Oshie's Return Won't Guarantee Playoff Spot
T.J. Oshie is returning. All hail the mayor!
Let just about every fan of the Blues, I found the footage of Oshie skating and the news that he's traveling with the team to be great news. Oshie is a dynamic, exciting player when healthy. His return means less ice time for guys like Chris Porter and Cam Janssen.
When Oshie does return, and it's looking like it's going to happen sooner rather than later, he will immediately make the Blues a better team. He is, however, not the savior.
Right now, the Blues are mired in the bottom half of the Western Conference playoff picture. The fourth to 12th spots in the West are separated by just five points. Five freaking points. The Blues are right in the thick of things with 46 points, good for seventh overall.
When Andy McDonald went down in the Oilers' game and basically putting an entire line on IR, the common thought was that if the Blues can stay in the playoff race through the injures, it will be smooth sailing when everyone gets back.
David Perron and McDonald are both still in the land of the concussed. Unlike other teams, looking at you Pittsburgh, the Blues are playing it safe with concussions. Therefore, Oshie and his ankle—which sources say was broken "pretty fucking bad"—is the first of the forwards to return.
The pressure is going to be on Oshie, and his ankle, to lift the Blues up and seal the playoff spot. If only it were that easy.
Teej was having a nice year before he got hurt, but some fans act like he was lighting the world on fire. Sure, 10 points in 13 games is rock solid. That's a 60-point season for young Osh, which would have been a career high. However, he had just one goal in his ten points.
Oshie, of course, does much more than score. He's a great two-way player, a future Selke winner, an a ball of energy who fires up the home crowd more than any other Blue, including No. 55, Cam Janssen.
If the Blues fail to make the playoffs, it will be because of a lack of offense. Jaroslav Halak is rock-solid in net and when the top-6 d-men are healthy, the Blues are one of the best defensive teams in hockey. What the Blues need is goals.
Getting Oshie back won't change that. In his career, Oshie has 33 goals in 146 games. Having him back helps, but again, he won't be the savior.
My point, and yes I have one, is that the Blues players have done their part thus far. They have stayed in the playoff hunt. Now, it's time for the front office to make a move. Address the goal scoring woes. Don't give us fans the same old line that getting Oshie back is like making a trade. It's not. Again, Osh will help, but unless his new ankle has turned him into Sidney Crosby, he's not going to prove the necessary offense needed to make a run at the playoffs.
Back when I had more free time and was writing at SBNSTL, I wrote that the Blues shouldn't make a panic move with all the injuries. I still agree with that. Don't get fleeced with a move, but if this team is serious about making the playoffs, something has to be done. How much longer can the Blues expect to rely on Brad Winchester and Eric Brewer getting goals?
As the season moves along, more and more teams are falling out of the race. Calgary, Ottawa and Toronto (Oh, Canada indeed) are all pretty bad this year. You can't tell me that after sucking since the lockout, the Blues don't have some redundant pieces around? I'm not talking about Jake Allen/Ben Bishop, but there's gotta be some kids in juniors or Peoria that won't help the Blues, but could help another team.
If the Blues want to make the playoffs, and judging by the season-ticket promo they do, it's time to add a little juice to the lineup. The team has made it this far with Chris Porter and Adam Cracknell.
Oshie's return should be the catalyst to make a move, not the only move the Blues make.
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There are some really great points in this article. I will say this, I’d take where we are right now in a heartbeat over the last few seasons. Streaky as this team is right now, they are a fun bunch to watch. I love watching the Peoria youth come up and show their stuff. They’ve kept us in the hunt, and that says great things about our future.
Don't worry fellas...
The Blues are in the playoffs. Not only that, they’ll get past the first round too.
How do I know? My gut told me.
Haters gonna hate!
Go Royals, Chiefs and Blues!
Points % we are in the playoffs today.
Once we get Oshie back it will be huge and we will make the playoffs. If we are able to get Mcdonald and Perron back we can make a deep run in the playoffs. As for making a trade, for what we have and what we need a trade just probably won’t happen. Our best trade pieces that we would consider trading are Allen and Bishop, but look what Montreal got for Halak, a proven NHL goalie, so we wouldn’t get anything for them yet. Tarasenko and Schwartz are not getting traded. Cole and Nikitin will replace Brewer and Jackman, so they aren’t going to be traded. Junland probably has no trade value and we sure as hell won’t trade McRae. All that said, do not expect an impact forward coming to the Blues and we aren’t going to trade for any 3rd liners either. The only realistic trade is Boyes for another struggling scorer with a similar contract, where both teams hope a change of scenery works, but he is playing better so I bet we keep him.
dont forget
We have plenty of depth in prospects in the AHL and do not forget…we have draft choices. A 1st round to 3rd round pick and a prospect goes a long way in the NHL. for the right person coming from a team rebuilding we could get a goal scorer think Jersey, Ottawa or Toronto..Certainly not a Crosby type, but a good solid goal scorer able to give us 15+ goals down the stretch and another 2-4 per playoff round and thats all we need with the roster we currently have. The Blues will not make it past the 1st round with the current line up. That is assuming all are healthy at playoff time.If we have to rely on talent from the Riverman than look forward to another mid level 1st round pick.
Depth of prospects?
Like who? The best possible player type that we could probably get is another Dagostini. Someone who can get 15 goals down the stretch, do you realize that would be a pace of 30+ goals for a season, we are not going to get that.
i like the Boyes for Bozak idea.. of course then i'd have to auction off my username over at PPP.
i like what we have. i like where we’re sitting. and i LOVE that we’ve made it this far with as many injuries as we’ve dealt with. i fully realize that this team has scoring issues, and on paper we probably aren’t the top pick to win the cup this year, but SHIT, pleeeease do not start making trades that we’re gonna regret. fight this season out, shuffle a couple forwards, hope for the best with our IR guys, and make a splash this offseason. i realize we want to contend for a cup every year, but everyone’s gotta realize there’s still a missing piece, and the best bet is to acquire that in june/july.
"... That bothered me, I'm telling you, that bothered me because 22 years of being around here with the jersey and stuff, stick up for yourself ... stick up for the jersey and think about the rest of the guys that did." - Chaser
Sources say his ankle was broke "pretty fucking bad"
We have sources? Well, not sober sources.
www.stlouisgametime.com
you may not have sources, but i do.
allegedly.
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SBNSTL Writing about the Blues in more than one line is tough.
Just say the word and I will sick the community on youz guyz for knowing what you know and won't tell me what you know
You know?
www.stlouisgametime.com
I have no idea what you're talking about.
St. Louis Game Time Fact: Morning links are part of a well-balanced meal.
SBNSTL Writing about the Blues in more than one line is tough.
free agency
The problem with free agency is the ownership group. As is tradition it seems in Saint Louis we have ownership issues and that is waht keeps the Blues from going after top tier talent in free agency.
Sure ya don't, Joe. Sure ya don't.
St. Louis Game Time . . . I need another beer.
And I can also write things in 140 characters or fewer.
I concur.
I think that getting Oshie back is more of a motivation boost than necessarily a goal scoring boost – but if he can get more goals scored in the way of assists, more power to him.
The issue is fixing the goal scoring without getting rid of actual active roster players who contribute. Unless the Devils or Isles keep selling, I’m not 110% sure who we’d get someone from. Getting Teej back isn’t like making a trade, but if someone could please inform Brad Boyes how to score outside of a shootout, that could be.
Thrashing the Blues
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How is getting Oshie back not like making a trade?
Once Oshie comes back and possibly goes on the line with Steen and Berglund and if they can produce consistently and if Sobotka-Backes-Dagostini line continue to produce, add that with contributions from Silent J and Boyes, our offense won’t be so terrible. Once we can get back Mcdonald or Perron we could potentially have 3 lines that can produce again.
Let me rephrase.
It’s an increase in production, but it’s not like getting back a goal scorer like we really really need.
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But,
with assists comes goals. And the bonus with Oshie is he helps the defensive side as well. I would expect a slight increase in goals for per game and a slight decrease in goals against. I see this as enough to make a significant difference in the outcomes in our games and the results.
Again,
everyone was all over me when I said they gave Backes too much money. (Backes has produced since so I have no problem with it no) Everyone said Backes does so much more than score. Well the same goes for Oshie. Perron is the goal scorer that we need, but Oshie helps in every aspect.
When Oshie got hurt
The Blues weren’t lighting the league on fire with offense. They won with defense.
Oshie has one more goal than Chris Porter, the guy he’s likely replacing. When Osh gets back, the Blues aren’t just going to start piling on goals. Who is he going to assist?
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SBNSTL Writing about the Blues in more than one line is tough.
I never said we would be piling on goals.
I said we would be slightly better in all categories, which will make for signifcantly better results, wins.
One more thing, don’t ever compare Oshie and Porter again, I don’t care if you don’t think Oshie coming back will help us that much, but if you honestly think that Oshie is going to be to the offense what Porter is to it, then you obviously know nothing about hockey.
I think your missing the main problem here
The Blues have the parts to make a trade, they just don’t have any real options on who to trade for. You list the Flames, Leafs, and Sens as options, (or was it Edmonton? Can’t look since I’m texting this response), but who among those teams is actually an option that could help us, and not eat into the cap we need to pay our core? Nobody on Calgary works, Bozak isn’t much of an upgrade from Toronto, Edmonton will only deal you overpaid messes. Their is a reason these teams are bad; they overpaid mid level talent, that aren’t great trading options. If there is a good trade option out there, the Blues will try to find it, but there isn’t anyone clamoring for us to rape them like the Steen and Carlo deal.
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by Novacain on Jan 9, 2011 10:41 AM CST via mobile reply actions
not the best player the right player.
Arnott may be available from the devils. In responce to the pay..there are guys that may be overpriced, but can be had for 3rd to 5th round draft picks who will be RFA’s on July 1st. the Blues could resign them at that time for a more reasonable deal or let them go and look into free agensy (see my above reply on that) this summer. All while getting help for a deeper playoff push and keeping the option of siging our core talent at seasons end, but i thought our main concern was Backes…who we already signed)
While thats a fair point...
… But this is the West, can we even assume we are going to make the playoffs to begin with? And is making that move and giving up a piece of our future, because someone like Arnott will still probably take someone like McRae, even for just a rental.
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by Novacain on Jan 9, 2011 3:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
My post early season
And to think so many hated on me for this. Now people are begging for a trade. After this post below was posted I herd all about how the Blues were solid and we needed no help on offence…man I hope some of the douchebags re-read this post and see how dilusional they were.
http://www.stlouisgametime.com/2010/11/6/1797596/should-the-blues-wait-for-the-trade-deadline
You made that post when we were healthy.
If we were still healthy we would be fine. And I do not even want to touch that Vanek contract, but who would you want to trade? Remember this isn’t NHL 11, we can’t trade our 2014 1st round pick and our 2013 3rd round pick for Iginla.

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