "He lets the painters paint and the plumbers plumb."

Gone are the days of Andy Murray and his "a checking line and three indistinguishable and interchangeable lines." Payne will design scoring lines built to take advantage of the three skaters' strengths. He will set up the scorers to score and ask the checkers to check. In that system, Kovalchuk will be expected to score. If he needs to be paired up with a defensive-minded winger to cover up on the back end, I'd expect that to happen.

Doug Armstrong is already making an imprint on this team and two of the hallmarks seems to be speed and scoring. If we had to add a third category it might just be Russian. Nikita Nikitin was signed recently and many think he may press for an NHL spot this year. The Blues also drafted Vladimir Tarasenko 16th overall last week, making a trade to acquire him at that spot. He has said himself that he wants to play in the NHL as quickly as possible. Could the Blues be constructing a built-in support system for their new Russian contingent?

The addition of Kovalchuk is an obvious addition to the team scoring, but it also gives an opportunity to the Blues' most recent top scorer, Brad Boyes. If Boyes slides to the second line and faces less tenacious defending, would it help him re-find his scoring touch?

But really, would Kovalchuk come to St. Louis?

No one beyond Kovalchuk and his inner circle know what is really driving his decision on where to sign on July 1, but I'm going to go ahead and take a guess at it.

  1. Dollars, comrade, dollars. Kovalchuk may or may not want to be the highest paid player in the NHL, but it seems obvious he wants to get paid easy retirement dollars and isn't likely to take a ridiculously low number to join a team like Pittsburgh, Detroit or Chicago.
  2. Winning, baby, winning. Kovalchuk is a driven man, otherwise he'd never have made it to the NHL. He is also a person who is accustomed to winning. In the NHL he has been a loser, as Atlanta made the playoffs just once in his first eight seasons and they were swept in that first round. Kovalchuk wants to go to a team on the cusp of being a long-term winner.
  3. Intangibles, man, intangibles. Does Kovalchuk want to be king of a city like hockey heroes in Canada? Or does he want to be basically invisible, like a hockey player in Los Angeles? Or would he be happy in the middle, the big fish in a medium-sized pond, like in St. Louis? Is he looking for a family-friendly town to raise a family, or a party town for a multi-millionaire who wants to find some fun?

The St. Louis pitch to Kovalchuk and his agent is easy on the first two counts. As mentioned, if management can save enough money on the Halak, Johnson, Perron and Steen signings and make a legitimate offer to Kovalchuk they'll be within the realm of the top-dollar offers. By the time Kovalchuk leaves St. Louis he will be an independently weathly man and if he has invested well and/or curbed ridiculous spending he will never have to work again.

In fact, looking at the Kovalchuk cap breakdown done by Jewels From The Crown this week, there are 13 teams that could afford him. Of those 13, count out Atlanta, who have moved on from No. 17.

On the second point, there are few teams left in the 12 who can afford Kovalchuk that fit the "contender" category. Take out the Islanders, Panthers, Stars and Hurricanes as teams that have their playoff run window just beginning to open. Of the teams left, I would say that Phoenix, Colorado, Nashville, Anaheim and St. Louis look like the teams left in the pack that could make a compelling "come join us for years of contending" argument.

When looking at the third component, without knowing the player's desires, Blues ownership needs to make a presentation of the city that shows it off for exactly what it is:

  • St. Louis is a smaller town with all of the amenities of a larger metropolis.
  • St. Louis has a strong pull for athletes and their families as many former athletes and Blues have made St. Louis their after-career homes. It's a great place to raise a family and athletes have a strong support system in the community. Plus, Bobby Plager still lives here and works for the Blues, which should be reason enough.
  • St. Louis loves its sports heroes and still gives them their space. Want to be adored and have your name chanted? Score a big goal. Want to be left alone in the St. Louis Bread Company when you're grabbing breakfast on Sunday? We can do that too.

In summary... (or what I like to call my final Kovalchuk plea)

The Blues have made it abundantly clear since the end of the season that they are not interested in going overboard in free agency or breaking the bank to chase players. They have said that they want to continue to build from within and that they don't want to upset the chemistry of the team they are building.

And yet, ownership wants... needs... to make sure that the team takes a step forward this year. Being on the verge of a playoff run is not good enough any more. One round in the playoffs is not acceptable any more. Signing Jaroslav Halak addressed one major team weakness. Signing Ilya Kovalchuk and the trickle-down theory of offense he creates would address the other chronic weakness of this team.

And yes, ownership does not want to spend up to the salary cap. Not this year, not any year. But they have built a team that can add Halak and Kovalchuk and still be well below the salary cap. Spending money to make money is a concept well-embraced by captains of industry and the addition of the sold-out games and sold-out playoff games would offset the cost of one more big salary for ownership.

And of the team, what of them? Chemistry is the keyword that is always bandied about. Chemistry cannot be predicted with the addition of any free agent or any rookie who makes the team. But the most likely person to add to the team and not upset chemistry is a player who is of a similar age to the core and a player who contributes to winning. Kovalchuk fits both categories. If his position on the team makes for a more seamless transition for newly-drafted first rounder Tarasenko, all the better.

Playing Davis Payne, consider whether this lineup looks like it is cheap enough, effective enough and marketable enough to 1) sell more tickets and 2) entice yet another silent majority partner for the ownership group:

Left wingers: Ilya Kovalchuk, David Perron, Alexander Steen, Vladimir Sobotka.

Centers: Andy McDonald, Patrick Berglund, T.J. Oshie, Jay McClement

Right wingers: David Backes, Brad Boyes, Matt D'Agostini, B.J. Crombeen

(That gives Payne a lot of players to mix and match onto three lines that could be considered scoring lines and one nice checking line)

Defensemen: Erik Johnson, Barrett Jackman, Eric Brewer, Roman Polak, (pick two): Alex Pietrangelo, Tyson Strachan, Mike Weaver, Nikita Nikitin, others.

Goaltending: Jaroslav Halak, Ty Conklin

The Blues have tempered our hopes as fans ever since the end of the last deflating season. In the weeks and months since then, however, they have made bold moves to improve the team and take steps forward in becoming a true Cup-contending team. Signing Kovalchuk could be yet another step in that progression.

I know that president John Davidson has spent the months calming us down and new GM Doug Armstrong hasn't actually said anything to the fans yet as far as his plans for the team. But I keep going back to team owner David Checketts' last words to the fans at the end of the season when he said to expect significant changes this summer. So far, so good. Let's see if they have one last move left in them.

I think they do.

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amen, brother

this is what i’ve been hoping for all offseason. we haven’t had a bona fide goal machine since hull. our PP is notoriously impotent. we have the money, and a 50 goal scorer is what we need to put us over the top.

remember the PP that went 1 for 20-something in vancouver to oust us two years ago? it would be no more. imagine oshie dishing, backes crushing and kovy cleaning everything up. that’s a BRUISING, destructive, goal-scoring line combo.

this CAN happen. it NEEDS to happen.

Paul Kariya's hips don't lie and he's starting to feel it's right.

by NateTheGreat. on Jun 29, 2010 11:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Rec'd like my brain last week...

…trying to crunch cap numbers to see if we could fit him.

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by -DJ- on Jun 29, 2010 11:52 AM CDT reply actions  

At 1st, I really didn't want Kovy...

But Juan, I think you have convinced me. We need this.
I keep checking SLGT and stlouisblues for major announcement.
(and it isn’t even July 1st yet.)….

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by DanGNR on Jun 29, 2010 12:02 PM CDT reply actions  

If I was Ilya Kovalchuk, this would have convinced me...

Well done, boss. Well done, indeed.

Mr. Checketts, Mr. Davidson, Mr. Armstrong… make it so.

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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 29, 2010 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Great post! I can see the line-up now..

Kovalchuk-Oshie-Backes // Two defensive-minded players to back-up and feed Kovalchuk for scoring
Berglund-McDonald-Perron // A Berglund-McDonald playmaking duo that will blow up if Perron breaks out as a scorer
Steen-McClement-Boyes // The smart hockey center, covered in the wings by a cannon and a sniper.
D’Agostini-Sobotka-Crombeen // Physical line? No, kamikaze line. These guys can play tough and score goals.

A line-up like this would fix the goal-scoring problem the team had been plagued with last season, and begin the team’s conversion into a roster that is a bona fide offensive threat— all the while keeping the players that make the Blues the most physical team in the league.

I really hate to say this, and it makes me cringe even thinking about it.. but Kovalchuk, as a physical left-wing all-star goal-scorer, really is the last piece of the puzzle. If Kovalchuk gets on the roster, Halak fulfills his duties as a #1 goaltender, and the blue-line prospects come out of Peoria swinging, I don’t see any reason for the Blues not to go deep in the playoffs, if not contend for the Stanley Cup.

Damn you, Gallagher. Damn you for getting my hopes so high.

by russkidan on Jun 29, 2010 12:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn, Gallagher...

Great write-up. In the midst of the Cardinals season and the World Cup, the Blues have kind of been on my back burner, but Jesus am I excited for this upcoming hockey season. Might have to invest in Center Ice this season.

This post leaves me thinking about a few things. First, how scary would it be to have Kovy and Backes on the same line? Pretty fucking scary, I’d say. Next, I’m not sure where you’re getting this opposing notion that he wouldn’t fit into our system. You do a great job of debunking it, but anyone who says he’s not a good match for the Note can go fuck themselves.

by Busch Ice on Jun 29, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Still don't want him.

That might be because some people consider me a bitter Thrashers fan, but I like to consider it the fact that I’ve had to watch him for eight years and saw him go from a bright spot on a God awful team to a blight on a younger up and coming team.

The reason he fit in so well with New Jersey is because the team adapted and fit to him more than he did so with the team. He was still out there double shifting powerplays. The PP strategy was still “get the puck to Kovalchuk!” just like it was in Atlanta, which of course the opposition shut down in 2.5 nanoseconds because everyone figured it out. Kovy’s never been forced to conform to a system in his career. IF Davis Payne can lay down the law and say “this is how we’re doing it and this is what your role is expected to be on the team,” then sure, Kovy could work. I’d love to see someone of his scoring ability and excitement on the team. We haven’t had that in eons. I just don’t know if I’d want it to be him.

He has the emotional depth of a dishrag in interviews, and there have been very substantial rumblings of an improved Atlanta locker room atmosphere after he left – there was the well documented Ilya Kovalchuk v. Eric Boulton rumble from season before last that apparently Boulton won. He stepped it up after he was named captain, and then this past season just floated about. The closest he came to leadership was when he treated the goalposts like his own personal pinata after his last game as a Thrasher.

Kovy’s a nice guy. He’s an amazing player. I don’t blame him for wanting out of ATL, though I do blame him for not being more forward with the team and leaving at the start of last season when the return would have been unreal. This whole BS of “do I stay? No, I really want to go, but I’ll make it seem like i’ll stay” hurt the team and killed the locker room. All you have to do is look at the team’s record as the year progressed – when the talks were breaking down in December is when the team went on that ten game spiral. Part of that lies on the coaching staff for not being able to coach through a slump (peace out, John Anderson!) but part of that is the distraction of Kovalchuk. It legitimately hurt the team and shot any playoff chances to hell.

Are the Thrashers better off now that he’s gone? Absolutely. It’s a team, not Ilya Kovalchuk and those other guys that no one knows about outside (or inside) of Atlanta. Players like Bryan Little, Zach Bogosian, Evander Kane, and Niclas Bergfors now have a chance to show what they can do. They would have been better off had Kovalchuk left before last season. It really bothered me to watch the team down here spiral down and out of playoff contention because of one player and his agent. It would absolutely kill me to watch the Blues go through the same thing.

I love this team as is – we have an identity. While we need a high scorer/fan draw kind of player, we don’t need him at the expense of the rough and tumble blue collar team that we have put together. I’ll be damned if I’ll watch him fuck over TJ Oshie, David Backes, and David Perron like he did Zach Bogosian and Evander Kane, even if it is indirectly. I was pissed off at that last season. Words cannot describe how I would feel if that EVER happened in St. Louis. I take (and expect) a lot of BS when it comes to the Thrashers. You do not fuck with my Blues.

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by hildymac on Jun 29, 2010 12:48 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Wow...

All great points Hildy… I hope your wrong.. but I fear that the locker room cancer factor was most def. a factor that we may not have considered enough.

PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean?

by DanGNR on Jun 29, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would be interesting to see how Kovalchuk would react to being in the Blues’ system as just a top-line scorer. Would it be an improvement with Kovy if he wasn’t expected to be a team leader but just a goal-scorer?

What we’re looking at with a potential Kovalchuk signing is an improvement over Paul Kariya; a guy who can (or at least should) get points, flow with the team, and deal with not being the centerpiece of the organization. If the Blues can put Kovalchuk into the mold of being the offensive party-starter then I think everything could go well. Then again, that may or may not be what he wants to be on a team, and it really does depend on what Kovy wants. After all, he’s the one deciding which contract he’s going to sign.

Going to be an interesting off-season.

by russkidan on Jun 29, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

That might help.

I know a lot of it was with what role he was in – the other Thrashers considered it “his team,” and I think that really made for a bad situation.

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by hildymac on Jun 29, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Counter point

It seems that a lot of the dissent in ATL was due to him being a great player on a bad team (and not to rag on the Thrashers, cause they’re kinda my 2nd team too, but they were bad. Getting better, but were bad.) He never had played anywhere else and was tired of losing. Now, as an UFA, he can choose where he wants to go. From all the stuff I’ve read on him (granted, I don’t know how much is actually his thoughts, not just people blowing smoke for a story) it seems he isn’t going to just jump at the highest offer, but take time and weigh factors that are important to him. I don’t see anyone being unhappy after signing an $8 mil contract in a city he wants to play in. I know I wouldn’t be.

Also, as russkidan said, I don’t see him as needing to be a team leader. We have Brewer as the C. Tangent Brewer as C defense. Brewer, for all the bad things that have been said about him, I have never heard them come from the team, and especially about his leadership. So we all might think he is terrible, old, fragile, and stupid, but if the team likes him as a leader, which again I have heard nothing against him, he apparently is doing something right. So we have Brewer as C for this year, then I’m hoping it goes to Backes, who to me, seems just as likely to lead by checking his own teammates when they fuck up as talk to them.

Summary: I don’t see him being a team cancer getting that kind of money and playing somewhere he has the choice to go to. And I don’t see him needing to be a team leader, so take that pressure off, and 60 goal seasons, here we come.

Also, I like the idea of taking the pressure off Boyes. Maybe he can learn to shoot the puck at the net instead of the hot chick five rows back. Cause I’m pretty sure no girl is impressed by a puck hitting them in the face. And with Boyes back to 40, thats 100 goals from two guys. Drool…

IT'S A TARP!!!

by bmackattack on Jun 29, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

great stuff, gallagher

One thing:

fantasy GM masturbation

I like to refer to this as rosterbation. Easier to say ;).

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by Chris Burton on Jun 29, 2010 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm sold

He’s young.
You had me at he was born in 1983 and can score.

Is there a better UFA goalscorer this year?

by briandunne on Jun 29, 2010 12:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Rec'd like my ankle after Saturday night

Who knew 9 beers, 3 shots of rum, 4 mouthfulls of rum, a wet and muddy hill, and no clothes make for a bad combo?

What? Oh, Kovie – yeah, sign me up!

I know it's time for hockey because I've started singing "Don't Stop Believing" with the words "...born and raised in FUCK DETRIOT!!!"

by J-Mill on Jun 29, 2010 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

*4 mouthfulls of boxed wine

sorry, I’m not quite 7-shots-of-rum manly.

I know it's time for hockey because I've started singing "Don't Stop Believing" with the words "...born and raised in FUCK DETRIOT!!!"

by J-Mill on Jun 29, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't buy Kovy

I love watching him, I would hate for him to be on my team. He is a damn good sniper, but he was never taught that you need to care about the team. And he’s not good enough to be double shifted all the time. I don’t even think Ovie should be, but I digress.

Kovy has minimal defense. He floats around a lot, waiting for the pass, then pulls off a sick shot. He has a great shot, but all the floating means that he is a net negative player. As a Capitals fan who’s watched the South East division a lot, Kovy would add a lot of excitement but not a lot of wins.

If you want a good sniper, try to get Semin. He is arguably the most skilled forward in the game, plays defense, and PKs. He’s more skilled than Ovechkin, just Ovie is built like a tank so he goes thorough people. Semin only has one more year left on his contract with the Caps, and then maybe not be resigned as he will be a UFA and probably too much money.

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by Bman21212 on Jun 29, 2010 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Dude

You totally forgot to mention Semin’s best attribute – his fighting ability

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by Angst vorm Nichts on Jun 29, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is a world class bongo player. I don’t know how I forgot that.
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by Bman21212 on Jun 29, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Goal Machine?

 41 goals constitutes a goal machine? That would make Brad Boyes (minus last year) a goal machine. Let’s put this in perspective gang. We would be getting a goal scorer equal to what Boyes HAS been, probobly for a great deal more money. I felt we should have chased Marleau myself , he’s closer to producing big numbers for bigger bucks. Ilya would make a fine addition to be sure, but don’t mortgage the franchise to do it.

by Wyoraider on Jun 29, 2010 3:42 PM CDT reply actions  

What could've been ours...

At any rate, the Blues need a top-line LW goal-scorer if they don’t want to take a chance on another scoring drought next season. The market is pretty slim, so it’s down to Kovalchuk.

by russkidan on Jun 29, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

But do they NEED one this year? I would say no. The Blues can scrape by, grow, and wait one more year for some more offensive talent. Even with Kovy, the cup isn’t coming to St Louis next year. Signing Kovy will most likely be high priced and long term. You better really like the contract if you go that route.

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by Bman21212 on Jun 29, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

hopefully honest

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky was in a production of The King and I? Well anyway, before the show, Brasky chloroforms the entire cast, and slowly eats them in front of the audience for two hours. The production got pretty good reviews.

by ilikeboyes on Jun 29, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is why I am not a GM

The idea is intriguing, and exciting, but also very scary. He is young enough to be in his prime, so the Kariya-Esq possibilities are lower. But I still think of Kariya and Mckee when it comes to high priced and touted free agent signings. (not that Mckee was really touted by anyone other than Blues media)

I am going to sit back, bite my nails and wait and see. I am kind of a pussy like that.

by Bleedbluecp2 on Jun 29, 2010 5:18 PM CDT reply actions  

You could have put it any better.....

I still maintain Vladimir Konstantinov got what he deserved...If you can't handle that then kiss my ass......

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by dablues7 on Jun 30, 2010 3:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

whoops...

i mean couldnt have….

sorry….

I still maintain Vladimir Konstantinov got what he deserved...If you can't handle that then kiss my ass......

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by dablues7 on Jun 30, 2010 3:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I suppose I'm on board now

It makes a ton of sense from this viewpoint.

I’ve been very critical of pursuing “Kovalchuk or bust” this offseason, BUT:

1) As long as he doesn’t take priority over re-signing Eeej, Perron, Steen, and now Halak, I’m just fine with it

2) As long as we don’t spend all of the free agency period waiting for him to sign while every other potential free agent scorer flies off the shelf, I’m just fine with it. As for when exactly to draw that line? Hell, I’ve got no idea.

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by Poor College Student on Jun 29, 2010 7:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Take the shot by god

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by spectr17 on Jun 29, 2010 7:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Kovalchuk is NOT the Answer

I grew up in St. Louis, but have lived in Atlanta for the past 10 years. I had season tickets when Kovalchuk was here and I can tell all of my Blues fan brethren that he is not the answer.

He is selfish and not into the team at all. His effort was pitiful at best, and I don’t care that Atlanta wasn’t a great team at the time, he could have inspired by his own commitment to exceed.

I am telling all of you back up there in the Show Me state that he is another Paul Kariya waiting to disappoint.

by Twister Fan on Jun 29, 2010 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Ehhh, why the hell not take a flier on Kovalchuk?

I look at it from afar and think it’s just an enormous risk to sign a guy who plays practically no defense and is Russian to sign with a team that seems to have a blueline-first attitude and has no Russians.

Take another look and . . . holy shit, he knows how to score goals. Because we really have a bunch of THOSE guys on our team.

Still, if we were to sign him, it would be nice if he decided to forecheck every once in a while. I mean, shit, that’s a LOT of money going to someone with a reputation for being a one-sided die as far as hockey skill is concerned. Might as well get some use out of it.

I will neither be upset nor joyous if we give Kovalchuk an offer he can’t refuse. But it could be worse, I’m sure.

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by Donut King on Jun 30, 2010 12:24 AM CDT reply actions  

The Numbers

FORWARDS

  • Ilya Kovalchuk ($7.000m) / Andy McDonald ($4.700m) / David Backes ($2.500m)
  • David Perron ($3.000m) / Patrik Berglund ($1.247m) / Brad Boyes ($4.000m)
  • Alexander Steen ($3.000m) / Jay McClement ($1.450m) / T.J. Oshie ($1.275m)
    Matt D’Agostini ($0.550m) / * Vladimir Sobotka ($0.750m) / B.J. Crombeen ($0.873m)
  • Cam Janssen ($0.650m)
    DEFENSEMEN
    Roman Polak ($1.100m) / * Erik Johnson ($5.000m)
    Barrett Jackman ($3.625m) / * Carlo Colaiacovo ($3.000m)
    Alex Pietrangelo ($3.167m) / Eric Brewer ($4.250m)
  • Tyson Strachan ($0.650m)
    GOALTENDERS
  • Jaroslav Halak ($4.000m) / Ty Conklin ($1.300m)

Our actual payroll would be about 56mil. We would have to drop either Brewer or Boyes to return to what I assume is our actual cap of about 50mil. We have 7 skill forwards+steen/silent however you want to classify them. So the lines are slightly wonky.

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by Icion on Jun 30, 2010 12:25 AM CDT reply actions  

or not sign Colaiacovo at $3 mil.

I liked what he did here, but I’d rather have Kovalchuk than Carlo if that makes the difference. Buying out Brewer only reduces the payroll by a couple million because a percentage of the buyout counts against the cap and losing both Colaiacovo and Brewer might be too much of a hit to the veteran aspect of the blueline.

By the way, I like most of your numbers you’ve assigned to the restricted guys. I hope they can get some of them for slightly less, but you’re probably pretty close to the cap hit numbers on them.

by gallagher on Jun 30, 2010 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate to be Buzz Killington.....

But there’s no effing way this happens. It would throw too much of a wrench into the developing through youth thing we’ve got going. Not only do we have to think about the players we’re paying this year, but the players who we’ll need to pay in the years coming up. I just don’t see management wanting to jump into a huge multi-year deal with a guy after all the vets that have signed for big $ and shat the bed for us over the past couple years. That Kariya signing was brutal.

by hisTALLness on Jun 30, 2010 1:55 AM CDT reply actions  

hes 28 years old.. how is that ruining the development process?

I agree the Kariya signing was a bit brutal, but this guy isn’t Paulie, this guy is primed and ready to put up 50+ goals.

I hate to be that guy but, Prospects are just prospects, if they haven’t done anything in the NHL, then I would rather put my faith and my teams cash into a guy who continually is one of the top 3 best scoring wingers in the league. I dont see how signing him can do anything but help this team.

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by MSUBluenoter on Jun 30, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think all the Blues’ recent actions (the trade for Halak, the draft day maneuverings, dealing from a position of strength to pick up Tarasenko) indicate they’re starting to change gears here. They were building the talent pool, and now they’re going to start transitioning to “win now” mode. That doesn’t mean they’re going to let the youth movement stagnate, but it does mean that they’ll be willing to trade young talent for guys who can contribute now (Halak) and it might also mean that they’re willing to add a premier goal scorer in his prime in Kovy… I sure hope it means that, anyway.

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by Smoke on the Water on Jun 30, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see that.

The Blues have definitely been trading from an area of strength to shore up areas of weakness, but I don’t think they’re going to slip back into the insanity that defined two decades of wheel-spinning futility before the Checketts Era.

I don’t think the Blues’ window of Cup contention has opened yet. The key is not just having a lot of young players, but having them mature and peak at the same time. Goal appears to be set for now, and the forwards might be on the verge; but the real key for this team is to get its young defensemen playing solid NHL hockey.

If Halak can maintain his recent standard of wizardry, and Pietrangelo develops like a fourth-overall pick, the Cup window could start to open as quickly as next year. “Win now” in 2010-11 is a short-sighted move. No moves should be made with that thought in mind. Get the young blueliners developing now, and look to the ’12 or ’13 playoffs to start serious Cup contention..

by BleedBlue42 on Jul 1, 2010 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kovalchukis a no go

According to Armstrong on an interview at the blues site he was was asked about Kovy and he said he thinks it’d be a bad choice to go for, and he wants to build within. Looks like the only way Kovy’s comin here is if he seeks us out.

by Nayt Hogan on Jul 1, 2010 4:48 PM CDT reply actions  

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