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Blues beat Red Wings; fans happily walk out of building with two points.

Dear Winging It In Slumtown, maybe next time you're going to write a smug, brother-in-arms piece to the Blackhawks fans and talk about how you two should rub your dicks together and talk about how you're both better than the Blues, you might want to wait until after the game is played.

Just some advice from us to you.

And while I'm sure you guys are taking solace in how your players didn't goon it up and start a bunch of post-whistle scrums or resort to cheap-shotting the Blues' goalie, I'd just like to remind you to watch the replay of the game: your little angels in red did more than a fair share of the meaningless goonery and scrum-starting.

Apropos of Detroit, let's wrap this up with bullets:

  • So, Brian Elliott is the Blues starter. Let's agree to not say it too loudly, because the competition is still driving Jaroslav Halak to play as hard as he can, but really, come on. Elliott is now 11-2-0 on the season. His GAA is 1.56 and his save percentage is 94.4%. He makes all the saves he's supposed to make and a lot of saves he's not supposed to make. He's got successive starts against Chicago and Detroit and the good money says Halak starts against the struggling Ducks and Elliott goes against the better Sharks on Saturday.
  • Referees tend to suck both ways and I usually think that anyone who thinks their team gets screwed over by refs more than any other team is more of a homer than even me, but on Saturday we all felt like we got jobbed by the refs, especially on the Carcillo third-man-in non-ejection and Jonny Toes non-roughing. Well, so does Kerry Fraser. Tonight, I have no idea how David Perron gets a goalie interference and Jimmy-Jam Howard gets nothing for his pouncing on Perron.
  • Patrik Berglund's goal? Awesome. Let's hope it is also confidence-inspiring:



  • Finally, the Blues got the win because they did what they do when they are at their best: they played with speed, moved the puck, possessed the puck and played tenacious defense, especially against the Wings' best offensive players. It's still not an every shift, every game mentality for this team yet, but Hitchcock's influence is there. When it becomes routine, the Blues will be a threat to win every night.

I'll leave the comments to you all to point out the other highlights and to the Red Wing fans who will surely show up to troll the comments. Hopefully, we'll get another one like the Blackhawk fan who showed up to talk trash, got banned, begged to be unbanned and then went to the Hawks site to say what a terrible site this one is. Oh, Chicago, you make the internet what we all hate.

Ducks on Thursday, Let's Go Blues.

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You mean to tell me

that I missed out on you guys actually banning someone???

Look I'm sure youre a nice person and everything but that Redwings jersey you're wearing makes me want to cave your face in with my fist...it's not you it's me and the fact that you're a fucking Redwings fan

by RFJCC on Dec 6, 2011 10:15 PM CST reply actions  

it was a quiet banning

he came, he trolled, he was banned and then he claimed he wasnt trolling.

by averagejoe on Dec 6, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Also what has happened to WIM?

When I was banned they were run by a very polite young woman, now they’ve decided that the douce-bag knob needs to have an 11 on it… Seriously, for a team that is ‘doing sooo much better than the blues’ they sure spend an incredibly large amount of time bitching about us…

Look I'm sure youre a nice person and everything but that Redwings jersey you're wearing makes me want to cave your face in with my fist...it's not you it's me and the fact that you're a fucking Redwings fan

by RFJCC on Dec 6, 2011 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Christy has been gone a couple years

College has warped your sense of time.

www.stlouisgametime.com

by Brad Lee on Dec 6, 2011 10:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I really don't want to grow up...

Look I'm sure youre a nice person and everything but that Redwings jersey you're wearing makes me want to cave your face in with my fist...it's not you it's me and the fact that you're a fucking Redwings fan

by RFJCC on Dec 6, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions  

If at all possible, don't do it.

It’s not all that it’s cracked up to be……

Two words: IRS audit.

Shit happens…..

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by HockeyHippie on Dec 7, 2011 7:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Fuck

Two acronyms I don’t like, IRS and DMV. Primus even wrote a song about the latter.

PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean?

by DanGNR on Dec 7, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Ha, good point!

I’ll have to send you a pict from the seats I had for Todd and I. Of course neither of us were able to enjoy them…….Grrrrrr.

Love Primus.

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by HockeyHippie on Dec 7, 2011 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

What I want to know where was Elliott in the Perron mugging?

The other goalie goes goon and your guys are down 1 man and you stay in the crease?

Wrong answer. You need to be doing a Flying Wallenda Bros leap like Langerbrunner into the pile.

Just a chew toy for the hockey gods

by spectr17 on Dec 6, 2011 10:15 PM CST reply actions  

He started skating and stopped short of his own blue line.

A few thousand people were waving him down for a goalie fight. Would have been amazing.

www.stlouisgametime.com

by Brad Lee on Dec 6, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

if he crosses the red line

thats a penalty. with howard not getting one, that wouldve been a 5-on-3.

by averagejoe on Dec 6, 2011 10:56 PM CST up reply actions  

so letting them wail on DP's egg is what he should do?

makes sense to me

Just a chew toy for the hockey gods

by spectr17 on Dec 6, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

not saying that

just saying those are the consequences. i think he would’ve gone done had their been an actual fight. no one dropping the gloves, no sense picking up a minor.

by averagejoe on Dec 6, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

The game recap on that dumbass wings blog is all about how the Blues are a boring team.

When did we become the Minnesota Wild? For a system that is focused so much on defense, I think this team is a lot more exciting to watch now than it has been in years. And the first comment pretty much sums up the douchiness of most wings fans I’ve encountered. “Detroit better figure out how to beat central division teams
especially the blatantly inferior ones (i.e. Columbus, St. Louis)” Ass clown.

"At least we aren't Cleveland." - every team that's ever sucked that wasn't from Cleveland.

by blunatic on Dec 6, 2011 10:23 PM CST reply actions  

I feel like at this point Wings fans are trolling themselves

Fear of what may be. “This isn’t happening, this isn’t happening, there isn’t a ghost, there isn’t a ghost…”

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 6, 2011 10:26 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Someday the wings will be bad again

and their fans will disappear just like the whole city of Detroit disappeared when their city began to collapse. (Yes trolls I am once again pointing out that your city is still a shithole no matter how many times you try and tell me that Chryslers are luxury cars)

Look I'm sure youre a nice person and everything but that Redwings jersey you're wearing makes me want to cave your face in with my fist...it's not you it's me and the fact that you're a fucking Redwings fan

by RFJCC on Dec 6, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Well

I guess your meal ticket getting shut down and your team out played for the duration would be boring to watch. Great fun for us though.

Barret Jackman is my hero.

In remembrance of Pavol Demitra and all our fallen Blues brethren.

by BluesTiger on Dec 7, 2011 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I think we can all say

the Blues are better than the Red Wings. More arguments to that effect first thing Wednesday.

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by Brad Lee on Dec 6, 2011 10:24 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

Girth > Length

The Blues’ Cock is fatter than the Wings’ Cock. Ergo, the Blues are the better team. Just ask any one of the self-employed “entertainment professionals” over in East Boogie.

by BleedBlue42 on Dec 7, 2011 2:05 AM CST up reply actions  

someone needs to find the pic of Gary Oak saying, “You can’t ignore my girth!” and put a blues jersey on him.

I am a direct descendant of Buffalo Bill Cody -- Everything makes so much more sense now.

by Carnie on Dec 7, 2011 5:04 AM CST up reply actions  

I miss PT's....

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by HockeyHippie on Dec 7, 2011 7:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Also, anyone who says the Blues play a boring, defensive game

is just looking at the new coach and deciding that it must be so. The Blues had almost 30 shaots again and have an aggressive, puck-possession style offense. They break out aggressively and carry the puck into the offensive zone way more than they dump and chase.

Pay attention, dummies, the Cock has adapted to the NHL, he’s not making the NHL adapt to a trap defense.

by gallagher on Dec 6, 2011 10:48 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

thank you

every sbnation blog after a loss to the HitchBlues has called the team boring and trappy. i haven’t seen it.

by averagejoe on Dec 6, 2011 10:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Almost 30 whole shots?

Break up the high-flying Blues!

[goes to NHL.com, looks up team stats, sees that 17 teams are averaging more than 30 shots a game, continues yawning at the Blues trapping style]

by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 7, 2011 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

The Blues are not playing "the trap."

If you’re going to discuss, at least watch the frigging games.

by Washoo on Dec 7, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

For a team that doesn't play "the trap"

I saw a whole lot of one-forechecker high in the zone during that one.

Every team traps a bit; it’s dumb not to. Your team’s style is boring.

by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 7, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Your team’s style is boring.

Straight trollin’.
Shouldn’t really expect anything different from a WIIM’er.

by Washoo on Dec 7, 2011 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously?

Is there anything I can say that may be an opinion about the Blues that isn’t trolling to you? Is your skin so thin that hearing an opponent thinks your team beat them using a boring system is that hurtful?

Were you excited about that first period?

by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 7, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Sigh...

Blues hockey is not boring. You are either assuming it must be so because Hitchcock is the coach, or you’re so embarrassed that the Blues owning Detroit right now that you’re insisting on this point to make yourself feel better.

I watched the game. It wasn’t boring. It wasn’t “trap.” We are certainly a more defensive-minded team than we were in the past, but in case you haven’t noticed – WE’RE WINNING HOCKEY GAMES. We’re not lights-out on offense, but we score goals.

The “opinions” you’re spouting are so patently untrue to anyone that is actually watching Blues hockey right now, that it seems as though you MUST be trolling. Or else just that ignorant, or in denial that the “clearly inferior” Blues are beating Detroit.

by Washoo on Dec 7, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

You are either assuming it must be so because Hitchcock is the coach, or you’re so embarrassed that the Blues owning Detroit right now that you’re insisting on this point to make yourself feel better.

Who’s trolling whom now, chum?

Games get less boring when you win them, I’ll give you that. I’d happily take an 82-0 record (or even a realistic 105-point season) full of guaranteed snoozefests because winning is what’s important and fans of winning teams are plenty entertained solely by the win. Hell, I’ll take 2-1 victories over 8-7 victories all season long if that’s what it takes.

Haha… opinions… untrue…

My opinions are that the Blues are boring because they don’t create as many exciting scoring chances; that they sacrifice those in the pursuit of making sure they don’t give up as many. Is that patently untrue? Is it untrue that this is the way the Blues play hockey? Are you telling me that they’re not a play-it-safe defensive-minded team?

So what’s the truth here, then if I’m wrong about this? Because that’s what I’m basing my opinions on.

by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 7, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Now you're crawfishing.

Playing “trap” and playing “defensively-minded” are two different things. You claimed the Blues were playing the trap, which is untrue.

If you truly find the style of play boring, so be it. I, and most others who actually watch the Blues play hockey on a regular basis, think you’re just butthurt because you’re losing to us (the “clearly inferior” team) and scrambling to find a way to knock us down. Because it’s not “trap” hockey. There are scoring chances, and plenty of them. It’s not that much different than the style that many other teams in the NHL play.

And I’m not your “chum,” so just stow that.

by Washoo on Dec 7, 2011 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

No

I said “Trapping style” – you took that to mean “THE TRAP” – because apparently that’s such a horrific buzzword that people instantly bristle at its mere mention.

If I wanted to knock the Blues down, I’d just start going on about how they really are an inferior team which can’t put up goals when it matters and that it’s nice that they use playoff-intensity during their November and December games against the Wings, who view these as regular season means-to-an-end.

Yeah, there are scoring chances, and plenty of them… just not enough. As far as having a similar style to a majority of the rest of the NHL, that’s well and good. Most of the teams in the NHL are mediocre and half to play a less-entertaining style of hockey because they don’t have the pieces to compete at a more up-tempo wide-open pace.

It’s nothing to be ashamed about when you’re winning, but let’s not get mixed up in thinking the Blues are a contender now.

by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 7, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

How many Blues games have you watched?

Also, why are you here?

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by Classic17 on Dec 7, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m just opening the lines of communication.

This season, I’ve seen five Blues games. I even rooted for them in one of them.

by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 7, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

How many under Payne and how many under The Cock?

heh heh….under the cock.

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by Classic17 on Dec 7, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

The Pittsburgh versus suck-fest-for-Crosby was a Cock game, yes?

If so, then it’s 3 cock/2 Payne

by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 7, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Just curious

Carry on…

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by Classic17 on Dec 7, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

This is a troll post,

chock-full of butthurt.

No more, no less, and not worthy of any more of our time.

by Washoo on Dec 7, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

While you are posting fair points.

The blues indeed are now a defensive minded team, but not a fall back and play defense because we can’t score team. Their defense leads to a high paced breakout offense, spurred by their defense making quick first paces. It is a solid 200 foot game, and just because they fail to be “up-tempo” in your eyes, doesn’t mean they aren’t up-tempo. The Blues are a dangerous team that have found a way to utilize their talent at the highest levels and win games using this offense and defense. The first period of last nights game wasn’t too exciting, but many teams get in to snorefests, regardless of offensive and defensive strategy. The game opened up after that and was a very exciting game from the 2nd on.

Ushering in the house of cock....still working on that name.

by stlbluesfan029 on Dec 7, 2011 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Passes*

Ushering in the house of cock....still working on that name.

by stlbluesfan029 on Dec 7, 2011 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Fair response

I wouldn’t say the third was very exciting either, but I’m just a butthurt troll, so what do I know?

Honestly, Ken Hitchcock is probably the Barry Trotz of the Blues now. He’s going to get a lot out of them and he’s going to make them win more games than Payne would have. Is he going to get them past the 2nd round? I don’t think so, but who knows? The Lightning made their conference finals last year; anything could happen.

by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 7, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

We can recognize your trolling...

By your inability to stop spewing what you repeatedly call “your opinion” and other garbage on the comments of a Blues fan page. The only reason you think Blues games are “boring” is because you aren’t really a fan of hockey, but rather are are attempting to fake an interest in the oh so popular Red Wings because it seems to be popular with the cool kids on your block.

Personally, I enjoy watching almost about 99% of any NHL game, even the low scoring ones played by teams I am not a fan of. If you can’t find something interesting to watch during a game of hockey, I would suggest that you consider watching golf, tennis, or curling.

"It was one thing to know your heart, another thing to admit it. And something altogether different to allow yourself to follow it." ~R.A. Salvatore

by Gene_STL on Dec 7, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Hahaha

Anybody who knows me knows that I don’t have to defend my hockey fandom. Nice try though

by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 7, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

It must be good therapy after a game loss to the St. Louis Blues.....

…to spend the whole next day on the Internetz, lamenting the loss of your poor Red Wings to such a “boring team” on SBNation then. Honestly, I’m glad to see you getting the help that you need here. ;)

"It was one thing to know your heart, another thing to admit it. And something altogether different to allow yourself to follow it." ~R.A. Salvatore

by Gene_STL on Dec 7, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank you for being my sponsor

by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 7, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe, just maybe...

if your team had a little more skill they could beat the “boring system”. until your team finds a way to man up, maybe you should shut up.

www.marsbands.com

by Mars on Dec 7, 2011 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Last time I checked...

the NHL doesn’t award style points. A "pretty"win vs an “ugly” or “boring” or “trap” win is still a Win.

Yes, you guys have won more Cups. Yes, you guys lost last night. Get over it, and over yourself.

Go cry somewhere where a fellow Wings fan might care. We don’t.

One nice thing about growing up a Blues fan, we’ve grown thick skins.

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by HockeyHippie on Dec 7, 2011 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

who me?

im not a wing fan! how dare you!
i bleed blue like a mo’fo’

www.marsbands.com

by Mars on Dec 8, 2011 2:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Still pissed about the Howard call.

He was too dumb to see that his own teammate shoved Perron into him.

by squoose on Dec 6, 2011 10:50 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

on twitter, rutherford had a great quote from Sturat:

Stuart: "(Perron) couldn’t stop himself from going into him. It wasn’t a real harmful collision, I didn’t feel. He certainly didn’t try to get out of the way, which you don’t like to see. But I didn’t feel like he ran in with a whole lot of force"

by gallagher on Dec 6, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I feel like a good old English soccer chant sums up the last few days on SBN.

I’m going down to the Championship division for a Millwall classic:

“No one likes us, no one likes us
No one likes us, we don’t care!”

Sounds about right.

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by Classic17 on Dec 7, 2011 12:15 AM CST reply actions  

My Dempsey and Backes jerseys

hang side by side for a reason. Two favorite current athletes in any sport.

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by Classic17 on Dec 7, 2011 1:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Ugh... Dempsey...

I was never the biggest Dempsey fan but never minded the guy until yesterday. I’m a big Liverpool fan and the way he played in their game against Fulham yesterday makes it hard for me to say anything close to nice about the guy.

"At least we aren't Cleveland." - every team that's ever sucked that wasn't from Cleveland.

by blunatic on Dec 7, 2011 1:48 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah that was a hell of an over reaction on Bellamy's tackle

but i wish he would have beat Bellamy’s ass.

I’m a Bolton supporter, but i do like Suarez. My Suarez Ajax jersey is one of my most prized possessions.

by bleedblue942 on Dec 7, 2011 1:58 AM CST up reply actions  

The over reaction was one thing.

It was the manner in which he overreacted that i didn’t like. He came off as a whiny jerkoff with the way he acted.

I must say, I’m jealous of the jersey. I am getting a Suarez Liverpool jersey for Xman. I really liked him throughout the world cup and that handball against Ghana was possibly my favorite moment in sports history. Needless to say, I was more than thrilled when I found out he would be wearing Liverpool red. And I love this whole supervillian rep he has going on.

Let's Go Blues
Go Pack Go
You'll Never Walk Alone

by blunatic on Dec 7, 2011 2:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Love the fact we've got some EPL talk sprinkled in....

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by HockeyHippie on Dec 7, 2011 7:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Huge Gunner supporter here...

and Dempsey has always been overdramatic. So, nothing new there.

Its weird... half the year my blood is red... but then the other half... it's blue... hm...

by PeacockJac on Dec 7, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah.

US needs someone overdramatic anyway

by bleedblue942 on Dec 7, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

i agree with this entire post

my friends went with the “his handball disrespected the sport” route. i think it was a smart play that saved their cup chances.

by bleedblue942 on Dec 7, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

He did was 90% of players in his position would have done.

The only reason the other 10% wouldn’t is because they wouldn’t have thought to do it quick enough. He knew what he was doing, and he knew the consequences, but it was completely worth it to give his team even the faintest glimmer of hope. The rule was enforced correctly. It’s not his fault that Ghana douche can’t make a pk. That handball was 100% commendable.

Let's Go Blues
Go Pack Go
You'll Never Walk Alone

by blunatic on Dec 7, 2011 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

It was definitely an overreaction

I’d imagine they have a little history given Bellamy’s general doucheness. That’s part of what of why I like Dempsey so much. Other teams hate him and then he scores. I’d hate to play against him.

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by Classic17 on Dec 7, 2011 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

*THIS*

me likey

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by HockeyHippie on Dec 7, 2011 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I finally made my way over there to read it.

Seems kind of weird that they need to tell everyone how much they don’t care about us. It’s like ku with Mizzou.

“We don’t care about you! We’ll show you how much we don’t care about you by telling everyone how much we don’t care about you! That will really show em! Hey, Chicago, let’s not care about them together!”

But hey, it’s the internet.

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by Classic17 on Dec 7, 2011 1:44 AM CST up reply actions  

This sounds a lot like the lyrics to Jon Lajoie's "Fuck Everything"

“If there was a contest to see who doesn’t give a fuck the most,
I wouldn’t win cuz I don’t give a fuck about winnin yo.
I don’t even give a fuck about not giving a fuck so I do give a fuck… Wait what?”

On a side note, thank you to whoever it was who put that song in the daily links here one day. I haven’t stopped listening to it since.

"At least we aren't Cleveland." - every team that's ever sucked that wasn't from Cleveland.

by blunatic on Dec 7, 2011 1:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I am just happy that you guys don’t have ruies about subject lines.

One of the other three SB Nation sites I am with—a Cleveland one—it straight up silly about it. You put something in the comment line, and people jump your #%&! hard. It’s stilly, and takes away from the experience.

You guys are effing great….and the game day thread are almost as much fun as the games.

by OscarDog on Dec 7, 2011 2:05 AM CST reply actions  

I almost always use the subject lines.

Since you can click on the subject and hide the rest of the comment, I think it’s good practice to use the subjects. Especially during GDTs, when the profanity and picture-posting both get cranked up to 11.

I’ve seen where other sites don’t use them. To each their own, I guess.

by BleedBlue42 on Dec 7, 2011 2:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Worked last night, catching up now.

Reading the GDT’s is a blast, almost as much fun as during the game.

Go Blues and Fuck Detroit!

Now I’m off to bed….

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by HockeyHippie on Dec 7, 2011 7:46 AM CST reply actions  

all I have to say is...

Fuck Jimmy Howard. He should pounced on his own teammate, whinny little bitch. LET’S GO BLUES SOON BE FIRST IN THE WEST AND CENTRAL DIVISION!

by atc729 on Dec 7, 2011 10:48 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

this is the

hitch= payne point

what, other than the wins, is different?

goaltending

end of list

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by Childhood Trauma on Dec 7, 2011 5:55 PM CST reply actions  

Here's what's funny to me:

Wingtards crying about “boring hockey”, as though their precious team doesn’t care about clogging passing lanes or clearing pucks or backchecking or emphasizing two-way play.

Truth is, the Wings have been one of the best defensive teams in the league for a long time. In the last 17 years, they’ve been in the top ten in Goals Against 15 times. Their fans will cry about a “boring” Blues team who’s 5th in the league in GA this year; but guess who’s 4th?

The Wings are a defensive-oriented team with enough weapons to hurt opponents who don’t play equally strong defensive styles. All of the bitching and moaning about “boring” hockey is just smoke and mirrors; the Blues have pretty much caught up to the Wings defensively, and that’s what really sticks in their fans’ craw.

by BleedBlue42 on Dec 7, 2011 8:41 PM CST reply actions  

Huh?

Even when Detroit was putting up impressive defensive numbers, they kept games entertaining by putting up goals.

If the Blues had an offense anywhere close to those teams, nobody would be calling your team boring.

by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 8, 2011 6:59 AM CST up reply actions  

So if the Blues beat the Wings, say, 10-3...

… you wouldn’t call that “boring”? It doesn’t seem logical to me that a blowout loss would be more interesting than a close loss, but maybe I’m missing something.

Oh, and verb tense is wrong. Detroit is still putting up impressive defensive numbers. If you’re not paying attention to it, you’re overlooking the foundation of their success.

by BleedBlue42 on Dec 8, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I definitely wouldn’t call the 10-3 game boring. In fact, I didn’t call it that. I used lots of other words to describe that, but “boring” was not among them. Spending six hours to build a sand-castle and then having it kicked over in a manner of seconds by some jerk is more entertaining than struggling for six hours to get wet sand to stick together right before looking at the mess of a lump you’ve got at the end.

At the end of the day, you’ve spent as just as much time and have just as much to show for it. One is more painful and the other more frustrating. I’d rather deal with the painful option.

As far as verb tense, let’s go with “Detroit is back to putting up impressive defensive numbers.” That way, we don’t get caught up in calling the last three years something they weren’t.

by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 8, 2011 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Last I checked a win is a win.

This isn’t the BCS, style points don’t matter. Just accept the fact that we have dominated you guys over the past 3 seasons. We have a record of 8-4-2 against Detroit over that past 3 seasons and that over an 82 game pace is good for 105 points.

by mulax6 on Dec 8, 2011 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

What choice do I have but to accept it?

That’s an excellent record in a sample size too small for most NHL front offices to take seriously (Even Davis Payne was given 13 games this season before he got canned).

It’s just too bad the Blues haven’t had that same kind of success against the rest of the NHL since their last playoff appearance. If they were as good at beating every other team in the NHL as they are at beating Detroit, I wouldn’t have a comeback about your necessity to accept the fact that overall records tell more about how good a team is than head-to-head records and that St. Louis’ hasn’t been better than Detroit’s in over a decade.

Beat Detroit in the playoffs or finish ahead of them in the standings, then we’ll talk. It’s going to happen eventually; I accept that. When it does, then you can wear the same smug self-satisfaction I have. It will mean more to you than it has to me lately as well.

by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 8, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

is your team so boring you live here now?

if so: welcom to the blues

if not, please troll more interestingly, your boring style is defensive, repeatative and unreadable

And a harvest of righteousness is grown from the seed of peace planted by peacemakers.

by Childhood Trauma on Dec 8, 2011 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

But

… it works?

If you want to talk hockey, let’s do it.

by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 8, 2011 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Fuckin DeTwat

i used to really, really dis-like detroit. After Tuesday’s game, and reading J.J.‘s mindless ramblings, I fucking HATE detroit. Howard, you can suck my balls. “Im not gonna put up with it” he says. So you grab the smallest dude in the league and start pummeling him? Not to mention the other wings players holding our guys back. Like the fight wasn’t one sided enough. What a bunch of pussies. And then to hear the entire city is “backing” him up. As i left the game, i made sure to tell every wings fan “how much they sucked, and i hope they got into an accident on their way home”. Next time we play detroit, i hope one of our players take their skate off, and stabs Howard with it.

by muffin stuffin on Dec 8, 2011 5:33 PM CST reply actions  

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