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Wednesdays With Hildy: For What Reasons Is It OK To Beg Out Of The All-Star Game?

I'm not going to lie: I don't care about the All-Star Game. I do enjoy the skills competition, which is the one place shootouts belong, but aside from that I think it's all a bunch of self-promotion for the NHL and a bunch of back-patting for the players. There's no motivating factor to actually play a game. Some folks think that the fun in the ASG is watching a bunch of grown men play shinny. I understand why some might enjoy that, but I enjoy games where the outcome means something. I know people hate the fact that the MLB ASG has it set up where the home field advantage goes to the winning league, but at least it makes the game worth watching.

The All-Star Game, therefore, is a PR and marketing cash-cow for the NHL. Are the players contractually obligated to attend? The league seems to believe so, placing their attendance above the well-being of the player and the player's club. Note the great "old man wants to rest" flap of 2009, where Nicklas Lidström and Pavel Datsyuk were both suspended a game because they elected to skip the Montreal game in favor of resting up nagging injuries. Sidney Crosby that year also had a knee injury and a bruised hand, and was replaced by Martin St. Louis. Sid wasn't suspended, though -- as the league's unofficial poster boy he was all but required to be there to promote the game in the off-ice activities. He looked uncomfortable for multiple reasons, but the league got what they wanted out of him. They apparently wanted his face for off-ice money making than him on-ice 100% for the Penguins to make cash there.

Fair enough. After the flack they got for suspending Lidström (or Lindstrom, as NBCSN would prefer) the league backed off. It's not like there's a shortage of players to replace injured guys. Heck, when that happens sometimes people who actually deserve to be in the game get in there -- witness Kris Letang getting in since Dustin Byfuglien's been out.

Star-divide

Injury is one thing, attitude is another. Alexander Ovechkin was suspended three games for a nasty hit on Matt Niskanen the other night, and then pulled out of the All-Star game despite the fact that he was eligible to go. Why?

"My heart is not there. I suspended, so why I have to go there?" Ovechkin said. "I love the game; it's great event. I'd love to be there, but I'm suspended. I don't want to be a target. I feel I'm not deserving to be there right now. If I suspended, I have to be suspended. That's why I give up my roster [spot].

Aww, his feelings are hurt. He didn't want to be a target? Of what? People pointing out that this is his worst year by far in his career? Was he scared of getting the Phil Kessel Chevy of Shame? Or wait -- perhaps he didn't want to be a target of people constantly pointing out that he has a nasty habit of leaving his feet on big hits.

What's the league's response to a guy presumably picked because he's an uber-star? "Meh." They're not punishing him one bit. Of course, what's the point in punishing a guy whose reaction to the suspension was this:

"I was disappointed, actually. You know, the most bad thing is that, all my career, it’s going to be like that. My game is to play physical; my game is to play hard. I don’t think it was a bad hit, a dirty hit. Yeah, I jumped, but he don’t get hurt, I don’t get two minutes. I don’t think it was a three-game suspension."

So, what say you guys? Is it ok to beg out of an ASG simply because you don't feel like going because of whatever reason? Any league punishment necessary? If there are reasons to not go to the ASG, what would you consider them to be?

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I don't know about Ovechkin.

Maybe it’s the one thing he remembers about sportsmanship: suspended guys don’t play until their sentence is over.

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by Paperwork Ninja on Jan 25, 2012 2:41 PM CST reply actions  

That's why I was surprised to learn he was still eligible to play.

I thought three games was just that.. three games. Guess the press release from the NHL’s Shanaban Dept. of Justice had an asterisk at the end of the sentence announcing Ovechkin’s punishment that nobody noticed.

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by DecaturBluesFan on Jan 25, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

My own feeling is that suspended guys shouldn’t be playing in the All Star game during the period of their suspension. It’s almost like a kid playing interscholastic sports while suspended from school.

Ovi did the wisest thing and bowed out of All Stars. Granted he wasn’t having the best year anyhow. (I will admit to not being totally objective on the subject of the suspension, being an Ovi fan, and being upset that Michalek of the Pens was not suspended for his hit that was worse.)

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by CapsFan75 on Jan 25, 2012 8:49 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

nailed it^

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by ilikeboyes on Jan 25, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

exactly, I was thinking as my Grandmother would say

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by luvhockey on Jan 26, 2012 8:22 AM CST up reply actions  

One things I know...

Is that there are some Blues players that deserve to go that aren’t that would LOVE to be there.

by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 2:51 PM CST reply actions  

Ahhh

starting to speak like Ovechkin!!

by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

yea saw that

doesnt matter that hes not there the only “suffering” i will have is not seeing him in the skills comp the game isnt fun anyways. not hitting or fighting at all, and its an offensive fest no defense nothing the game is boring…they should just find new skills to showcase

going through the handshake line at my game the other night, guy says youre still a prick Evan...me: yep sure am next time stop me from scoring

by DESTROYER on Jan 25, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, I suppose they could combine the Hardest Slapshot Contest with a Gutsiest Shot-Block Contest...

“I bet he’s happy he wore that cage this morning, Bob!”

“He was hit in the groin, Jerry.”

“And his grimace of pain shows those perfectly-protected implants where his real teeth used to be!”

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by Paperwork Ninja on Jan 25, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

should have a goalies

skill contest above the fastest skater

going through the handshake line at my game the other night, guy says youre still a prick Evan...me: yep sure am next time stop me from scoring

by DESTROYER on Jan 25, 2012 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm your Game Time Prospect Department, and I approve of this message...

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by Tomorrows Blues on Jan 25, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I like how you make fun of NBCSN

for spelling Lidstrom’s name wrong…but you can’t even spell it right either haha

Brendan Smith fan

by JeffHancock41 on Jan 25, 2012 6:32 PM CST reply actions  

hahahah

that was a quick fix

Brendan Smith fan

by JeffHancock41 on Jan 25, 2012 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, that's because I was politely notified of my typo by JJ a few minutes ago.

I was writing this fairly quickly and I missed a keystroke. The horror.

Shall I go back and put the umlaut over the “o” in his last name as well?

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by hildymac on Jan 25, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Umlaut added.

When I write, I like to make sure that everything’s spelled correctly, and apparently make sure that all of my "i"s, "o"s, and "u"s are dotted.

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by hildymac on Jan 25, 2012 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

No I know she meant to when she said "Lindstrom"

She spelt his first name wrong. Wrote “Niklas” instead of Nicklas. It’s been fixed.

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by JeffHancock41 on Jan 25, 2012 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh ok

I seriously tried to give you guys the benefit of the doubt. I have been to your site a bunch the last couple days. I get you coming over here to see what is said when your Wings are mentioned. But this post has ABSOLUTELY ZERO to do with you, the Wings, or the city of Detroit. Lidstrom was just a past example of how the rule WAS NOT applied correctly and that he got the shaft.

Now go clip off that excerpt, post it to your board, and have a good chuckle over it. But kindly shut the FUCK UP if you have nothing constructive to add over here.

by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Jesus Christ

Maybe it was a misguided attempt, but I have gone over to the rival site and tried to discuss several hockey related topics that had to do with Wings/Blues issues. I thought they were a friendly enough bunch if you didn’t go name calling.

They espouse their virtues of being above the name calling and petty internet arguments that they say us and SCH have. They are the supreme hockey empire on the planet. They do not have trolls that come over here just to start shit. They say that if you go over there and are reasonable you can stay over there. In other words, their shit don’t stink.

The truth is. There are some good people over there. There are some shit disturbers. There are some trolls. I went over there to have honest discussions about topics like last nights hit on Jackman, The use of “we” and “our” as fans of a club, Elliott and Howard hopefully fighting someday, amongst a couple other things. For the most part it was good talk. But then I get accused of going over there to intentionally start shit. Not by the moderators, mind you.

However, it is perfectly acceptable for them to come over here and post trolling comments. I get where they are coming from when it is about them, or Detroit, or the WIngs. But if they are better than us, why should they care? Why do they have to come in here and nit pick a great writer in Hildy, who, if anything, is one of the most reasonable people here, and make fun of a simple typo?

The reason: they are no better than anybody over here. In fact, some of them are arrogant while doing what they do and some of themtake themselves way too seriously. Like I said, there are good people and assholes, just like on every site in SBN. The only thing that separates us is more cussing here, and more pretentiousness over there. They know that we are a great team and will be for many years. They won’t admit it, but a little part of them is scared we will overtake them.

I just ask that if anybody over there cuts this up to put in your segment or in the blog you take the whole thing so it is in context.

I just had to get that off my chest.

by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 7:02 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

To be fair, I did make fun of a typo of one of their replies on an earlier post.

But thank you for calling me reasonable and a great writer. I try to be level headed… but the great writing part I’m not really sure about. It’s hard to type with debaters in your ears. Gah, children.

Eh, they pay the bills.

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by hildymac on Jan 25, 2012 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

this would be the main

reason why i consider 95% of the wings fans assholes…including the guy that thought appropriate to call me out haha thanks for proving that youre a bag douches wings fans

going through the handshake line at my game the other night, guy says youre still a prick Evan...me: yep sure am next time stop me from scoring

by DESTROYER on Jan 25, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Their fuckin rats

with beeg teeth. Stop rattling their cage and they’ll calm down like a good cheese eater.

Just a chew toy for the hockey gods

by spectr17 on Jan 25, 2012 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

They espouse their virtues of being above the name calling and petty internet arguments

We’ve pulled a lot of shit in the last week, but I’m pretty sure that this isn’t among them.

And be fair, man, you had ONE person say he was tired of you. ONE.

by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 25, 2012 7:35 PM CST up reply actions  

what?
They espouse their virtues of being above the name calling and petty internet arguments

We’ve pulled a lot of shit in the last week, but I’m pretty sure that this isn’t among them.

you serious, bro? are you saying you’ve never said you’re above the petty internet arguments and name calling OR are you saying you’ve never engaged in name calling and internet arguments?

by averagejoe on Jan 25, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m saying I’ve never said I’m above it.

by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 25, 2012 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Not saying you JJ

And I am not talking about you. But your compadres have certainly said as much.

by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 26, 2012 1:24 AM CST up reply actions  

And JJ.. If you are still reading...

I was NOT talking about you. You have been nothing but classy to me, even during our spat over here. But you can’t defend people coming over here and starting shit when it has nothing to do with the Wings.

by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 26, 2012 1:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I won’t try to defend Wings fans coming over here to disturb shit; it’s not my responsibility. They’re going to be who they are. I don’t speak for them any more than they speak for the entire fanbase. In Monday’s game thread, I did tell people that coming over here after that game would be a bad idea and I did say that I would have done the same thing averagejoe did in dropping timeout bans on people if the situations were reversed, but they’re going to do what they do. There are times when we’ll consider doing a ban-for-ban for any of our readers who shit-disturb at other blogs (like we did during last year’s playoffs), but given all the baiting that’s gone on between the two blogs in the last week, that would have been completely inappropriate in this situation.

I’m just not sure I’ve read enough comments at WIIM that would indicate usage of the word “they” would be appropriate when talking about people who put themselves above petty arguments and name-calling.

Either way, I’ve had fun this week.

by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 26, 2012 7:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Fair enough, brotha.

And I may have been wrong about it, but there were plenty of people that would slam SLGT and its people for being trolls and starting shit. I interpreted that as being holier than thou.

But yes, it has been a very entertaining week. Great for the rivalry! See you in a couple months.

by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 26, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Detroit is getting the living shit beat out of them by Montreal. 6-0 in the 2nd.

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by cj2k on Jan 25, 2012 7:56 PM CST reply actions  

It’s now 6-2 with about 8 minutes to go in the last period. I was watching the game and stopped watching it since I got so bored. I was watching it with my Blues colored glasses but still got bored.

I understand Montreal’s announcers were wondering why their team couldn’t do that more often.

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by CapsFan75 on Jan 25, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh im sure. It just ended at 7-2

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by cj2k on Jan 25, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Hopefully this doesn't start a shit storm...

But it seems like the whole Fuck Detroit squad was thinking about their plans for the all star break tonight…that doesn’t really seem like something the distinguished, disciplined and mature Red Wings would do does it? Just asking because i got the overwhelming impression from the Wings fans who decided to drop by for a visit the past few days that the game between our two teams showed that Detroit was all of those things I listed, unequivocally and unwaveringly, and our team showed that we lacked the discipline and maturity that is necessary to perform in important situations. Tonight the Wings lost 7-2 and they were unprepared, they certainly didn’t show their maturity very well as there was little to no response by them as a club. They quit and it didn’t seem to me like they wanted to be there. My point is this; say whatever you want about the effort our team gave the other night. Call it undisciplined and hot-headed and say how we lack the maturity to be a cup contender. But I’ll take passion over complacency any day of the week. Because they’re both contagious. There may be some games where we take dumb penalties and we drop the gloves regardless of a dirty or clean hit on one of our guys. But damn, do I love it! I love seeing our guys stick up for each other. I loved that Stewart deliberately went after the guy who nailed Pietrangelo, because that sent the message that, that’s my teammate and you don’t fuck with him. I loved seeing Berglund being held by someone in that scrum and instead of just goin after him, he was reaching over to rip off Howard’s mask, because he was going after our guys in full gear and that’s bullshit. And the passion this entire team has is for real. Discipline can be taught. Stupid mistakes can be fixed. But good luck fixing complacency. The second you think you’ll be given something and rest on your laurels is the second it’s going to be taken from you. Montreal proved that tonight. I don’t know if this is the year we finally win it all. But I do know that we are going to fight tooth and nail to make that happen. We’re going to leave everything we have on the ice, and that’ll beat not bringin it every single time.

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by SweetActionRay on Jan 25, 2012 11:56 PM CST reply actions  

As a Blues fan...

I think we are giving WAAAAAAYYYYY too much respect to the Red Wings. Who cares about them. Why even acknowledge them? Let’s Go Blues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 26, 2012 1:32 AM CST reply actions  

They seem to get riled up about FUCK DETROIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So why don’t we give them ZERO respect like those assholes deserve and just cheer for our beloved Note? That will really get to them.

by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 26, 2012 1:34 AM CST up reply actions  

And after reading my comments here.

I am waaaaaaaaaaaay too drunk to be posting. Sorry everybody except Wings fans.

by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 26, 2012 1:40 AM CST reply actions  

Alcohol is a wonderful thing.

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by hildymac on Jan 26, 2012 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Late to the party. I give no fuck.

That second sentence explains everything I think about this whole situation.

Just get rid of the ASG, have some kinda super skills competition and call it a day.

I guarantee the only entities involved that really care about this are the people that are picked, the league and the Ottawa CVB.

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by Donut King on Jan 26, 2012 4:20 PM CST reply actions  

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