Blues Trade Erik Johnson and Jay McClement to Colorado for Chris Stewart and Kevin Shattenkirk

Sweet mary titty fucking mother of christ.
Fuck
GADAMNIT

FUCK

…so I’m not saying any more about this one than I’ve already said on the other thread.

B.

but I’d imagine I’d speak for most of us when I say: WE DON’T NEED ANY MORE 2ND LINE SCORERS – WE HAVE THREE LINES OF THEM!

I haven’t looked at the contracts yet, but is there any chance this might be a salary dump? Either for a splash this July or (much more likely) due to the financial fallout of the ownership group?

Chris Stewart can do it all. He is fast, has great hands, and is a bull with the puck. The amount of times I’ve watched him stake down the right side of the ice and power a slap shot past the goalie is ridiculous…. He fights, hits and can be ill tempered. His one knock is that he sometimes takes a game off… he can disappear for an entire game… but if he’s on…. lord have mercy.

- Me

DISLIKE

In the wee hours too, so fans wouldn’t burn the front office down…

WHO’S EXCITED FOR NEXT TUESDAY?

I really wasn’t sure whether this was legit, or if SLGT was messing with me. I literally checked the Blues website to make sure I wasn’t falling for some shenanigans. After said checking. Just wow.

Of all the players I expected might be moved, Damn if I never expected Johnson AND McClement.

That is the best word to describe the state I’m in right now.

I was a little surprised by the Brewer trade, but this? I mean I just can’t believe it. I realize Johnson has been off but jesus quitting on the guy? Put way too much time and hype into the kid to get rid of him I thought. And God I don’t even wanna start talking about how much I hate the fact Silent Jay will no longer be decorated with the Bluenote.

I guess this is management’s way of showing that nobody is safe.

eerily reminds me of lauries bailing…

Chris Stewart isn’t going to murder us anymore.

i cannot wait to see Chris Stewart in the Note. Stewart-Backes-Oshie? fuck yes.

Face it – we needed to shake the shit up. We aren’t losing out. We all knew, but never wanted to admit, that a Dman would have to go in order to get what we need to score. EJ’s development was clearly stunted by his injury, and I don’t mind taking a chance on two guys who have shown much, much upside in the early stage of their careers.

so many feelings right now..

Im way to vulnerable to be alone right now. Someone cute hold me.

whos excited for feb. 22nd against the Avs?

I try to pick a slow news day to put up the story about the changes to the links and ebberbody fucking gets traded!?!?!

I take it back. I’ll do the weekday links until forever! Just undo this, Army!

Nope. Not working. Still want to figure out if there’s something else that can ease the pain.

i call bullshit on halaks “injury”. they just wanted an excuse to play conks so people can see em. guess who’s next on the chopping block?

Well whatever it is I’m pretty sure I am experiencing it.

embrace this change. Playoff Run 2011 – I Believe in Blue

Here’s what the YouTubes has to comfort us in regards to Chris Stewart:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHnxGCOp34w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwTOputfoA

WE WEREN’T LISTENING

can we still buy tickets for the 22nd? how does the rescheduled thing work?

shut your whore mouthhhhhhhhhhhhh

this was supposed to be a reply to spartacus, obviously. haha

Stewart is getting 2.8 average over the next season. He’ll be an RFA after the 2011-2012 season.

Shattenkirk is getting 1.3 mil through the end of 2012-13 season

We needed strong puck possession forwards and some size. I kept saying we lacked a true first liner but I just didnt realize how we were going to go about getting one. I saw us get pushed around a bit this year and although EJ had size he wasnt a fighter. On this team I can honestly say I think Perron/Backes/Stewart are all potential first line players you can win playoff rounds with. Stewart is a tough dude and he can play the corners as well as score which is what we really lacked. As a whole EJ was expendable thanks to junland/Cole/Nikitin/Shatner Kirk so we were able to roll the dice and try to become a more balanced team. If Stewart develops as we hope then this could be a fair trade but right now im still in shock.

I wake up to messages from friends on facebook about this and I didn’t believe them!

But…shit…it’s true….

Lou Korac

Just got a text from Erik Johnson. Said, “All a shock.” Hope to get comments from him Saturday. Not ready to talk now, which is understandable. #stlblues

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I guess it’s fire sale time, Colorado comes out way ahead in this deal, imo. Have fun at the bottom this year. No idea why your leadership would make this trade.

I just read this and almost pissed myself……Well….glad I didn’t get EJ on my new jersey…..Pretty certain Petro gets the honors this summer when I get the cash for it……

“Happy Birthday”

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Will-the-St-Louis-Blues-regret-trading-Erik-Joh;_ylt=Av4dhJpEZExSsEnxX7zFIpZivLYF?urn=nhl-323663

At first I wasn’t happy, but the truth is—at this point—EJ isn’t a star, just a ball of potential. If he lives up to the potential, the Blues lose this trade, if he doesn’t, they win.

I was a little disappointed that this year Stewart only has 10 goals against teams not called the Blues. Hopefully, the lack of production just a result of his injuries and not an indication that he can only score on the Blues.

but i’m sleeping with a NTC under my pillow.

just in case.

a conditional 1st for a conditional 2nd? Does Army want to get the good end of a deal or, why even try? Feels like they’re blowin up the rebuild they’ve been sellin us, how are the Blues faithfull supposed to buy their next line of bullshit now? I like to think I’m a pretty optimistic person, but… WTF is going on?!?

it was a swap of D’s and an upgrade in offense.
blues got what they needed.

Gotta replace “My Big Johnson” somehow.

which means no access to cell service, and I miss these tweets?!?! Holy fuck. I’m excited.

I’m shocked I’m in the minority on this. The Blues traded a 4th-line center (who I love) and a D-man who probably had to be traded for another high-level defender and a potential first-line player. I kinda like it.

In my limited time watching Stewart, dude knows how to score. He immediately becomes the Blues best offensive player under 25. He had 28 goals last year and has 13 in 36 games. Isn’t this what we’ve all wanted/needed? A first line of McDonald on the left, McDonald at center and Stew on the right is pretty appealing to me.

As for EJ, well he was the sacrificial player. I’ve thought for a while that a kid needed to be dealt because they had too much power in the organization. EJ made the most sense. He development was stalled, he was given the A this year and his play went backwards. Pietrangelo stepped in and replaced him as the franchise d-man. It happens. EJ got us a first-line winger and that’s not bad. Oh and this Shattenkirk kid has better numbers as a rookie. That’s pretty good, too.

It sucks losing Silent Jay, but hes a replacable cog. He was, let’s face it, terrible this year. The PK was awful and he wasn’t winning as many faceoffs. The fact that the Blues got some value out of him is pretty impressive.

As bad as the Brewer deal is/was, I have to say this is a good move.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2011/02/19/late-night-shocker-the-breakdown-of-avs-blues-blockbuster/6537/

i just woke up from a nightmare. I dreamed we traded EJ. Oh, wait, what?

on brewer being resigned now that EJ is out ala tkachuk style trade

So I was thinking.
Perron-Backes-Stewart
Steen-?-Oshie
Crombeen-Dags-Sobot
Insert Fourth line here.

That question mark there. Berglund, McDonald, Boyes. We have 3 spare players and one spot there. Which one of those 3 will get the ax next?

stewart is a goddamn bull. and he scored 28 goals his second year in the league. What’d EJ do his second year in the league? literally nothing.

jay mcclement IS a good defensive forward, sure. but i’d like to point out that before jay mcclement was jay mcclement, ryan johnson was jay mcclement. guys like that (who win faceoffs and play good defense but don’t contribute to the offense) are replaceable and manufacturable.

and as a bonus, we get captain kirk, who is a year younger than EJ and was a 14th overall pick himself. and has better stats than EJ this year.

the blues have ALWAYS needed a first-line winger who can score. we have one now. since the lockout, we’ve had a plethora of defensive talent. we’ve used that to acquire offensive talent — and potentially haven’t even diluted the defensive talent at all.

i think the most key issue here is EJ’s confidence problems. dude could be a boyes — 60 points one year, 15 points the next. i think you’re seeing that this year — after 39 last year, he’s fallen off significantly.

fine. assholes.

but excited to have ej’s size. question, does anyone recall ej using his size like pronger?

I had to get up and let the dog out.
I shouldn’t have turned on the computer while waiting.
I guess I’m done sleeping.
Gotta catch up on if this is good or bad.

I need a hockey text chat with an outside unbiased source! ARG!!!

and thinking more about this trade.

I think this is okay actually -we get much needed offense. Giving up on EJ is a wrench but one that isn’t as painful as I thought – mainly because Petro has overtaken him and we get Shattenkirk.

So. Who’s next?

is that hopefully it will serve as a wakeup call to players who want to remain a blue.

I kind of like it. There’s no way we were going to be able to keep all of our defensive talent, and we needed some goals. The knee-jerk reaction is “OMG OUR #1 PICK IS GONE! WE GOT HOSED!” but 18 hours ago, people were shouting “EJ was a waste of a first overall!! Petro’s already better!” I don’t see losing Silent Jay as being a huge loss, but around here, I’m in the minority about that.

It sounds like Captain Kirk has some substantial offensive upside, and a Backes/Stewart tandem sounds awesome. If EJ develops the way we were all hoping he would, maybe we lose the trade. But if he doesn’t, I’d say it a good deal.

Bottom line: we used a surplus to fill in a gap. It’s a shocker of a trade, but I could see it working out well for both sides.

I’m still picking my jaw up off the floor.

I dunno…. DK and I were speculating that the Brewer trade was Army throwing in the towel…. this, this is just adding about a dozen exclamation points to that. It’s going to be so damn WEIRD to see EJ and Jay in Avs unis….

whoa.

My first impression when I saw this was WOW, we got a good deal (not counting draft picks).
My second impression is still the same. Both teams got players still developing, all around the same age, all first round/second round picks.
I think the EJ/Shattenkirk is a draw. While I love Jay it comes down to him for Stewart and I’d take that trade any day.
An interesting note—3 of the players’ wikis have been updated already as now playing for the other teams. Erik Johnson doesn’t have a wiki other than just his name and the team isn’t changed. Take that for whatever.

No number 6 on the Avs so EJ keeps that number I assume
Brandon Yip is #18 so Jay will be changing or negotiating
Stewart was #25 that number is available
Shattenkirk #8 is good to go also.

The players have been removed from the rosters online but not yet added to their new teams

EVER. Crazy, crazy, crazy trade.

told a work colleague on Friday morning that the Blues “will probably be quiet until the offseason” …boy do I feel stupid.

I’m actually pretty excited that we’re making trades to help the team – and that we have a GM who is not afraid to make moves and upset the applecart a bit.

I’m going to try to get an hour or so sleep in before having to head to son’s’s (that would be 2 sons and 2 soccer games) and then I have to work until 5.
I will try to keep up a bit at work but we’ll be short handed today. Another trade coming up??
Hold down the fort. Catch y’all tonight or later this morning.

The Avs got a steal….haha, I was willing to give EJ more time but I’m not in Blues mgmt…..Its sad to see Jay go but he hasn’t been himself this year I think. At least we got good returns on this one though.

hide the children and the beer!

I do not appreciate that Chris Stewart and David Backes are on the same team. At all. It’s like if Vancouver added Jarome Iginla to Ryan Kesler, except diluted a little.

There are multiple ways this trade could shake out – if Johnson improves then the Avs win the trade, but if he doesn’t, Blues win by a mile.

time Junland has kicked himself for running to Sweden.
He could’ve played the entire year with the big team considering all the injuries.
It’ll be curious to see if he comes to training camp and will he be looked at differently now.
Or, do the Blues just cut bait.

yea we figured out you are not playing that well.

we do not care how long you have been here

what is on the back of your jersey

what is on the front

what photos you think you have

you know are required to play better than we expect you too

However reading through the comments have calmed me somewhat. This truly looks like as trade that a lot of people on both sides aren’t happy with and with those kind of trades we won’t know who got fucked till a lot further down the line.

This is not a fire sale! This is a huge shakeup!

I’m trying to stay cautiously optimistic

22-24 year olds still full of potential never get traded like this
This could be a ‘remember when’ type of trade. This team got this guy, for that guy’ talk in 10 years from now
Who knows who won this deal but it is as close to a blockbuster kind of trade without superstars as you’ll get.
Plus both teams trading big name players the same day in other trades (Brewer and Anderson), just WOW

Chris Stewart will wear #25 (McRae will get a new number) and Shattenkirk will wear #12.

I am really excited for the game tonight.

Want to see our new boys.

we got a great young forward and a another good young defender. I never really saw anything special in Eric Johnson. The only bad thing is we are now giving up on this season, but we probably were not going to make it anyways.

I will never, EVER turn my phone on silent while I sleep again. I woke up to a phone call, babbling texts, and a google chat message from a friend who is an Avs fan. He’s gobsmacked, and so am I. I don’t think they’re happy about losing Stewart AT ALL.

I’m actually kind of thrilled about that part of the trade. Not only does it streamline my following of the Stewart Bros (and Joe gave me a killer tag for my site – “The Official Site Of The Stewart Parents”), but it also gives the Blues scoring punch coupled with a player that no one wants to play against – and that we’ll never have to play against again.

The EJ part surprises me. I do think that the accident hurt his development a bit and he’s been under-playing, but we just re-signed him to some huge contract, so it seemed like we had faith in taking time for his development. Upshot is that STL saves a ton of dough in getting a younger 1st rounder who still has 2 years left in an entry level contract. Also, the Blues get a scoring D man who actually has been scoring.

I think that the Blues got the better end of this deal depending on the development of Johnson. If he continues to stall out, and Shattenkirk keeps playing the way that he has been, STL wins. If not, well, there’re always decent D men on the market, right?

At least the forwards’ll be impossible to play against.

Just think of Shattenkirk and Pietrangelo on the points, plus Chris Stewart in between the circles on the powerplay.

Here’s the deal though that I didn’t realize.

Chris Stewart has 30 points this year….and i thought, that’s not any different than Dag’s….he must have fallen off big time from last season. Then, I looked closer…36 games played…Ah HA!

Stewart is close to a pt/game. To me, he is similar to David Backes with not as much power, but a Stewart is a better sniper. Fair assessment?

McRae and Strachan have been recalled from Peoria.

………………WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We haven’t had a consistent 30-goal scorer since Walt in the early 2000’s. In fact, our only 30-goal scorers since Walt are Brad Boyes and David Backes, and Backes is the only one of those two who seems to have the potential to keep that kind of production up. We have a deep d-line and a franchise goalie now—we need to score goals if we’re ever going to make the playoffs.

Shattenkirk might not have the long-term upside of EJ, but at the moment he’s producing better. He has the second-most goals among rookie defensemen.

Losing Silent Jay hurts, but I think ultimately with physicality and hustle from Backes, Stewart and Oshie, we’ll still be able to cope on defense.

I like the trade. There, I said it.

i am a firm believer that a trade must be rated the day it happens. Army has the same crystal ball I have. So is ej going to get a norris? is he going to get an injury? neither matter when this trade happened which is today. The only thing that can change our initial reaction is finding out something nexst year that army knew yesterday.

so i just want ot make the following observations

1) the best blue we traded so far is Silent J. wait a sec now, I’m not trolling so hear me out. Eric has had a spotty Blues career, and his play this season not withstanding, this trade affected his Blues career for a maximum of 21 games. While Captain Roboto may be better skilled and more sought after, I honestly believe you would be hardpressed to win a debate choosing the Roboto side of a discussion. Eric was a lot of potential with a flash of hope followed by general dissapointment. Perhaps it is not Eric’s fault and of the three, let us be honest, he is the only one with any shot at the hall of fame, and he has to become a man, then a hockey player before he gets there. I believe when you acknowledge that the greatest Blue we lost to date was Silent Jay, things might seem brighter.

2) i asked for this. I said it was time for the ownership to keep promises. This isn’t promses kept yet, but it does appear to be an attempt to stop breaking some of the promises. The ownership is the ownership. Like an injury to a key player, it is not an excuse nor is it reason to demand less than a win. IF this group is planning to make a solid positive effort this off-season, these deals make even more sense

3) i can’t rate the brewer trade. I don’t have the information. I suspect a lot of backs were patted and a lot of winks exchanged and a lot of media phrases culled from the archives, but i think we could have gotten more for Brewer. Yet i do not know that it is so. I also know there were risks in trying to get more. Flat out the worse ever trade was Esa Tikkanen one. I mean what is more obvious than this: 1995-Nov-01 Traded from St. Louis Blues to New Jersey Devils for round 3 pick in the 1997 draft 1995-Nov-23 Traded from New Jersey Devils to Vancouver Canucks for round 2 pick in the 1996 draft. Two weeks and the Devils got an earlier round pick in an earlier draft. sheesh guys SHOP YOUR PLAYERS. I do know Brewer had to be traded if the management decided this was not a season to risk anything on an incredible longshot playoff spot at the deadline. I may not share that view but the way the team has performed i certainly understand it. they did what they had to do. In the past this was not always the case. If i had to cast a vote today i’d grudingly give the trade a c+

4) the ej and silent j. The blues and davidson all along claimed drafting d would allow then, even FORCE them, to trade a top d-man for a team need. they just did so. I can now let them b-a-p draft for the rest of my life. I can assume this team can convert 1 position into another effectively. I can see they already agree with most of us. EJ, while solid and valuable and potentially much much more, is the second best d-man we have on this team going forward. For the actual trade, the actual intent, and the assumed continuation of long term and short term plans, I’ve little choice but to give the trade a b+ even before i see the puck drop on the deal. and if i wake up tomorrow with the giddy hangover of a blues win i’d probably feel optimistic enough to rate it an a-

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Armstrong, damn dude. I’m still in shock.