Puck Daddy on Kovy's situation
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I know management says they don’t have the dollars to chase this guy and I know all about the arguments about his all-offense playing style not fitting in, but I have to admit that I’d love to see this guy wearing No. 17 and a Bluenote.
Add this guy and a starting goalie and the Blues go from slowly building to playoff-ready.
And they instantly sell a shitload of season tickets, guaranteed.
I’m not sold on this idea.
At least not until we re-sign Perron, EJ and Steen.
No beer and no TV make Homer...something something.
by Poor College Student on Jun 5, 2010 3:25 PM CDT reply actions
I would MOSTLY agree
Ink Perron and EJ first. I would agree with that much, but Steen over Kovalchuk? If we took the 6M from Kariya’s contract then take the say, 2M from Steens contract and got us Kovy? I’d much rather take that. We lose Kariya, Steen, and Tkachuk, we gain Eller (taking over for Steen), Kovy (taking over for Kariya), and a FA taking over for Big Walt.
That’d be a pretty good turn out from the off season.
by Randall Ritchey on Jun 5, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad to see you here, RR...
Looking forward to hearing your views expressed in this somewhat more, ahem, “free-form” environment, as opposed to “Hockey’s Future.”
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://futurenotes.blogspot.com
by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 5, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Some freedom
Having the freedom to actually voice my opinion and not have to worry about getting an “infraction” will be very nice!
Whats your opinion on this one TB? PB? I don’t what to call you anymore!
by Randall Ritchey on Jun 5, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
See below, good sir...
…and just plain “B” is cool with me.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://futurenotes.blogspot.com
by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 5, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt it...
but I suspect he will be right at home here.
PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean?
He's just what the doctor ordered for the Blues
A left-winger veteran guaranteed goal-scorer who can add skills to a team that can play a physical game around him. I was reading the article earlier and one of the things it mentioned he wanted was a good city, seeing how he has three kids, and quite frankly: has there ever been a hockey player who didn’t like St. Louis? Scott Mellanby kept his family here, Tkachuk wants to stay here too.. and we’re a franchise filled with young kids looking for someone to guide them to victory. As Gallagher and many others have pointed out, he’d probably cause a lot of hair-pulling if he gives up on the backcheck like he did in Atlanta, but the Blues right now kind of make up for his recklessness with solid defense. He’d be perfect for a team that was plagued by being too good at defense and not getting goals when they needed to.
I wish the Blues could lower his asking price to something manageable in exchange for being the big scoring cannon on a defense-minded team, but we’ll just have to see how it goes. I’m liking that we’re mentioned as a potential franchise for him, though — even if MGMT is balking at the idea.
But chea, PCS is right — take care of what we have at home before going to town on this one.
He’d be perfect for a team that was plagued by being too good at defense and not getting goals when they needed to.
Nice point.
Kovy and a more solid #1 goalie get my vote. Has a lot more upside than the Kariya Experiment (TM)
Let's go Blues!!!
He'd HAVE to be on a team that's too good at defense.
Especially since he’s not too good at it himself.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
I really need to stop reading these Kovy articles…
They all mention the Blues, and then I get all excited, because having him here would be awesome.
But it’s just not going to happen. We have important players to sign who I certainly don’t want to see go, and I don’t think canceling Prospect Camp gives the club enough money to throw at Kovalchuk to make him bite, so… yeah.
Thanks for getting my hopes up… again…
Please, Please, Please, Please, Please, Please, Please
Let Ilya choose the Blues.
The RFA’s will take care of themselves. EJ can’t even sign an offer sheet. Steen’ll stay if he’s smart.
Here's an idea
St. Louis Game Time should make Kovalchuk a pamphlet on why he should sign here, detailing the history of the Blues, the small-town-feel of vibrant St. Louis, and the need for a player like him in our franchise.
Then we will use it to gather our tears when he signs with LA.
Or a top 11 list (which will turn those tears from sadness to joy):
1. A great team dentist.
2. A chance to try a full range of hairstyles, from Frosted Tips to Angry Lesbian.
3. Meet and greets with other player’s wives.
4. A chance to fuck over the Devils in favor of the Blues (for once).
5. Directions to anywhere will include the statement, “then you take the Ilya Kovalchuk Highway to …”.
6. Guaranteed interview with Angelllllllllllllllllllllllllllla each season after retirement.
7. Hot babysitters.
8. Your number 17 donning the backs of Blues fans for 40 years after your last game.
9. Marrying Ram’s cheerleaders.
10. Color analyst position after retirement (for at least a few seasons).
11. Bronzed likeness next to that other Blues hockey great: Kung Fu Bunny.
Let's go Blues!!!
by Milo. on Jun 5, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
brilliant
although no. 4 scares me. if he does sign with stl, i have a feeling a few draft picks would go to NJ in return just out of habit.
9.
nice Kimble reference. as a fellow resident of the City of Granite City I say, rec’d like the future of our new movie theatre.
Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky was in a production of The King and I? Well anyway, before the show, Brasky chloroforms the entire cast, and slowly eats them in front of the audience for two hours. The production got pretty good reviews.
Drove past the house the other day. I think it’s up for sale.
/WTF happened to the movie theater?
Let's go Blues!!!
Wait... Granite's getting something with more than 2 screens?
Shit, I haven’t been home for a while. Exciting stuff going on, apparently.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
if you call a theater in west G "exciting" that is
down at the end of niedringhaus by 7/11. great placement.
/sarcasm
Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky was in a production of The King and I? Well anyway, before the show, Brasky chloroforms the entire cast, and slowly eats them in front of the audience for two hours. The production got pretty good reviews.
Um... they put it in there?
Wow, yeah, real central location. I guess they’re REALLY trying to get downtown going again. It would have been better if they could have done a whole “Historic Granite City” thing, kept the Woolworth’s and the old theater, and found some way to renovate some things. They renovated the old movie theater here in the Marietta Square, and it’s gorgeous – hosts musicals and film festivals all the time. It’s a shame that couldn’t happen at home.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
i think
its a matter of finding investors.. someone tried to open an internet cafe down there, but it only lasted a few months.
Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky was in a production of The King and I? Well anyway, before the show, Brasky chloroforms the entire cast, and slowly eats them in front of the audience for two hours. The production got pretty good reviews.
Hm.
There’s got to be some sort of investor somewhere – people hit up one of the big car dealerships around here in better times, and it did a world of good. I bet when the economy rebounds someone’ll step up. I hope.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
I'm ambivalent about Kovalchuk.
I’d like to see his goal-scoring on the Blues’ left wing.
I don’t think the Blues have the financial wherewithal at this time to pay his asking price, nor do I think that St. Louis is a “sexy” enough city for one of the game’s biggest stars.
I’ll give Kovalchuk the benefit of the doubt, and take him at his word when he says that he wants a “good” city for his family… and the point was made, and hereby seconded, that there has yet to be a player to my knowledge that has played here for any length of time and didn’t fall in love with St. Louis.
And there is the notion that Kovalchuk’s presence here would force the league and the networks to pay attention to St. Louis, wether they want to or not… and I like the idea of St. Louis and the Blues being the underdog, the Little Engine That Could, the anti-hero.
What better way to give a Gateway Arch-sized “eff you and horse’s ass you rode in on” to Bettman, ESPN, Versus, and the whole East Coast-Detroit-LA powers-that-be establishment, than to sign Kovalchuk, acquire a real starting goaltender, and — God willing and the creek don’t rise — win that big silver thing that two teams I really dislike are currently playing for…
So in the end, I don’t know. If Kovalchuk can be broiught here without losing the solid young players that this franchise is clearly building around, then do it. If it’s a choice between signing Kovalchuk, and retaining Perron and Steen, for example, then that’s a tougher call to make.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://futurenotes.blogspot.com
dude
I don’t think the Blues have the financial wherewithal at this time to pay his asking price, nor do I think that St. Louis is a "sexy" enough city for one of the game’s biggest stars.
he played in atlanta. being in a city that has a hockey-first arena is plenty sexy.
I think St Louis has pull with players.
For one, it’s known as an up and coming team built for a long run, not a one year run.
For two, players all talk about how great it is to play here. Just enough attention to be a popular guy in town, just small enough that it isn’t like the hell of playing in Montreal or Toronto where they overanalyze your every move.
I think if the Blues made a play for him he’d definitely listen. Now they just have to have the cash to throw at him in one of those long-term, cap friendly deals.
I can only hope you're right, Boss...
…as I would enjoy seeing Kovalchuk playing alongside, say, Eller and Oshie.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://futurenotes.blogspot.com
by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 5, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
My dream offseason involves Kovalchuk donning the Blue note
My perfect offseason:
Blues trade for Boston’s No. 2 pick and get either Taylor or Tyler. No team in the league could match our offer. Something along the lines of the 2010 first, Rundblad and one of our second-tier forwards (like Sonne or something). The Blues lack a young superstar, and either one of these two seems to fit the bill.
Blues sign Kovie. He would cost about the amount of Walt + Kariya, but the ticket sales would spike and I think the Blues could make the playoffs with him.
Imagine these lines: Kovie/Happy Meal/Backes
Perron/Tyler Seguin/Oshie
Steen/Berglund/Boyes
Random winger/Silent Jay/ BJ
You can’t tell me that’s not an upgrade.
Hell, the Blues could even resign Mason and hope to win more 4-3 games. And the best prospects would be intact (Petro, Eller, Allen).
Two moves could change the direction of the franchise for the better.
That's all good, except...
…I don’t think the 14th overall pick, last year’s 17th overall pick, and Brett Sonne gets the #2 overall pick from Boston.
Love the idea, but I think the Blues’ offer would have to be a lot sweeter than that for Boston to bite.
Would you take that if you were running the Bruins? Honestly?
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://futurenotes.blogspot.com
by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 5, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
i think the bruins
want future pieces. they dealt kessel for cap reasons so they’re looking for young guys who can help in 2 to 3 years.
hell up the offer — the blues have tons of prospects (especially on d) that arent going to get a shot in the future. throw in cole, warfosky, mcrae (I know hes a forward) and make it happen. the blues need a young star.
Throw in?
Cole, Warsofsky, McRae along with Rundblad, Sonne and our 14th?
I REALLY hope that is sarcasm. That isn’t worth Seguin or Hall.
I agree with chasing Kovy. I really do. But if you were making a package for the 2nd overall pick, I’d look at something like Cole, Sonne, Hjalmarsson, and our 1st. But even that might be overpayment.
Trading up for the 2nd is just going to cost way to damn much.
by Randall Ritchey on Jun 5, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t think we have Hjalmarsson’’s rights anymore, as we failed to sign him before June 1st. make fun of me relentlessly if i’m wrong for being a smarty-pants.
Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky was in a production of The King and I? Well anyway, before the show, Brasky chloroforms the entire cast, and slowly eats them in front of the audience for two hours. The production got pretty good reviews.
You might be right.....
But he’s still on our prospect group over on HF and though he is not on our prospect list on the Blues website, they still have Charles frigging Linglet on their page even though he’s been gone for over a year and even played five games with Edmonton this past year.
Hey B, you have any info on this?
by Randall Ritchey on Jun 5, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't think Swedes have/had to be signed before June 1...
…but not sure.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://futurenotes.blogspot.com
by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 5, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
the blues have too many prospects
and not enough rosters spots. its a numbers game. guys like cole are honestly never going to get a chance here. let’s deal. you gotta give to get and, from what ive heard, tyler seguin is pretty solid.
guys like cole are honestly never going to get a chance here.
I might agree bwith the notion of having more prospects than available roster spots, but I can’t see Cole in particular being the odd man out at any point. As long as he’s healthy, he’s at the very least a second-pairing and second PK unit defenseman with this team within a year.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://futurenotes.blogspot.com
by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 6, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
If you’re willing to take Tim Thomas and all those pizza boxes in his room, Boston might want to talk
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 6, 2010 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I just... I just can't get behind it.
It would be exciting, yes. It’d be awesome to see the Blues land the biggest player they’ve gotten since Gretzky, and I want the team to get all the publicity in the world – heck, maybe if we got Kovy we’d actually have the REAL team in an ad for NHL Ice Time.
And then there’s the reality of having Ilya Kovalchuk on your team. I’m not going to lie, he’s really fucking exciting to watch. He gets the puck and the whole arena scoots to the edge of their seats. He has his moments of leadership, like when he beat the hell out of Brian McCabe when he wouldn’t stop pestering the Thrashers’ players. And God, he can score. But there’s a flip side. He has no idea how to play defense – don’t let this past season’s numbers fool you. He was playing in front of a much improved Thrasher defense and then an excellent Devils one. And yet he still managed to be barely over even. He scores 40 goals a season, and is like a career -81. He floats around the defensive zone, waiting for someone to feed him the puck so he can zip up the middle, but he never attempts to get the puck himself. He’s watched people run our rookies (most notably, Tobias Enstrom when a Hab tried to break his neck into the boards) every single year, and never does anything about it.
The only time he fights, the only time he gets frustrated, is when he’s upset with his play. Then he takes the whole team on his shoulders and tries to do everything himself, which leads to turnovers and stupid play. He then breaks his stick over the goal and refuses to say anything to the media afterward. He got booed off of the ice his last game here.
He’s fun, but he is NOT a franchise cornerstone. He’s a pleasant accessory that needs to be properly utilized. I don’t want to see him get priority over our young guys who need to develop correctly. I’d place a real goaltender waaaay higher on the importance list over Kovalchuk.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
He needs to be on a team
Where his job is to just score goals. Backes and crew can handle the leadership, Jay and Oshie and our top-pick d-men can play defense. The Blues need goals, he can score goals. I think he’d thrive here.
He can, but...
I just really hope that the rest of the team can be solid enough behind him to bail his ass out when he makes a doofus play. The reason people didn’t say much in NJ (or at least why it took them so long to notice things) is because the Devils are an excellent team for the most part – they just (like us) needed a guy to score. Maybe I just notice Kovalchuk’s flaws more because I had to watch him play on a pretty sucktastic Thrashers team. I’m sure the flaws were more emphasized than need be because the rest of the team was like watching at train wreck in slow motion.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
actually, it’s because Rolston and Langenbrunner constantly draw our ire (well, some people don’t mind Langs, but he’s a complete diva over getting rested for a damn game)
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 6, 2010 7:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Diva?
You’re being very polite with that.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
I am. I’ll rag on him when he Leaves as a UFA and gets a $5 mil/year contract with an NTC from a team desperate for someone like him
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 6, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you talking about Kovy
or Brett Hull?
He floats around the defensive zone, waiting for someone to feed him the puck so he can zip up the middle, but he never attempts to get the puck himself. He’s watched people run our rookies … every single year, and never does anything about it.
/OK, maybe Hull was better than this at the defensive aspects of his game.
Let's go Blues!!!
Good point...
… but like you said, Hull was at least mildly slightly better, and he was better at the intangibles, like speaking to media (even though he could come across like an ass), having people like him in the locker room, and actually playing on a team.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
I remember the first few games he played as a Devil. Any time he was in the defensive zone, he’d just float around near the blueline and it would basically be a 5v4 unless Elias steals the puck and does something crafty (which doesn’t happen nearly as much). No matter where Kovalchuk played, he had a defensively responsible forward with him. He normally plays with Elias, who’s underrated on the defensive end. He’s also had Zajac center him, who’s excellent defensively and should’ve been a selke candidate (fuck Datsyuk).
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 6, 2010 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions
So Kovy had a defensive Accountibilabuddy?
Shit, we should have tried that in Atlanta.
Reporter: There`s a "stamp out the Beatles movement" underway in Detroit. What are you going to do about it?
Paul McCartney: We`re going to start a campaign to stamp out Detroit.
by hildymac on Jun 6, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The question is . . . will he ever try to play defense?
Or is he going to depend on his lesser-paid linemates to handle that for him?
Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see this happen. But he’s got to be able to play some D, and there’s not a good track record of Kovy actually laying that bit down.
By the way, count me on board with Joe’s idea. People named Tyler are awesome.
St. Louis Game Time . . . I need another beer.
The linked article makes a point of talking about his defensive play.
Twice they mention that he played New Jersey’s system well. Call me crazzy, but I think these all-offense tags can be a bit overblown. Hull adjusted his style in Dallas to win a Cup. Kovalchuk isn’t a 20 year old gas burner any more.
If I had to guess, I’d say that he has not lost a lot of games in his hockey career… until he got to Atlanta. I bet that motivates the guy to want to play for a team than can compete and will be willing to be coached if it helps to be successful.
If we sign Kovy for 7.5m

We are overloaded on the left wing this way. The cap is gonna go up to roughly 58 so we will have about 2 mil in room but I think we trade Boyes to save money and let Brewer walk next year.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
BAH that shit came out blurry
The resolution is fine everywhere untill I post it here then it blurs out.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
the blues could cut cola
and save some coin. also matt d’ago could be gone and cam doesnt have to re-signed. besides, i dont think EJ gets that much with no outside source to offer him any coin. i think more along the lines of 3 for EJ.
Nah
I definitely see us locking EJ up to a 6 year deal for 4.5-5mil. Something was wonky with the Dagger trade, theres no way we just let him walk at this point. Not resigning cola is an option but unless we bring up more rookies there aren’t too many offensive D-Men on the market this year.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
Kovalchuk is great
And I’d be happy to have him here, but there’s no way we win a cup with Mason and Conklin tending the twine.
No beer and no TV make Homer...something something.
by Poor College Student on Jun 6, 2010 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions
We could give Conklin a shot as starter and pick up another backup. We don’t need to throw big money at one because we got Allen coming in a year or 2.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
True, but...
I’d take Mason/Conklin over Leighton/Boucher.
I’d still like to see Harding in the Note, but who knows how plausible that is.
Since when is Lars Eller a RW?
He plays LW when he plays wing at all, and is far more effective as a center.
Boyes is a RW.
If you adjust the lines as follows:
Kovalchuk – McDonald – Backes
Oshie – Berglund – Boyes
Perron – Eller – Steen
Janssen-McClement – Crombeen
That might work.
Personally, I’d send D’Agostini down to Peoria unless he’s on a one-way contract; no way will I pay him $1MM to play down there. If he’s on a one-way deal, trade him. For a fifth-round pick, if that’s all you can get.
Defense and ’tending looks OK, but would still like to have a Harding in the mix.
If Bishop, Allen and Fallon are all sent to Peoria, thing are gonna get might crowded down there. Can’t see any of those guys being willing to take an assignment to Alaska, so maybe there’s a minor deal coming with Fallon and D’Agostini for a pick and a prospect or something?
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://futurenotes.blogspot.com
by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 6, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
“thingS are gonna get mightY crowded…”
Damn typos…
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
http://futurenotes.blogspot.com
by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 6, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
The lineup next year depends on if Iceburg and boyes turn it around. Boyes shooting % was way way off so obviously hes gonna trend back up, we will see how far back up he goes though. Berglund needs to prove he can be the center he has the potential to be.
First line is pretty easy to predict in Kovy – Mac – Backes. The second line is the hard question. I start with the center and our options at this point are Jay and Berglund, we can plug other people but that isn’t their natural position or say Eller but he might not make the team out of camp and hes not gonna be our second liner straight away so for arguement sake lets go Jay and Berglund. If Berglund can start it off right and really pick his play up hes the obvious choice, he ended the year on the up swing but overall he played pretty soft. Jay was a great third line shutdown guy but I think he has the potential to be a scorer if we use him more offensively and give him the correct linemates and really im looking at Jay as more of the Silent line instead of just him alone. Steen is the obvious partner for scoring(crombeen for defense) and Perron did really well on that line. They put up points exploiting the oppositions obvious top line defensive liabilities. If we let them go a bit more instead of just matching up as a defensive line I think they can produce good numbers. I would consider Oshie here instead of Perron to add a bit of grit that the line loses without Crombeen but mister yoshi is a bit more versatile and they should be fine as is. Anyway thats my reasoning for bumping the Silent line up to second. We have too many skill players left, Oshie/Eller/Boyes/Berglund. We could just show Boyes has it turned around for a dozen games then trade him and roll Eller-Berg-Oshie as a third line which would be just spiffy. The only problem I really have with your lineup is Jay deserves better than to be rolled onto the fourth line.
If we don’t get Ilya, everything is super simple and we just do the standard lineup of.
T.J. Oshie / Andy McDonald / David Backes
Lars Eller / Patrik Berglund / Brad Boyes
- David Perron / Jay McClement / Alexander Steen
B.J. Crombeen / * Matt D’Agostini / * Cam Janssen
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
and i should preview before I post
dot thing messing up my formatting.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
Sorry B
But if you’re willing to play Janssen consistently on the fourth line but want D’Ags outta here so quickly? We have a problem.
We made that trade for a reason. Everyone talks like D’Ags sucks, which he doesn’t. He’s just not used right. He’s super fast and has a very deceptive shot, but after he took a head shot from Andrew Ladd, he became hesitant on the ice.
If we DO trade him, it’s not going to be for a fifth. It’ll be in a packaged deal. But I honestly just don’t see it happening. At all. You can likely expect to see him in St. Louis.
by Randall Ritchey on Jun 6, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, I'm not especially anxious to see D'Agostini moved out...
…and would be glad to see him play instead of Janssen, although I like Janssen and what he brings to a game. He’s always there to answer the bell, no matter how big the opponent may be, and I respect that.
If D’Agostini can contribute, that’s great. I’m just saying that if there ends up being no room for him at the inn and he gets sent to P-Town with a one-way contract, that’s not a wise use of salary resources, and the Blues would be better off trading him as opposed to doing that.
If he’s still on a two-way contract, all bets are off trade-wise… and if there’s no room for him on the NHL roster, I think he could help Peoria next year quite a bit. I just don’t think he’d be a million bucks worth of help to them, that’s all.
I’m confident that the Blues have a plan of some kind.
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 6, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
LINE GUESSSING
My favorite off-season game. Assuming that we get neither Kovalchuk nor Marleau, and we keep Eller and the prospects in the Oven, I’m shooting for this line-up:
Perron/Oshie/Backes
Berglund/McD/Boyes
Steen/McC/D’Agostini
?/Been/Janssen
? – B, as for the 4th line LW, what’re the odds that Draz can break into the NHL? I’ve always liked the guy, but will he be able to make the grade?
They have to re-sign him first...
His ELC is up.
If the y do re-sign him – which I expect they will – then I would think he’ll have as good a shot as anyone else to win that spot.
B.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 6, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
























