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Tuesdays With Hildy: The 2011 All-Star Game - Does It Prove Fan Voting Is Useless?

The starters for the 2011 All-Star Game have been released, and wow, what variety there is. Only two cities, Chicago and Pittsburgh, can claim players so far. Does this strike anyone else as lopsided and fairly dumb? Pittsburgh is having a solid season so far, tied for second in the NHL with 53 points with Philadelphia and Detroit. Chicago is currently in 9th place in the Western Conference, stuck in a slump and still reeling from losing a quarter of their team (whether they admit it or not).

Sidney Crosby, Evgeny Malkin, Jonathan Toews, Kris Letang, Duncan Keith, and Marc-Andre Fleury are the starters for this year's ASG.Yep, three centers are starting. While I'm not saying these guys are bad player, because they're not, do they all deserve to start this year's All-Star Game?

Sidney Crosby does for sure. He's blowing everyone out of the water with 65 points so far (32 goals and 33 assists). Jonathan Toews isn't having the season that Crosby is - there are twelve centers separating Crosby's 65 points from Toews' 35. Malkin sits at 33 points and 19th overall in scoring. For centers. For everyone, Toews ranks 25th and Malkin is 35th.

Kris Letang's having a solid year defensively, not only having 33 points so far on the season, but also rating an outstanding +20. Keith is a -7 (677th in the league) and has just three goals and 21 assists. Marc-Andre Fleury? Yeah, he has the fifth best GAA in the league (2.31), but he has the 12th best save percentage with a .918..

Are there better choices for the starters? Absolutely - Tim Thomas, Dustin Byfuglien, Steven Stamkos, the creepy Sedin twins, Martin St. Louis, Jonathan Quick, Nicklas Lidstrom, Tobias Enstrom... cripes, half of the ballot was a better choice than Keith. So, why'd these guys get picked? Whiny analysis after the jump.

Star-divide

People are homers. Look at the Montreal ASG. Even after the vote-bots were figured out, forward Alexei Kovalev, defensemen Andrei Markov and Mike Komisarek, and goaltender Carey Price were all voted in as starters. Big name markets have the voting power to get their guys in the game, and there aren't many bigger than Chicago and Pittsburgh. All these people vote en masse, and here you have a lopsided line-up that isn't made of the best in the league, and isn't even made necessarily of the best of the teams that the starters play for. Does Tampa Bay have a huge voting base? No. Other people know of Stamkos and think he's worthy of starting - I voted for the guy - but do as many people realize how great he is versus the number of people who know who Toews is in the Chicago metro area? No. You don't have a representation of who is best in the league; you have a popularity contest that negates the point of having an all-star game to begin with.

Maybe once the captains pick the teams THE NIGHT BEFORE THE GAME (which is something else that bothers me, but whatever), things'll go from being a bunch of BFFs together to guys who can play the sport and win a game. Then again, the other guys to choose from also come from the ballot, so who knows. How does all of this get accomplished? Saith the NHL:

These six players will be joined in Raleigh by 36 additional All-Stars, who will be unveiled on Tuesday, Jan. 11.  Also that day, 12 NHL Rookies will be selected to participate with the NHL All-Stars in the Honda NHL SuperSkills® on Sat., Jan. 29 at the RBC Center.  Rookies will be selected from the pool of players in the League who qualify as Rookies, and who are eligible to win the Calder Trophy.

Once the selection of the 42 All-Star players is complete, the players themselves will decide which two All-Stars will become team captains as well as four alternate captains, two for each team.  Approximately two weeks from today, the captains will be revealed, at which time team names will be designated as the last name of each respective captain.

Oooh, Team Sidney! Team Alex! It's like Twilight up in here. My question for the debate this week's becoming less "should fans vote for the starters?" and more "Should we even bother with this overcomplicated BS?" Answer either in the comments - debate away!

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So we really got hosed.

Petro isn’t eligible to play in the rookie game either? This is dumb…

Barret Jackman is my hero.

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by BluesTiger on Jan 4, 2011 3:26 PM CST reply actions  

Seconded.

Move for unanimous consent.

by BleedBlue42 on Jan 5, 2011 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I won’t watch if Ovechkin is captain. His leadership “skills” are a joke.

by hartigan on Jan 4, 2011 3:43 PM CST reply actions  

All-Star Games are as worthless as tits on a boar hog...

It’s nothing but an ego stroke; the game itself is meaningless, except in MLB where it decides which side gets home field advantage in the World Series.

If All-Star Games were eliminbated entirely, from every pro sport, it wouldn’t bother me one little bit. I’d rather watch the 12th round of an NHL Entry Draft on a continuous Groundhog Day loop than five minutes of the posturing and “hey look at me” play in an All-Star Game.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

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by Tomorrows Blues on Jan 4, 2011 3:47 PM CST reply actions  

I’d rather watch the NHL awards than the All-Star game. And those are awful.

I would miss the Home Run Derby, but that’s it.

by hartigan on Jan 4, 2011 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Fuck the All Star Game

I’d rather the NHL pour their fuckin ASG money into promoting the World Juniors in the US.

by Bruce Fuckin Boudreau on Jan 4, 2011 8:46 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd like Team USA vs. the friggin' Canucks the other day...

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

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by Tomorrows Blues on Jan 4, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I voted on the NHL.com sidebar

that asks what you like the most about the allstar game.
Myself and billions of others voted that the super skills is what has the most interest…

fuck the game. and fuck detroit, and fuck shitcago.
Oh wait… I see that detroit has no players listed. fuck em anyway.

PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean?

by DanGNR on Jan 4, 2011 3:56 PM CST reply actions  

Rangers fans tried to vote Sean Avery in. Imagine if he actually got voted in…

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 4, 2011 8:38 PM CST reply actions  

The NHL would just "fix" the vote

like they did during the “Vote for Rory” campaign.

by Bruce Fuckin Boudreau on Jan 4, 2011 8:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Is there a special category for ''Asshat?''

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851

http://futurenotes.blogspot.com

by Tomorrows Blues on Jan 4, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Apparently, though I didn’t see any votes for Carcillo, Ott or Neil.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 4, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh ye gods...

An All-Star Game and Skills Competition consisting of nothing but goons and enforcers. It’d be like some kind of Remedial Hockey League game or something.

by Paperwork Ninja on Jan 5, 2011 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

THAT I would watch.

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by hildymac on Jan 5, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

You wouldn't even need to throw a puck out there.

Replace the nets with a stack of stretchers, and make the center faceoff circle off-limits to anyone except goalies.

by BleedBlue42 on Jan 5, 2011 8:14 PM CST up reply actions  

There really isn't any rocket science involved here

Fans vote either for players from their home teams, players they like or players they’ve at least heard of. I’d bet less than five per cent of fans sit there and compare statistics and performances to vote for the players they actually feel are most deserving of All-Star berths.
But, on the other hand, the All-Star games in all major sports – except maybe baseball – are just glorified exhibition games where the only objective is not to get hurt.
I think maybe you just shouldn’t take it so seriously.

by Southfield_2001 on Jan 4, 2011 9:41 PM CST reply actions  

Jeez...

You know it’s a fix if the NHL’s second most visible player isn’t listed. Ovie may be a cherry-picking, egotistical, smug SOB, but he is the “other” hockey player most people can name. He puts up big numbers. How can he not be voted in? (Whether or not he deserves it on merit is not the question here, really. Every “Fan-voted” all-star game is going to have its share of “popularity” players voted, but with only six positions, this is a joke.

No, I didn’t vote for Halak or Oshie, either. Tim Thomas must be on drugs, he’s playing out of everybody’s mind. Osh is a solid player, the kind of player who is instrumental to Stanley Cup winning teams, but… he’s not an All-Star… yet.

sigh Bettman doesn’t get it. Never has. Never will.

by The Goalie Guy on Jan 4, 2011 9:42 PM CST reply actions  

That photo of Tim Thomas is awesome.

“I am stopping this puck… WITH MIND BULLETS! That’s telekinesis, Tuuka!”

by Paperwork Ninja on Jan 4, 2011 10:31 PM CST reply actions  

Meh. All-Star Game.

Wait, they still HAVE one?

St. Louis Game Time . . . I need another beer.
And I can also write things in 140 characters or fewer.

by Donut King on Jan 4, 2011 11:02 PM CST reply actions  

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