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Thursday Links: Viva Conroy! Edition

The only hockey news that's remotely linkable involves two ex-Blues, hence the omission of the Blues News category.

NHL News:

  • Is there anyone here who didn't love Conroy when he was wearing the note? The former Flames cap'n has signed a one year deal with Calgary.
  • Pronger's early season status is up in the air because of his knee. Maybe if he was able to play in the Finals on 2 knees at 100%....nah, no use playing the "what if" game. Now I made myself sad.

Other Stuff:

Video:

Even if it didn't happen in St. Louis, this is one of my favorite Craig Conroy moments. Keep an eye for a great moment in Blues history along the "bottom line" nearish the 15 second mark.

Now I'm pining for the days of the "Two Scotts and a Conny" line. I'll tell ya, sometimes the links just make me plain nostalgic.

Since I'm leaving you with a whopping 5 links, let's generate some discussion:

Who's your favorite "under the radar" wearer of the Bluenote (from any time period)?

In no certain terms, I'm talking about a bottom 6 forward, a last pairing D-man, or a backup goalie. Interpret it however you like, but digging up some of the lesser known or less appreciated Blues should be fun at an establishment such as this.

As for me, it's Tom Tilley, for no other reason than he slapped me "five" like he meant it coming out of the tunnel at the old barn.

I was four or five and mom had tickets from a season ticket friend who couldn't use them. Apparently, said STH called their usher friend and told them to wave me over as the Blues took the ice after intermission to stand next to the tunnel. Of course, when the man told me to stick my hand out I was dumbfounded when I found myself making contact with the gloves of Hull, Cujo, and others. However, when Tilley bumped my hand, I noticed he was actually looking me in the eye and muttering "Let's get 'em, dude!" as he went back out there. Damned if I knew whether or not he was talking to me or a teammate, but that Poor Grade School Student was one happy camper for the rest of the night. And for anyone who cares, we tied Toronto 5-5 that night.

That's it for me. Tell us about your favorite former "underdog" Blues in the comments.

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Oh golly there are so many, but here's 4

Pierre Plante – enigmatic scorer, wore #16, my favorite player growing up

Rick Meagher – the definitive grinder

Alexander Khavanov – the fans gave him hell constantly, but any mortal defenseman was going to look inadequate playing on a team with MacInnis and Pronger. I liked the dude.

Petr Cajanek – so maybe I’ve got a thing for enigmatic “scorers”. He could show flashes of real talent, but never seemed to be able to put it all together

The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong. But that's the way to bet. - Damon Runyon

by baroose on Aug 12, 2010 7:08 AM CDT reply actions  

The only..

redeeming factor with Have-not, was his 1st NHL goal celebration.

Although, he did have “some” offensive ability, just not much defensive ability.

PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean?

by DanGNR on Aug 12, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I knew I'd draw some fire for that

they asked for favorite “underdog” players. I liked him. Nobody else did. QED

Guys I was happy to see leave the Blues:

1. Mike Keenan
2. Mike Keenan
3. Mike Keenan
4. Roman Turek

The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong. But that's the way to bet. - Damon Runyon

by baroose on Aug 12, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually knew a few big Khavanov fans

His offense was appreciated. His defense sometimes, too. Problem was consistency, or a wandering mind.

I was fascinated that a late-20s Russian physicist could just up and come over to start playing NHL hockey out of nowhere. And I couldn’t fault him if he occasionally got caught thinking about string theory while a forward was bearing down on him.

Lighthouse Hockey: More defensemen than we know how to spell.

by Dominik on Aug 12, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't really have a reason for it . . .

but I always took to the liking of Phillipe Bozon. Probably because he was always the best player on Team France in the Olympics and other world hockey tournaments, no matter how young or old he was, yet in the NHL, he was always a candidate either for the 4th line or the press box. And unlike most French-types, Bozon never seemed to wave a white flag.

St. Louis Game Time . . . I need another beer.
And I can also write things in 140 characters or fewer.

by Donut King on Aug 12, 2010 7:13 AM CDT reply actions  

I liked Bozon.

The very first Blues game I went to was the Blackhawks/Blues game in which Bozon scored a penalty shot against Eddie the Eagle. The Belfour chants were beautiful that night.

by haveblue on Aug 12, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mine?

While I’ve got to give props to Paul Cavallini, the Blues player who literally gave the finger to Chicago, I’ll have to go with backup goalie Rick Heinz instead. Everyone in my school thought he was related to me because our last names are so similar. Maybe I should have tried to get free tickets out of that…

by Paperwork Ninja on Aug 12, 2010 8:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Darren Turcotte

Reasons:
-Was wicked fast on NHL 96 or 97 or whatever year that was.
-Had a sweet mullet
-I felt really bad for him when Chopper almost chopped off his bare hand on the bench with his stick.

Other under the radar guys I liked for various reasons:
Dave Lowry, Scott Pellerin, Bryce Salvador, Jamie McClennan, Rick Zombo

by forgetyerskatesdream on Aug 12, 2010 8:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh good call on Lowry

Always liked him too

The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong. But that's the way to bet. - Damon Runyon

by baroose on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course Conroy

The guy gets so excited about anything hockey and he is the only name I have on the back of any of my Blues jerseys. And he barely gets paid anything comparitively to those who have been in the game as long as him (and have been captains). My others would be Harry York (also excited even when he made a good pass), Meagher was my first favorite player as a very young kid, and my random “can’t figure out why I liked him but did” Adam Creighton. I would also be interested in a top 5 Blues players you were glad to see go. I think that would be more difficult.

by Whatablue on Aug 12, 2010 9:03 AM CDT reply actions  

There's so many...

Bill Guerin
I know he’s not a 3rd or 4th line player, but I really enjoyed the time he wore the Note. I was a fan of his when he was in Dallas, and when we signed him, my head almost exploded. Perron reminds me of him a bit.


Jamal Mayers

Not only did I like him, but due to my screen names I used (and still do use) online, a lot of people who knew me somewhat thought I was him, simply because I was black, loved the Blues, and had the number 21 in my name. But on the real, he was a legit player and didn’t hesitate to do whatever it the team needed from him.

by stbluesboy21 on Aug 12, 2010 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Definitely Conroy

Hands down has to be Conroy. I remember watching a game years ago where the Blues were down by 4 goals and the team looked completely defeated, yet Turbo was still out there giving it 110%. After that I was hooked. Went to the Bluenote Authentic Store later that week and spent my first ever paycheck on an auto’d Conroy game stick that’s still hanging up in my old room at my folks house. Definitely a sad day when he got traded at the zero hour of the deadline for Stillman.

by cozmcphish on Aug 12, 2010 10:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Mike Danton

Though he’s not really even on the radar anymore.

To the moron that said Khavanov, that guy was TERRIBLE. He looked like a bobble head figure skater out there AND threw that terrible puck towards the bench that broke Pronger’s wrist.

by mikefuckingdantonthatswhy on Aug 12, 2010 10:50 AM CDT reply actions  

I think he’s still in jail if I’m not mistaken, he did have some potential though.

by stbluesboy21 on Aug 12, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Danton is not in jail anymore. He is playing for a college team somewhere. That is not a joke.

by NaJaKwa on Aug 12, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't believe..

No one has said
Courtnall….
#14
I, unfortunately was in attendance at his last NHL game. Concussions are a bitch.
What a thorn in the other teams sides…

PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean?

by DanGNR on Aug 12, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Courtnall was not "unsung" or "under the radar"

He was a huge part of the mid to late 90’s Blues and a fan fav, so I didn’t even consider him.

by forgetyerskatesdream on Aug 12, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm showing..

my Blues age I guess, I didn’t start watching/caring about the Blues until LATE 90’s. 1998 was my 1st Blues game.
So didn’t realize he was such a huge part. He was fighting the concussions after I got there I guess…

PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean?

by DanGNR on Aug 12, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

April 27, 1998.

Playoffs, first round, in LA for Game 3. Blues up 2-0 in the series, but down 3-0 in the game. Blues need a spark. This happens.

Courts gets 2 minutes for charging, but a Laperriere boarding call cancels it out. O’Donnell gets a fighting major and a game misconduct for jumping on Courts from behind and beating the crap out of his helmet. As a result, the Blues get a full 5-minute major of power-play time, and it’s a clinic. Rheaume, Hull, Turgeon, and Yake all pot PPGs, MacInnis and Pronger get 3 assists apiece, and the Blues win the game 4-3. They finish off the sweep two nights later.

I watched that game in my Springfield apartment with three friends. One was a hardcore Blues fan before that game; the other two were converted by the final horn.

Loved the Courts.

by BleedBlue42 on Aug 12, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Luv me some Courts

He reminded me of Glenn Anderson from the Oilers for his goalie crashing, just not as fast. You’d see Courts get the puck and you could draw a straight line right to the goalie where he was going with it. BONZAI!!!!

Finely tuned shit disturber. One of them guys that just got under the other team’s skin.

Just a chew toy for the hockey gods

by spectr17 on Aug 12, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

craig johnson

mofo could flat out FLY around the ice

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky was in a production of The King and I? Well anyway, before the show, Brasky chloroforms the entire cast, and slowly eats them in front of the audience for two hours. The production got pretty good reviews.

by ilikeboyes on Aug 12, 2010 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Rick Zombo

Just the name alone was awesome I thought

Baltimore Blast - 6-time MISL/NISL Champions
Let's go Blues!

by UIWWildthing on Aug 12, 2010 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

he once drew me a caricature.. talented that Zombo fella

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky was in a production of The King and I? Well anyway, before the show, Brasky chloroforms the entire cast, and slowly eats them in front of the audience for two hours. The production got pretty good reviews.

by ilikeboyes on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I've got a few

Herbie Raglan
Tony Hrkac
The Cavalini Brothers

by MMouse on Aug 12, 2010 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

weren't the Cavalline brothers

Flying?

Just a chew toy for the hockey gods

by spectr17 on Aug 12, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ian Laperriere

Hands down for me. I was 10 years old when I started watching the note, and always liked this guy for his hustle. He had skills and also threw his weight around. It says that he is 6’1" but I don’t believe it. Reminds me of a lesser-skilled Oshie.

Maybe you wouldn’t consider him ‘under-the-radar’, but I rarely hear others’ talk about him.

Its weird... half the year my blood is red... but then the other half... it's blue... hm...

by PeacockJac on Aug 12, 2010 3:36 PM CDT reply actions  

two for the list

Kevin Miller and Lappy. The only names other than CuJo that I’ve had on the back of a Blues’ jersey.

St. Louis Game Time Fact: Morning links are part of a well-balanced meal.

SBNSTL Writing about the Blues in more than one line is tough.

by averagejoe on Aug 12, 2010 3:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Gordon Kannegiesser

just so you know that awesome name

Just a chew toy for the hockey gods

by spectr17 on Aug 12, 2010 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice

#17, wasn’t he? (Not that I ever saw him myself, but my dad made me memorize the uni # of every player in Blues history or else I didn’t get dinner.)

Lighthouse Hockey: More defensemen than we know how to spell.

by Dominik on Aug 12, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I take it you didn't have to run around in the shower to get wet then

since you knew Gordan’s number and ate well.

I was looking at Gordon’s career and forgot he came back to the Blues several years later after his first stint.

Kannegiesser? That German or Dutch or what? Where’s are resident herm TB to enlighten us with some Deutsche?

Just a chew toy for the hockey gods

by spectr17 on Aug 13, 2010 3:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now I feel like I don’t deserve dinner, because I don’t remember it if he had a second number. (Of course the index cards were made by my dad, so maybe I can blame him.)

I think “kanne” is literally “can” — as in able — in German, but I’ve no idea what that combines with giesser to mean. Maybe it’s one of the others, but a name like that deserves to be Deutsche just on principle.

Lighthouse Hockey: More defensemen than we know how to spell.

by Dominik on Aug 13, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rick Meagher

Good checking center, classy, took over as captain after the Bern fetched us Oates, not a bad Bellman, Brockland and Bommarito GMC pitchman neither. Real shame about the knee injury.

Lighthouse Hockey: More defensemen than we know how to spell.

by Dominik on Aug 12, 2010 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

A few come to mind

Forward: Bob Bassen. I know he’s not necessarily ‘under the radar’ since he was a huge fan fave, but I love the way he played the game. From what I hear, he’s a good dude, too.

Defenseman: Murray Baron. He was a stud on the blue line. He and Zombo comprised one of my favorite defensive pairings of the 90’s.

Goalie: Pat Jablonski. I remember following him in Peoria as a kid, thinking he was gonna be a stud when he got to the Blues. But then CuJo came along… Apparently Jabber has himself a stalker out there somewhere.

www.stlouisgametime.com

by Angst vorm Nichts on Aug 12, 2010 5:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Whenever I hear Pat Jablonski I think Darryl May. I know Jabber had more of a career, but it always felt like that was the role he inherited.

Lighthouse Hockey: More defensemen than we know how to spell.

by Dominik on Aug 13, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I always liked Ryan Johnson a lot....

and I always appreciated the effort of Curtis Sanford when he was here. I was really upset when both of those guys left. And they both have spent time in Vancouver which is my most hated team. Jamal Mayers is another one. I’ve met Reed Low, super nice guy, so he’s another one. And currently, Jay McClement is one of my favorite players.

by nintendofan24 on Aug 12, 2010 6:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I've got to go with

Rick Meagher
Dave Lowry
Bobby Bassen
Cliff Ronning
Craig Conroy
Jamal Mayers
Tyson Nash
Harold Snepsts
Esa Tikkanen
Ron Wilson

Bryce Salvador (who I name first son after)

I get a lot because I’m old.

Hockey players wear numbers because you can't always identify the body with dental records.

It is the sweet, simple things of life which are the real ones after all. Laura Ingalls Wilder

by luvhockey on Aug 12, 2010 7:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Being a late 80's on guy...

I have quite a few. I always liked Phillipe Bozon (as was mentioned above) because I got to interview him along with the French Club in Middle School – yeah, I was a big dork, get over it, I have.

I also always loved the Bassen, R. Sutter, R. Sutter, R. Wilson lines in the early 90’s. Obviously, all 4 were never on a line. Also, half the time only 2 of the 4 were on a line because they were on the PK…but those four worked their tails off and I loved every minute of it.

by stlfan on Aug 12, 2010 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

How about Boguniecki? He was one of my favorites right after the strike. Conroy is as solid a pick for this question as anyone. What a solid two way forward.

by NaJaKwa on Aug 12, 2010 10:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Boguniecki

is another awesome name that just rolls off the tongue. We need an all time Blues team with awesome names.

Just a chew toy for the hockey gods

by spectr17 on Aug 12, 2010 11:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Or make is 4 syllable last names only

So far we got :

Boguniecki
Kannegiesser
?

Just a chew toy for the hockey gods

by spectr17 on Aug 13, 2010 3:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Half qualifiers

Frank St. Marseille. (I hear “Frank-Sain-Mar-say” in one nice groove.)
Maybe doesn’t count because of the nickname, but “Classy Ralph Klassen” was fun to hear, too.

Then…Gino Cavallini? Jean-Guy Talbot?

For whatever random reason, when I try to remember Dan Kelly’s voice this is the sound-memory that is most vivid to me: “He shoots-he scores! … Pas-LAW-ski!”

Lighthouse Hockey: More defensemen than we know how to spell.

by Dominik on Aug 13, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

What about Dallas Drake?

 im surprised i havent seen him mentioned yet
blocked shots, hit, fought, was a captain, was tough, and just played hard

Hail to the Blues

by medel19 on Aug 13, 2010 12:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Murray Baron

You see a Murray Baron jersey in the crowd 10 times a year, that’s me. Love that man.

by duncan dip on Aug 13, 2010 12:26 PM CDT reply actions  

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