Jake Allen makes "Hockey's Future" Top 50 Prospects list...

by Tomorrows Blues on Mar 31, 2011 2:47 PM CDT

...at number 42.

LINK here.

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by Donut King on Mar 31, 2011 11:29 PM CDT reply actions

It feels weird to me to call an AHL player a prospect.

I always figured a prospect to be someone in college or major juniors or below. Then again, it’s not like the NHL has as heavily-developed of a farm system as Major League baseball.

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by Paperwork Ninja on Mar 31, 2011 11:48 PM CDT reply actions

Anyone who's not a regular in the NHL, and is 25 or less, is a prospect at ''Hockey's Future.''

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by Tomorrows Blues on Apr 1, 2011 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions

I was wondering what their criteria was for considering someone as a prospect.

Now it makes sense.

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by Paperwork Ninja on Apr 1, 2011 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions

Minor-leaguers below a certain age have to be considered prospects, too...

Just like baseball. The guys at Memphis are, for the most part, Cardinals’ prospects. No doubt they have a few career AAA guys in the lineup, but most of the players there are going to get at least a cup of coffee with the Redbirds at some point.

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by Tomorrows Blues on Apr 1, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions

If the writers at HF go by this list...

…there should be three more Blues’ prospects in the Top 50:

LINK to story at “HF.”

I’m guessing Shattenkirk is there because he’s a “true” rookie getting his first pro experience this year, unlike Pietrangelo who is being hosed by the “rules” for RotY eligibility. Strange how before this season no one had ever heard of the “two years returned to junior = not eligible for Calder” rule.

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by Tomorrows Blues on Apr 1, 2011 9:38 AM CDT reply actions

historical perspective always nice

check out iss’s 2008 fianl listing to see what the scouts know

hint: alex p was 5th

and past its experation date, this is iss not only renking, but reviewing the 2004 gods of the prospect world.

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by Childhood Trauma on Apr 1, 2011 1:39 PM CDT reply actions

The 2004 ranking is about half-and-half...

Half hits, half misses. I’m pretty sure that compares favorably with anyone else’s take on the 2004 draft.

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by Tomorrows Blues on Apr 1, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions

yep

but it was iss not hockeys future. again being a top prospect is good. but even being the best of the best, evaluated by the best, its something of a crap shoot to actually become the player others expected you to become. alex p and erik j were obviously tops on most pre and post draft ranking. they both still need to prove it.

so the standard question applies. is iss and/or hockey future wrong half the time, or did teams screw up between the draft and the nhl? or both? how high was the highest oshie ranking, anyone know?

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by Childhood Trauma on Apr 1, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Not sure of Oshie's pre-draft ranking...

…but I honestly don’t recall seeing him listed as a potential first-round pick anywhere. Not ISS, not Hockey’s Future, not McKeens, not The Hockey News.

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by Tomorrows Blues on Apr 1, 2011 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Same deal with 2008...

Six of their top seven are legitmate NHLers three years removed from the draft, plus there’s Tyler Myers, John Carlson and Jordan Eberle, along with a host of pretty solid prospects (Hodgson, Grachev, del Zotto, etc.). I’d say that this listing is pretty much a win.

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by Tomorrows Blues on Apr 1, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions