Bishop v. Elliott: Why the best backup should go to Peoria
Jake Allen has already been sent to Peoria. Brian Elliott has played two preseason games; Ben Bishop will play his second on Tuesday. Jaroslav Halak is the starter and will use the last two preseason games as his tune-up matches. Clearly, the battle for the backup position has gotten down to the nitty and /or the gritty. Both guys are players in their mid-20's (Bishop, 24; Elliott, 26), both are on one-year, two-way contracts. Elliott has played 142 NHL games and is looking to re-establish his reputation in this league. Bishop has played only 13 NHL games and is looking to stake his claim to the beginning of a legitimate NHL career.
In their first preseason games, Elliott and Bishop had comparable numbers as they earned wins. In his second game, Elliott gave up three goals and took the loss. But even if he clearly outplays Elliott in his last preseason game, will Bishop get his shot at the NHL this year, or is he going to Peoria?
In my opinion, Bishop should go to Peoria, even if he is the better goalie of the two.
While the two guys each are on one-year deals, they are so for very different reasons. Elliott has one year to play his ass off in the 20-25 games he gets to start and raise his value going into next summer. Hopefully for him, he takes advantage of it, proves to the NHL that he can start games and win, come into games cold and provide a stop to the on-ice bleeding and that he's a good teammate. If he does that, he'll get a nice long-term, one-way contract from some team (likely not the Blues) to be their backup or, if he performs well, a shot to be part of a 1A/1B tandem.
Bishop's one year contract looks to me to be the same as the one-year contract given to forward T.J. Oshie: put up or shut up. Bishop needs to go to Peoria and be put in a situation where he and Jake Allen are pitted against each other in a season-long battle to see who is the best goalie. Which one of them can dominate the AHL and stake a claim to the next challenge, which is who can make a run at Jaroslav Halak's position as starter.
If Allen and Bishop battle it out for playing time and both succeed, it will be good for both of them. They have the opportunity to prove to the Blues that they both deserve a spot in the NHL. Imagine if they both react to the challenge positively and the Blues find themselves in a position where they have three NHL-quality goalies in the system.
Very few goaltenders spring into the NHL at age 24 fully formed and ready to start. Let Bishop and Allen get better in the AHL again this year and they and the Blues will benefit in the long run. Add to that a backup in Elliott who is motivated to impress this year in the backup role to ensure a longer and more lucrative NHL career and the answer for this year seems like a no brainer.
It's time to send Bishop to Peoria, even if he is the better goalie.
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I'd still have no problem with Bishop as the big-club backup.
But the way Elliott has performed in the preseason and in the one preseason game I saw him play at, he’s trying to prove that I was stupid for being pissed off at his signing. Good, he should try to play his ass off. He needs to, more than just about anyone at camp.
Just one week until we find out for sure.
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I agree that Elliott will be the backup for this next season
I don’t know if it has much to do with development, though.
Elliott will more than likely stay on the team because he’s the guy with over 100 starts in the NHL. He doesn’t have the best records (the past few seasons have been abysmal for his stats) but then again he was playing for teams that have been pretty bad defensively. Payne and others might think that if given a better team in front of him he’ll perform much better and make this a steal of a deal.
He might just be better suited for backup role anyway, and could do pretty well with reduced games and a focus on making the big saves.
by River City Rumble on Sep 26, 2011 4:35 PM CDT reply actions
As I said on Sunday...
Allen is set to be The Man in goal for Peoria; the Blues apparently still haven’t decided between Elliott and Bishop to back up Halak, but Elliott has gotten two starts to Bishop’s one, so…
If it winds up being Bishop and Allen in goal for Peoria again, one will emerge as the legitimate Goalie Of The Future ® for the Blues, and the other may well end up being trade bait by February. I doubt that the Blues will move Allen unless they get a hell of an offer, but if Bishop can’t firmly establish himself as the heir apparent this season, one has to wonder about his future with the organization.
That makes for an interesting subplot to the season.
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by Tomorrows Blues on Sep 26, 2011 5:28 PM CDT reply actions
Bish doesn't have to clear waivers; Elliott does.
The only way I see Elliott starting the season in Peoria is if the Blues “yo-yo” him through AHL and re-entry waivers. If he were to get through both before the start of the season, the Blues could shuttle Elliott and Bishop back and forth until Elliott had played in ten NHL games (or been on the Blues’ roster for 30 days). At that point, he’d have to go through the waiver process again.
Elliott almost certainly starts the season in St. Louis, and will remain here until he spits the bit. If that happens, nobody else in the league will care about Elliott’s waiver status anyway, and the Blues will then bring up Bishop.
by BleedBlue42 on Sep 26, 2011 6:40 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Great point.
I think the more uncomfortable each of these 4 keepers are all season long, the better it will be for the team’s prospects this season.
Either way, it would be great to see each of the backups at each level getting a minimum of 30 starts. Keep everyone fresh, and let everyone know their leash is short.
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by doubleohduke on Sep 26, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
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You never know when Halak’s hand injury will pop up again.
I wouldn’t be suprised if Bish got at least a game or two one way or another.
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But this is a nice write-up. I saw Bishop staying up as the team likes to use their young guys early, and perhaps to let Elliot rebuild his skills in the A, ….but all your points make too much sense.
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Good article Gallagher
Although I’d like love to see all the younger guys play immediately and play well, in the long run it’s probably best for the organization to take their time with these guys.

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