Slow start kills the Blues; fall to Dallas 3-2
Jaroslav Halak was not good enough at the start of the game and allowed two goals on shots that could (should?) have been stopped. The skaters looked just like they did in the first game of the season: a little too scrambly and trying too hard to finesse pretty passes to one another when another option was open. A lot of shots, yes, but a lot of poorly-selected shots that had no real chance of getting in seems to be another early season trend.
By the time the Blues started really playing well and controlling the play, it was too late. The responding goal by Matt D'Agostini was a nice change and gave the Blues a little bit of a boost, but you can't spot many NHL teams three goals before you get going and expect to win.
Coming into this four game road trip, I thought to myself that it would be nice to come out of it 3-1, or at least 2-1-1. With games against the Ducks, Sharks and Kings left on the docket, that is going to be a tough task. Especially if these early games are an indication of how the team plans to attack games.
A few topics for your consideration:
- Whether you're an "It's too early to judge" person or a "Halak is a mess" person is irrelevant at this point. What is important to know is that this year is clearly tied to him. If he gets on track and stops being all Chris Mason-like then the Blues will be good. If he continues to let in soft goals and ill-timed goals, the Blues will be bad. There is no other answer. He will not be traded. He will not be benched for Brian Elliott. Ben Bishop will not come riding in on a Ford made in St. Louis with a Chaminade t-shirt on, a bowl of toasted ravs in his lap and a bottle of Budweiser in his hand: the St. Louis kid isn't going to get a chance to steal Halak's job until next summer. This is it. It is Halak or bust. Maybe both.
- The Stars are not a good team. Wanna know how I know that? Steve Ott has become the face of the franchise. He's on the power play, the penalty kill, last minutes and nearly every other situation you can imagine. Steve Ott is a valuable player because he can do a lot of things for his team. That said, he just isn't good enough to earn all those opportunities on any good team. Ergo: Dallas is not a good team.
- Kari Lehtonen, on the other hand, is a really good goalie. He made the saves he was supposed to make and plenty that he shouldn't have made. Swimming around in front of his net on the first Blues goal isn't going to make him a ton of fans in Dallas, but overall he proved he's worthy of the Stars' trust in him when Atlanta gave up on him.
- Great goaltending by the other team or not and a ton of shots by the Blues again (38) or not, at some point we have to stop hanging these losses on, "Sometimes you run into a hot goalie." Yeah, and sometimes you make a good goalie look great by not making him work too hard for his 36 saves. The Blues' goals were scored when Lehtonen was moving. He was scrambling on the first one and, as the broadcast team pointed out, On Chris Stewart's goal, he changed the angle before firing a quick, hard shot back against the grain. When Lehtonen was set and just had to block or catch shots, he made it look easy.
- I said earlier this week that the Chris Stewart - T.J. Oshie - Patrik Berglund line looks like it might score at least one goal every game this year. I still think that's true if only because they looked pedestrian for half of the game and then dominant for the rest of the game. Even if they're only playing like they're interested for half of every game, they'll still likely score. But just think what they can do to this league if they come out of the gate ready to go and play that way all 60 minutes? Monstrous.
- Captain David Backes needs to - stop me if you've heard this before - get off this slow start to the season train that he seems to... What's that? Oh, you have heard this before? OK, I'll stop. Seriously, Kelly's husband, one assist and a minus-1 through three games is not good enough.
- Alex Pietrangelo and Kevin Shattenkirk are a blast to watch play. I love the offensive mentality they have and the way the handle and distribute the puck. Nikita Nikitin has a similar vibe to him, but he's much more of a bull in a china shop about it. Where the other two look smooth and controlled, Nikitin seems to always be barreling into the play and just blasting away with abandon when he gets the puck. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing, but the contrast seems pretty stark.
- The great thing about the offensive chances the kids are taking is that it isn't hurting the Blues defensively. Pietrangelo got beat on the shortie goal, but that was because of the weird bounce off the glass and not because he blew coverage. I think the reason the defenders can take those chances is because Barret Jackman, Kent Huskins and Roman Polak are playing such smart, defensive games as the partners in those pairings. Doug Armstrong, the architect of this blueline, has to be happy with how the unit is playing.
Saturday in San Jose is the next chance to do it all right. We'll be here, not watching baseball. You?
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Sean.
You read my mind. Couldn’t have said it better. You get me. :-)
Brad Winchester rejected me once. Then the Blues rejected him. Karma is a bitchwhore.
No baseball Saturday
So yeah, I’ll be watching. (Not that I wasn’t watching tonight, but you know what I mean.)
Good points all around...
Some other observations
Yeah, we missed some chances too despite taking alot of low quality shots. McDonald had an empty net look early on in the first with lehtonen srawled face first on the ice, and he sent it over the net. Steen hit the post early in the 2nd and had Lehtonen completely beat. The shorty was bad luck…a bad bounce, and Loui Eriksson is a good finisher/great on breakaways/shootouts.
I thought the 2nd goal, jaro shoulda stopped, but the one on the Power Play, he was screened by Morrow, and Polak just let Morrow stand there. we gotta be more physical on whoever is setting up in front of Jaro. Screens are the anti-jaro water.
Just my thoughts and observations.
But this for sure.
Whether you’re an “It’s too early to judge” person or a “Halak is a mess” person is irrelevant at this point. What is important to know is that this year is clearly tied to him. If he gets on track and stops being all Chris Mason-like then the Blues will be good. If he continues to let in soft goals and ill-timed goals, the Blues will be bad. There is no other answer. He will not be traded. He will not be benched for Brian Elliott. Ben Bishop will not come riding in on a Ford made in St. Louis with a Chaminade t-shirt on, a bowl of toasted ravs in his lap and a bottle of Budweiser in his hand: the St. Louis kid isn’t going to get a chance to steal Halak’s job until next summer. This is it. It is Halak or bust. Maybe both.
Brad Winchester rejected me once. Then the Blues rejected him. Karma is a bitchwhore.
Still laughing at that mental image.
Brad Winchester rejected me once. Then the Blues rejected him. Karma is a bitchwhore.
by heycarrieann8 on Oct 13, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
talked to Blues GM Doug Armstrong today between periods
He was just chilling out in the concourse, unfortunately I saw him and went up to talk to him during the first intermission, because if it was during the second, I would have asked him to get us a new goalie
still holding tight on my theory from last year:
step 1) get an owner
step 2) trade halak and something else not named jake allen to the devils for zach parise
step 3) profit
Next in the Nate the Great mystery series: Nate the Great searches for a free-agent forward who doesn't blow dicks.
New Halak drinking game:
- Drink every time Jaro lets one through that he shouldn’t have.
- Pray you stay sober by the 2nd period.
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The comments on Steve Ott are proof you are doing some poor reporting. He may be a surprise to you, but all of us in Dallas know what we have in him. You are the BLUSERS and will always be and have not even sniffed the playoffs in years. Ergo: St Looser is the bad team.
by QUIETLY SUPPORTING THE STARS on Oct 14, 2011 8:03 AM CDT reply actions
Ott?
Are you talking about Steve “sucker punch and run” Ott? Is there a Steve Ott on your team who has broken 40 points more than once in 10 years and doesnt have a career +- of -28 or are we talking about the same person?
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Aren't you that guy who hates the blues?
its funny you should say that
As one of the very few fans AT the game last night..I noticed Mr.Ott caused a lot of problems for the blues.you noticed him everytime he was on the ice.Surely he is not a 40 point guy every season,but he seems to make things happen that don’t always end up on the score sheet He may not score a lot of goals but he is still an important part of the stars team.on offense or defense..he gives a solid effort on every shift..what team wouldn’t want that..
weak sauce.
Steve Ott career high in points is 46. Steve Ott career-high in plus/minus is plus-6 back in 2002.
I know what you have in him, too, and it shouldn’t be a power play or penalty kill guy.
You love him, and that’s fine, but if he’s your team’s best player not named Kari, you guys are in trouble.
steve ott
Is NOT our best player not named Kari..nobody has said that he is beside you guys.I have accepted the fact this team is not built to score a lot of goals..and will get outshot on a nightly basis.and will most likely miss the postseason again…but to say that our team is nogood after we beat y’all regardless of how is pretty sore loserish..
Other best players not named Kari or Steve
Brenden, Mike, Loui, Jamie, Alex, and Stephane to name a few. Maybe even Vernon, Michael, Adam, and Sheldon, but the jury is out on a few of them until we see them through half a season. If you look at our roster and the point totals of those players, you’ll notice that I’m not judging who’s “best” based entirely off of points as many people in this thread have decided to do (in error).
Here’s the reality: Ott is a pest and you hate him because of it, but he’s also a peg you can plug into just about any hole and watch him do a decent job. Seeing as how there are 7 or 8 new players on the roster this year, Ott will be plugging into these holes until other players step up and fill those roles. His role will diminish as the season goes on, but he can fit in those slots and beyond being a pest, he is very underrated in his other abilities.
BTW ban me if you want...
Ban me for the post if you want. I don’t want to hang with a bunch of BLUSERS anyway!!
GO STARRRRRRRRRRRRRS!!!!!
by QUIETLY SUPPORTING THE STARS on Oct 14, 2011 8:05 AM CDT reply actions
Well...
At least we can fill an arena and support our team through rougher times…oh and are going to have an actual owner.
Plus, seriously dude, if you want to defend Steve Ott, offer some actual arguments. You’re whole, we in Dallas know what we have in him is equivalent to saying my Dad can beat up your Dad.
Lastly, check your facts. We made the playoffs 08-09. Stars haven’t been in since 07-08. Wikipedia is amazing brah!
by Cole Youngner on Oct 14, 2011 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Yawn.
“Please ban me”? Really? That’s the best you’ve got?
Maybe you’re writing this whiny nonsense on a Fisher-Price My First Troll® keyboard. Maybe in your corner of the world, “bluser” is some sort of deviously wicked burn. Maybe your definition of “edgy, confrontational humor” includes exemplars like Carrot Top and Jay Leno.
Banning you would be like banning oatmeal. It’s mushy, bland, and completely inoffensive to anyone; at its absolute worst, it’s just a waste of space. Sorry, dude, your oatmeal is just not worth the effort.
Then why the hell are you here?
Are you one of those melodamatic 12 year olds that like to re-live the latest lunchroom drama over and over again? If you don’t want to be here, go away. But probably don’t go to DBD either, because I think you’d grate on their nerves, too.
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I have no idea why it double posted and then deleted the text of my original post.
This computer hates me.
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4 wins against the Blues last year. Where'd that get you?
Oh yeah . . . on the outside, looking in, just like our boys did.
Fucking troll.
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Steve Ott
He had the best faceoff percentage on the Stars team last season at 56.6%. That was better than Richards (50.6%) and Ribeiro (46.6%) who were our top 2 centers on the team last year. (This, of course, is disregarding those that took only a handful of faceoffs, so ignoring Tomas Vincour who had a FO% of 75% but only took 4 draws…) He’s drawing at 52.2% so far this season, better than Ribeiro’s dismal 35.4% and Fiddler’s solid, but low for him, 42.2%.
So, when you want to win a faceoff because you’re on the PK – you send Ott in. When you want to win an offensive faceoff – you send Ott in. He’s being used in many different situations because he can get the work done on the dot, and half of special teams are done in the faceoff circle. There’s a reason you see him in all situations in Dallas – and his faceoff wins is a big part of that.
Now, I’m not saying that on a good team Ott is your “all situations” guy – truthfully, he’s suited to a 3rd line guy and some PK time at most. However, he has proven in seasons past that if given the opportunity with top 6 minutes he can produce (19g 27a in 2008-2009.) The Stars lines are still a work in progress while they find chemistry between guys and see what clicks. For now, that means he’s playing with two really good young guys – Benn and Eriksson – and there’s no telling what their ability to finish is going to do for Ott’s stats.
by Taylor Baird on Oct 14, 2011 9:55 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
So to relate to Dallas fans
In the not too distant past when the current blues roster was still taking form, we had to play Barret Jackman on our top defensive pair. Now make no mistake Jax is a good defenseman, the dude is a good defender in his own end and can not suck terribly in the offensive end. He can step in every once in a while on the top pair but in reality hes just a really good second pairing guy. We needed him to play against the best because hes a fucking trooper and hes all we had. If hes playing with like Keith or Chara supporting them he can make due but if hes your number 1 defender your fucked. He was our number one defender, we were fucked. I hope you can see where this is going. Since you are playing Ott a guy who can play a little on the second line and do stupid shit repeatedly and somehow have the refs let him get away with it on your PP, PK and important minutes, I got some bad news for you.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Aren't you that guy who hates the blues?
shots
Blues lead in most shots per game in the eniter nhl and the least shots agains per game, and therefore, by definition, the greatest margin of difference between shots taken and given, yet have played one solid game against a backup golaies.
the win column has to change with that kind of output on both ends.
period
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by Childhood Trauma on Oct 14, 2011 1:35 PM CDT reply actions
I think I can sum up most of the posts in this thread right here:
Neither the Blues nor the Stars look like especially good teams right now.
That was fun.

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