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Tuesdays With Hildy: What is it with the bandwagon train?

I'm not writing this about one fanbase in particular and bandwagon fans (though I would like to take the moment to laugh at Detroit because they count Kid Rock as one), but just bandwagoners in general.  Every fanbase in every sport can fall victim to them.  They're like the great plague of sports, at least to the die hards in a market.  To the owners of sports teams, they're perfectly a-ok, because they present a new business opportunity.  New butts in seats.  Winning new fans is the goal for much of today's sports teams, because money is what makes a market viable.  No one wants to see 3000 people in the stands and more empty seats than foam fingers.  More people = more word of mouth = more publicity = more people = more money.  Money is good for the franchise, so why do the fans who've followed a team through good and bad times resent the newbies?

Is it the stupid questions asked during a game?  Is it the fact that they're oblivious to any aspect of the history of the franchise before the date that the team became successful?  Or, is it the same deal that used to tick you off in school?  You know the drill - you work your butt off on a project for two months straight and do a great job.  You think you're going to get an A, the highest grade in the class... and then along comes someone whose parents bought them the goods for the project and did it all for them the night before.  And they get the A+.  Just grinds your gears, doesn't it? 

Apply that to the bandwagon fan - you've suffered through low years of a franchise, through no attendance, through the doldrums.  You know that sports are go in cycles, and as soon as this one is over your team'll be back to being great again.  And then boom - you're right!  The team's great again!  And then all of a sudden people who didn't give a flying flip 2 years prior care about the team and consider themselves super awesome fans, riding the coattails of success.  And, of course, invariably giving your team a bad name, because they tend to be obnoxious and make more noise than the people who have been going to games for 40 years or so.

So, which is it?  Necessary evil to get the franchise some money, which gets them new players, which might make them be a bigger contender?  Or, do bandwagoners irritate you so much that you would prefer they go the way of Towel Boy's towels (and dignity) - over the railing?

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Do bandwagoners need to be around, regardless of how obnoxious some are, for the good of the recovering team?
Yeah, I'll suck it up and deal with it if it brings in the dough.
21 votes
Ugh, no. If I have to deal with one more person asking me what the numbers on the rafters are, and what icing is, I'm going to poke myself in the eye.
26 votes
I have selective hearing - some of them irritate me, and sometimes it's just nice for hockey to get new fans.
91 votes

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They are not "fans"

They are not “Hawks fans”, just like they won’t be “Blues fans”. They are not “fans”. Its human nature to want to follow the winner; hell I did it myself when the Rams were good from 1999 til 2001. I followed the team, knew players names and positions, etc. But it didn’t make me a fan, just a bandwagon jumper. Now I couldn’t tell you 3 players on the Rams team.

And that’s what ticks me off about the bandwagoners calling themselves “fans”. You aren’t, you just love a winner. Hell who doesn’t, there’s nothing special about that. “Fans” are with the team through thick and thin, love wins, hate losing but will tolerate a loss if the team gave their all. They know about the game, know key players for rival teams, know why we chant “We Want Tacos” when the Blues have 4 goals, etc.

Some bandwagoners will become true fans, and we should and will welcome them. They fall in love with the game and the team just like we did, so we will tolerate their dumb questions, their cheering at inappropriate moments, their yelling “shoot” whenever the guy on the point gets the puck. For the others, the ones who will jump off the bandwagon after the next 3 game losing streak, we will ‘accidentally’ spill a little beer on as we make our way to our seats at the start of a period.

The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong. But that's the way to bet. - Damon Runyon

by baroose on Jun 8, 2010 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Looks like I'm in the overwhelming majority.

On the one hand, it bothers me to see all the johnny- and julie-come-latelies showing up with turtlenecks underneath their tucked-in jerseys. But those bungnuggets have a lot more disposable income than I do, and I’m glad that they’re throwing it into my team’s bank account. I’ll tolerate them while they’re spending money, for the greater good of team success.

Yes, even the ones who can only get off their cell phones long enough to ask what country PJ Oshie is from, or why David Pairun doesn’t get more ice time.

by BleedBlue42 on Jun 8, 2010 3:42 PM CDT reply actions  

it is this simple

without the possiblity of bangwagoners why would any team spend money getting better?

A strong anvil fears no hammer

by Childhood Trauma on Jun 8, 2010 6:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Bandwagon fans:

summed up, no arena would sellout without them. I do resent the fact that i was there with 8,000 fans in the dreaded ‘05 season, but on the other hand I think that they some of them my be the die hards of tomorrow. I wasn’t always a Blues fan, but one day I turned on the TV and saw them playing Toronto in a particularly chippy game, and I was hooked. No one in my family or (tiny) circle of friends were watching hockey of any kind at the time. I was like 15 or 16 and shortly after I started watching, the bastards cut a whole season in half. It is a good thing I was hooked early.

When I finally saved up some money and went to a live Blues game it was the inaugural season of the Kiel Center. I have never been to the checkerdome, the old barn or “the arena”. Does that make me less of a fan? Or just a poor bastard with terrible timing?

When bandwagoners ask stupid questions I answer them. I tell them stories of the past games I went to. I talk about the players and plays that I have seen over the years. I try to share with them some of my passion for the game. I hope that it is contagious. I hope that when they leave the bandwagon, they become true fans. I sometimes even let them look through my copy of GameTime. If that don’t make a fan out of you, you may be a lost cause.

by Bleedbluecp2 on Jun 8, 2010 7:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Where would we be without the fresh meat?

Last game at Romano’s dude in a Chicago jersey gets told I’m a Blues fan by his Chicago buddy. At first intermission he sidles up next to me and mentions having been to the old barn in STL and cheering for the Blackhawks.

Me: Really? We probably tossed beer on your goofy azz.

Him: But i was just a kid

Me: Like I said, we probably tossed beer on your azz.

He scooted back down the table just shaking his head. A real Chicago fan would have replied they tossed beer on us in Chicago also. Forking Norman New Guys.

The highlight was the closed hand on the puck penalty last game. Dayum near had to diagram that one out for the cherries to grasp that call.

“But why was it a penalty again?” [facepalm]

Just a chew toy for the hockey gods

by spectr17 on Jun 8, 2010 7:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I had to go with Option 3.

Hey, there were bandwagon fans of the Blues last year. There were bandwagon fans of the Blues 20 years ago. They’re always going to be around. You just gotta deal with ’em accordingly.

St. Louis Game Time . . . I need another beer.
And I can also write things in 140 characters or fewer.

by Donut King on Jun 8, 2010 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

They may be a bandwagon fan now, but with patience, they may become a lifelong fan. I didn’t follow hockey from way back when. My dad is Guatemalan and tried to get me into futbol. I hated it (tho yes, I’ll be cheering on the USA). It wasn’t till a number of years back that I went to my first hockey game and was probably one of those asking stupid questions. Hell, I’m quite likely still asking stupid questions. But hockey was thrilling that I wanted to learn more.

So whose to say some of those annoying bandwagon fans won’t turn out to be the most passionate sports fans ever. We all have to learn somehow and some of us don’t have the benefit of getting it from birth. :)

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"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
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by Angy on Jun 8, 2010 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

We’re all new fans at some point. There was a time when it was my first Sharks game and I sat there asking all kinds of questions. (well, not true. I waited a few games in and then tried to ask about the points I was sure on but Mina was distracted by a boy and wouldn’t answer me) What separates new fans from just the bandwagon class is that we want to learn more about the game/sport. We’re not just there because it’s the cool team in town right now. And we’re not just going to go away at the end of the season.

What annoys me most are the people who buy tickets to playoff games with no knowledge of the sport what so ever. This goes for all major sporting events.

It’s a helluva a first game to attend, but you may want to try a reg season game first, before coming to a playoff game and asking why everyone seems to be paying attention to the “Jim Thornbon” guy.

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by CTGray on Jun 8, 2010 9:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Me, I’m probably what people would consider a perpetual bandwagon fan. Years will go by between being able to see games live. The only times I’ve seen the Blues play without the benefit of television have been at United Center where one of my old employers had a skybox. Whether it’s distance, money or simply being in the middle of some other activity and remembering “Oh, right! Blues game! Crap, I’m doing this other thing here instead and can’t leave” there has always been something in my way of watching the games.

Now that I’ve been able to get re-established financially in terms of not having car or student loans I have more disposable income and more time in the winter to enjoy the games. Every year I have to re-read the rosters just to remember who’s who.

I can say with authority, though, that I did question why the Blues ever thought that adding Wayne Gretzky to their lineup was going to get them closer to the Stanley Cup. Adding him, though, did at least re-invigorate my interest in watching the games to see if he’d last in a Blues jersey for long.

by Paperwork Ninja on Jun 9, 2010 9:00 AM CDT reply actions  

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