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Cardinals pitcher Chris Carpenter talks to someone who mispronounces his name often. (Photo from @lkorac10 on Twitter)

As a Blues fan, I have no delusion about the role of my team in my hometown. 

At Busch Stadium, they call the place Baseball Heaven, the gathering place for the self-described "Best Fans In Baseball." I've seen my fair share of games there and the Busch Stadium before that. I get it, we live in a baseball town, home to a baseball team that just won the World Series. 

I get it. The Blues want to capitalize. They want in on the good mojo. They want to attract some non-traditional hockey fans to the game tonight. They want some of the luck the Rams got on Sunday by hosting the Cardinals, but what is going on tonight is sad and borderline pathetic. They are groveling at the foot of the Stan The Man statute, they're kissing Fredbird's ring. 

I don't mind Tony La Russa dropping the first puck of the night. Jim Edmonds did that right after the Cardinals won in 2006. But they didn't put Jimmy Ballgame's face all over the team website two days before. The team didn't sell tickets for $15, Edmonds' jersey number. The team didn't encourage fans to wear Cardinals gear to get a discount on hot dogs at the concession stand. 

The Cardinals have monopolized the media and fans' attention for the last month. Shouldn't the Blues be trying to make us forget about the baseball team? Don't the Blues think they can attract fans on their own? 

There's a fine line between a good marketing plan and looking desperate. Asking fans to believe makes some sense. It's not a huge stretch. Asking fans to Don't Stop Believin' just comes off as not knowing your audience and not realizing a song that's played at every Red Wings game might not be the best centerpiece for your marketing efforts. In the same vein, having some Cardinals show up, letting Chris Carpenter skate in practice and generally fitting them into the normal game activities makes sense. Going all out with a Cardinals theme night screams, "Hey, we like the Cardinals! And they like us! Buy some cheap tickets instead of waiting 18 hours to meet David Freese!

What do you think of the Cardinals connection? Tell us down below.

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I have no problem with it. Like you said, the Cardinals have controlled St. Louis for a month now. Last Friday, no one here put up a GDT and almost no one noticed. Everyone was transfixed on baseball.

The Blues are simply trying to get back into the conversation. The way I see it, it’s the passing of the baton in the relay race. The Cardinals are done and now it’s the Blues time to shine. But the moment the baton is passed, the two share the save space, so embrace it.

If some Cards’ fan goes to his/her first game tonight … that’s a good thing, right?

by averagejoe on Nov 4, 2011 9:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe...

“If some Cards’ fan goes to his/her first game tonight … that’s a good thing, right?”

If you like yelling at people to sit down and “wait for the whistle!” all night long.

by Mr. Particle on Nov 4, 2011 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is my one beef with hockey fans

the stupid hipster attitude. more fans = better. they’ll learn to sit down. id kill for the blues to have the fan base of the cards.

by averagejoe on Nov 4, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree that more FANS is better

but people in seats doesn’t mean they are fans. I guess you’ve never had to sit in front of some chick or dude on a date who talked non-stop the whole night long, and not about hockey.

It’s not a hipster attitude, it’s common courtesy, which many casual or one-time fans seem to lack.

Yeah, fill the seats with people who want to watch the game. But just filling the seats… not good enough.

by Mr. Particle on Nov 4, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

''id kill for the blues to have the fan base of the cards.''

So would I, but you’ve got to keep in mind that the reason why the Cardinals have such a big fan base is that for the first 75 years or so of their existence, the Cards were as far West as major-league sports in America went.

Anyone living west of the Mississippi was pretty much a Cardinals fan by default until the Dodgers and Giants moved to California, and the A’s stopped off in Kansas City for a couple of years on their way to Oakland.

The Blues do not have the history that the Cardinals do, nor have they ever had the luxury of being the only major-league game in town, which the Cardinals were for a long time (the St. Louis Browns notwithstanding).

The Cardinals were embedded in this city’s collective soul long before the Blues were even a gleam in Sid Da Turd’s eye…

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by Tomorrows Blues on Nov 4, 2011 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Westernmost AND Southernmost.

Add “south of the Smokies” and “until the Braves moved to Atlanta”.

by BleedBlue42 on Nov 4, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

ya know

the only thing i don’t like is the “wear cards gear to get a discount!”

the rest of it? fine by me. but don’t bring red into the drinkscotch. we’re the blues.

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by NateTheGreat. on Nov 4, 2011 9:11 AM CDT reply actions  

That's really the only part I dislike too.

It’s nice for a couple of teams from the same town to recognize successes amongst themselves, and let’s face it, the Cards are the only successful team we’ve had here for the past decade. I really don’t mind the tie-ins (though the TLR love’s a bit much), but the wearing of the gear… come on. You’re at a Blues game. Wear Blues stuff – and who the hell wants a crappy free hot dog? If you’re encouraging fans to wear gear from another team, at least make it a decent promotion, like a hot dog and popcorn. Boom.

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by hildymac on Nov 4, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

If I thought it were THAT sad, I'd give my ticket for tonight away.

Look, we’ve already established that the Blues have no marketing department to speak of, so the fact that they even know they HAVE a major sports entertainment competitor is quite encouraging.

If anything, this makes me happier to show up to tonight’s game. No, I will not be wearing my Cardinals gear (and Lord knows I have a fuckload of it), but why wouldn’t we celebrate something a team has done a fourth time in a time period in which the Blues have never done?

This is no different and certainly no worse than when the Cubs had Blackhawks players throw out first pitches last July.

“HEY GUYS! CHECK IT OUT! THESE GUYS WON SOMETHING AND WE’D LIKE TO WIN SHIT TOO!!!!!”

This seems more or less an argument to start an argument. And all I can say is “Meh.”

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by Donut King on Nov 4, 2011 9:25 AM CDT via iPhone app reply actions  

The best part about this team synergy?

Seeing Fredbird parade Louie around in a leash and gimp mask for the entire game. At least now there’s a reason why the pantsless blue rat doesn’t wear pants.

Seriously, though, I don’t mind it. I’m a fan of both teams. This is like some kind of Captain America/Batman teamup. Sure, it shouldn’t happen, but it does and it’s still kinda cool anyway. If someone shows up in Cards gear, so be it. It’s not like I didn’t see that at the Calgary game last month or the pre-season game in September.

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by Paperwork Ninja on Nov 4, 2011 9:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Indeed.

I’m beginning to wonder if Coach Payne shouldn’t start punishing under-performing players by making them wear the Louie costume at home games.

Davis Payne will be very matter-of-fact about it in press conferences. “Yes, David Backes is a healthy scratch tonight, as we’re trying to shake up the power play a little. No, he won’t be available in the press box, though. He’ll be performing other duties as assigned.”

Meanwhile, in the hallway, Louie is on top of a Chicago fan in a Jonathan Toews jersey and punching all his blood out. From inside the suit all you hear is “I’LL-SCORE-MORE-POWER-PLAY-GOALS” with each punch.

And in the background, there’s Chris Carpenter nodding and smiling beatifically while he’s got Fredbird in a headlock. “That’ll do, bear, that’ll do.”

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by Paperwork Ninja on Nov 4, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

''This is like some kind of Captain America/Batman teamup...''

Pssh… if Batman teamed up with ANYONE from the Marvel Universe, it would be Wolverine. Both ass-kickers who will do whatever it takes to right a wrong, and who don’t use firearms.

Captain America and Batman do have in common the fact that they’re basically just enhanced normal humans who have trained themselves to the peak of physical prowess… although Cap does have the whole “super-soldier serum:” thing goin’ on, thanks to iron Man’s dad.

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by Tomorrows Blues on Nov 4, 2011 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Engage comic-nerd mode.

I don’t think Batman would appreciate Wolvie’s penchant for ripping people new bodily orifices. Batty’s usually a nonlethal-first kind of guy.

If you want a Marvel character to team up with Bruce Wayne, you want Frank Miller’s Daredevil.

by BleedBlue42 on Nov 4, 2011 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Double engage comic nerd mode...

…in the Amalgam crossover series, the “Gods” of the Marvel and DC universe matched up it’s superheroes in battles to see which universe would survive. Heroes from one had to face off against one from the other. Spiderman vs. Superboy. Robin vs. Jubilee. Superman vs. The Hulk. Wolverine vs. Lobo. And Batman vs. Captain America.

So there’s the answer to that. It is worth noting though, that when no discernible winner arose and the Gods simply combined heroes, it was Wolverine and Batman that merged. And also, oddly, Bruce Wayne and Nick Fury.

/nerd’d to the max!

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by TheDuke32 on Nov 4, 2011 8:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wolverine vs. Lobo was epic...

…and Aquaman kicked Namor’s pointy-eared ass.

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by Tomorrows Blues on Nov 5, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could see a Bruce Wayne / Matt Murdock team-up...

The more I think about it, the more I like it, actually.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

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by Tomorrows Blues on Nov 5, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

as a sidenote,

i have worn blues gear to a cards game before.

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by NateTheGreat. on Nov 4, 2011 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm not particularly high on it.

Then again, I’m a Cubs fan.

Look, I have nothing against supporting the home town team (other than the entire “best fans in baseball” thing and Cards fans holier than attitude), and Carpenter, Freese and so on being there is fine. Them pushing forward a gimmick so strongly makes me want to roll my eyes though.

Is willing to go to the mattresses with the lot of yous.

by Novacain on Nov 4, 2011 10:36 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

The Cardinals crossover doesn't bother me at all.

But that giant Don’t Stop Believin’ billboard I drive by every. single. day. That’s another story.

by scottcharboneau on Nov 4, 2011 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Those need to get fixed quickly.

It’s just not right.

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by Paperwork Ninja on Nov 4, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'll dress this up a bit

i could say wahat i want about the cardinals and tlr (im STILL a whitey man- so phhhttt) but one thing, as a fan, the blues could learn from their hometown athelete brothers is how to be a team. in the post strike era, is anyone here going to claim the blues have not had leadership/team/bus throwing issues? or that the cardinals have?

carpenter is a great pitcher. from what i’ve seen he is ALSO a great teammate and leader, and while albert i am less convinced is the greatest man in the cardinals lockerroom, i believehe wants to win first and foremost. there isn’t a single ram i could say that about and i have too many doubts still about the blues.

leadership via osmosis. hang out with the cardinal pitching staff in spring training. buy tlr drinks (but for heaven’s sake get him a cab fo rhte ride home).

learn to win from winners.

if it is the cardinals. so much the better.

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by Childhood Trauma on Nov 4, 2011 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I just saw Carp skating on MLB network...

…and he looked pretty damn good out there. (Better than Nikita’s looked.)

by Rich of GASL on Nov 4, 2011 4:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I think you're over-reacting just a LITTLE bit...

…but I’m also slowly coming to the realization that maybe there aren’t a lot of people who give a shit what I think.

So, whatever. All is well. Carry on.

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by Tomorrows Blues on Nov 4, 2011 7:01 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I love our home town teams. I love hockey more, but I can appreciate some cross promotion for a team that just won it all. It was fucking awesome. I will never forget October of 2011.

by NaJaKwa on Nov 4, 2011 9:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Confession to Make

I’ll admit I was a baseball fan first, specifically a Cardinal fan who found her way into hockey during the off-season when I needed something to do. Football season didn’t last long enough. Plus there’s only 1 game a week.

So it’s something I got a charge out of — Cards at the Blues game.

But now I live in Washington, DC. There has been cross fertilization among their various sports. There was one occasion at a Caps game where several members of the Nats were signing autographs before the game. (Unfortunately, I couldn’t get there in time for Nats autographs.) And, for Nats games, there have been numerous occasions where a player or coach would throw out the first ball.

Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.

by CapsFan75 on Nov 4, 2011 10:02 PM CDT reply actions  

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